Eiran Cashin D Brighton b.2001

[Demesne Lad]

Cashin will miss Derby's next two games, because of the concussion protocol.

Paul Warne confirms double Derby County injury blow as duo to miss Watford clash - Derbyshire Live (derbytelegraph.co.uk) (https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-injuries-paul-warne-9501605?int_source=nba)

[MancIrishWolf]

Appears to be adapting to the Championship well with a goal and clean sheet last night in the 4-0 win over Portsmouth.

Flying under the radar for us slightly with our relative abundance of talent in the position, however Brighton’s interest appears to be continuing, which a hamstring injury yesterday might ward off in this window.

Only just 22 and made Captain after 140+ senior appearances with fans gushing with praise lately - certainly worth a closer look in upcoming squads…

https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/42437-e%C3%ADran-cashin/page/3/#comments

[Eirambler]

Was a very good header for his goal. He looks a really decent player, only slight mark against him is that he's an inch or two shorter than our other centre back options. But I don't think he's that short that he can't play international football or anything like that, as long as the rest of his game is good enough.

Derby had some interesting set piece routines last night. Harness played well also.

[Trequartista20]

Canavarro is only 5'9 and is one of the all-time greats.

Can't be that far away from a call-up now.

Obviously a well-run club like Brighton showing interest doesn't happen for no reason, and the fact that he's left-footed plays in his favour, you would think.

[Eirambler]

18 months on form their last attempt, Brighton are reported to be back in for Cashin. Would be a great opportunity for him.

[Colbert Report]

How have we not capped this guy at senior level yet?

[John83]

We've only had a handful of games since he stepped up to Championship football, and we're crowded in his position. I'm sure they're looking at him anyway.

[SkStu]

I'm no authority on him and have only seen him a handful of times but he hasn't ever overly impressed me. He also just seems too short and a bit too stocky for a CB. But if Brighton are in for him, I'm happy to be totally in the wrong!

[Eirambler]

Yeah, I find it interesting that Brighton, of all teams, seem to be repeatedly interested in him. We know their algorithm is good at spotting hidden gems that other teams overlook, similar to what Brentford do, allowing both clubs to punch well above their weight.

But on the face of it I'd love to know what it is about Cashin that has convinced them he's Premier League material. He's a tough, committed, hard working centre back, but he's not the tallest and not the quickest out there by a stretch. There must be something they're seeing that makes him more of interest to them than the likes of Mark McGuinness, Andrew Omobamidele or Dara O'Shea, who have all transferred from Championship clubs in the last couple of years. Presumably Cashin would be less expensive, but he would evidently also need to be better than someone like Omobamidele to get a game at an established EPL club like Brighton.

[Colbert Report]

If Brighton are in for him, especially two years in a row, we're all missing something special. Their scouting track record is too good.

[samhaydenjr]

How have we not capped this guy at senior level yet?

Because John Egan, Shane Duffy, Nathan Collins, Dara O'Shea, Liam Scales, Andrew Omobamidele, Jake O'Brien and Mark McGuinness... and he spent the last two seasons in League One.

Of course if he does go to Brighton and breaks through there, then yes, he becomes an option.

[Eirambler]

He wasn't in the Derby squad last night. Though that could have been for a number of reasons.

Since the last Brighton interest he has signed a new contract with Derby. Maybe there's a release clause in there, but if he hadn't signed it he would be in the last six months of his contract now and in a much stronger position to get his big move. Would have to question his decision to sign that contract if he doesn't get the move this month.

[tetsujin1979]

According to Derby, it was to protect a hamstring injury
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[Demesne Lad]

"Asked about the bid from Brighton and his fitness, Warne said: "He is good. He was walking around baptising kids at half-time. He is coming back from a tendon injury, so the chances of re-injury if he plays three times in a week is 30 to 40 per cent so it wasn't a risk that we were prepared to take. "He has trained today, he will train with the squad on Thursday and he will be included in my thoughts for the weekend [against Cardiff].


"It sounds more exciting if I said I pulled him out of the squad to drive him to Brighton tonight, but that isn't the case. It would be a good headline, but he will be available for the weekend. He is not re-injured or anything like that, it was precautionary." (Paul Warne, manager, 22 Jan).

"....the Rams are adamant that they are not selling the 23-year-old in the January transfer window, DerbyshireLive understands" (Derbyshire Live, 21 Jan).

[tetsujin1979]

He was doing what at half time??

[Demesne Lad]

He was doing what at half time??

I know -- I'm puzzled too. When Carlton Palmer told FLW today that Cashin is "very, very good player", I thought at first that he was referring to Eiran's football skills, but perhaps he was commenting on young Eiran's moral and spiritual values and activities.

[texidub]

Baffling comment from manager... unless it's a comeback/resurrection joke?

[weldoninhio]

Baffling comment from manager... unless it's a comeback/resurrection joke?

Splashing/squirting them with water maybe?? Messing around, keeping involved with the team?

[pineapple stu]

Baptising them into the club?

[seanfhear]

Maybe he has a side-line as a American Style Preacher on the side-line !

Maybe ~ He is a Son of a Preacher Man, like Dusty Springfield sang !

[Eirambler]

After going quiet for a few days, there seems to be reports in Derby that this transfer is back on as they need the cash to get a few players in before the transfer window closes.

[Demesne Lad]

Fee agreed between Derby and Brighton, according to Sky Sports News.

Transfer completed, fee of £9m, according to "sources". (BBC Football, 31 Jan).

[Razors left peg]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DFggaGWIVBn/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Officially signed

[Eirambler]

Would assume that's a transfer record for an uncapped Irish player.

Cashin, Cannon and Jake O'Brien have now transferred for a total of about £45m yet have only five caps between them.

If Cashin starts playing EPL.games he'll presumably come into the Ireland squad, especially given he's a left footer. But how many centre backs can we realistically pick? Collins and O'Shea are certain, O'Brien and Omobamidele are likely to be in if they're playing regular top division football, and then there's Cashin. So that's five and you still have Scales and McGuinness, who both started our last game. And there's also Jimmy Dunne who is in great form as well, that's a lot of centre backs to accommodate. Poor Luke McNally hasn't a hope and it's not looking good for Duffy or Egan either. How's Darragh Lenihan's injury situation these days?

[Rayzor]

Would assume that's a transfer record for an uncapped Irish player.

Cashin, Cannon and Jake O'Brien have now transferred for a total of about £45m yet have only five caps between them.

If Cashin starts playing EPL.games he'll presumably come into the Ireland squad, especially given he's a left footer. But how many centre backs can we realistically pick? Collins and O'Shea are certain, O'Brien and Omobamidele are likely to be in if they're playing regular top division football, and then there's Cashin. So that's five and you still have Scales and McGuinness, who both started our last game. And there's also Jimmy Dunne who is in great form as well, that's a lot of centre backs to accommodate. Poor Luke McNally hasn't a hope and it's not looking good for Duffy or Egan either. How's Darragh Lenihan's injury situation these days?

Dunne has played at right back for the last 18 months and has looked at lot better there than at centre half. Might be worth a look for us there.

[Eirambler]

I think that's probably the only position he's really in contention for. Could Cashin be tried at left back in a flat back four maybe - could be an option against high level opposition in particular? If we do try the Collins stepping into midfield thing again we could be pioneers of the five centre backs on the pitch strategy.

It was good to see Cashin referencing his Ireland ambitions in his first Brighton interview anyway.

[pineapple stu]

If Cashin starts playing EPL.games he'll presumably come into the Ireland squad, especially given he's a left footer. But how many centre backs can we realistically pick? Collins and O'Shea are certain, O'Brien and Omobamidele are likely to be in if they're playing regular top division football, and then there's Cashin. So that's five and you still have Scales and McGuinness, who both started our last game. And there's also Jimmy Dunne who is in great form as well, that's a lot of centre backs to accommodate. Poor Luke McNally hasn't a hope and it's not looking good for Duffy or Egan either. How's Darragh Lenihan's injury situation these days?

If we had problems like that in other positions, we'd be a lot better off!

[seanfhear]

We are almost in Centre-half Nirvana ~ ~ Has it been this good since we could afford to play Paul McGrath in midfield, and some time before that Mark Lawrenson in midfield ? !

[pineapple stu]

It probably has. It's good - but none of the options are playing at a really top level. It's a variety of functional players really. I'd take peak Richie Dunne over any of them for example. Though we have had a lot of functional players there down the years - O'Dea, St Ledger, McShane from our Euro 2012 squad alone.

It's good that we can afford to leave out some functional players - cos we have to start them in other areas.

But for example Scales is the only one playing in Europe - and even then he's lost his place in a side that probably wouldn't get into Europe if they were playing in England.

[seanfhear]

It probably has. It's good - but none of the options are playing at a really top level. It's a variety of functional players really. I'd take peak Richie Dunne over any of them for example. Though we have had a lot of functional players there down the years - O'Dea, St Ledger, McShane from our Euro 2012 squad alone.

It's good that we can afford to leave out some functional players - cos we have to start them in other areas.

But for example Scales is the only one playing in Europe - and even then he's lost his place in a side that probably wouldn't get into Europe if they were playing in England.In fairness it did take Richard Dunne a while to get to his peak level ~ I actually remember some people that I know personally writing him off, in his earlier years ~ I could see something in him, if he got his act together, which he did ~ Thankfully, great to see a young man do so well.

Decent enough centre-backs if they can click as a, pair / three / system that suits them ~ And of course it would be a great bonus, if one of them could do a good job in midfield even if it was only in certain suitable games !

[~YTM~]

Hallgrimsson seems to prefer his RBs to be more defensive and that's probably also out of necessity because our LBs aren't really defenders. Think O'Shea has started at RB in all but one of his starts since Hallgrimsson took over and that was the game the old interim team supposedly had big input in.

Has Cashin ever played LB? O'Shea broke through at RB and played there his first season in the PL with West Brom. Another good advantage he has is recover pace. He doesn't have to always act as a third CB and can push on a little because he's got good recovery pace. So kinda makes sense to use him as a RB.

Could see O'Brien also playing that RB role if he's playing regularly with Everton. Also for a big man he can get those legs moving.

[Eirambler]

If Brighton's first half today is anything to go by Cashin might be getting a run in the team fairly quickly.

[The Fly]

It probably has. It's good - but none of the options are playing at a really top level. It's a variety of functional players really. I'd take peak Richie Dunne over any of them for example. Though we have had a lot of functional players there down the years - O'Dea, St Ledger, McShane from our Euro 2012 squad alone.

It's good that we can afford to leave out some functional players - cos we have to start them in other areas.

But for example Scales is the only one playing in Europe - and even then he's lost his place in a side that probably wouldn't get into Europe if they were playing in England.
I wouldn't choose him over Collins.

Collins has a higher ceiling and is a better player, but you're referring to Dunne at the peak of his powers for us so I get what you mean.

[Eirambler]

I don't think Dunne had the footballing ability the likes of Collins, O'Brien and Omobamidele do. It's difficult to compare between generations because the game has moved on, but if peak Dunne was around today, playing like he was 15 years ago, I don't think most current EPL teams would go for him being honest. There aren't many defenders like him left in the league now.

[pineapple stu]

I wouldn't choose him over Collins.

Collins has a higher ceiling and is a better player, but you're referring to Dunne at the peak of his powers for us so I get what you mean.
Well "peak Richie Dunne" would be Dunne at the peak of his powers alright :)

23-year-old Richie Dunne was quite a terrifyingly ropey defender at times. But the comparison is between our defence now and at any time in the past, so I get to choose peak Honey Monster (around about that Russia game!). Yeah, we've players who are still improving - though not all of them are going to mature into Premier League standard players I think. You just don't know which way things are going to go in the near future.

[Acornvilla]

Hallgrimsson seems to prefer his RBs to be more defensive and that's probably also out of necessity because our LBs aren't really defenders. Think O'Shea has started at RB in all but one of his starts since Hallgrimsson took over and that was the game the old interim team supposedly had big input in.

Has Cashin ever played LB? O'Shea broke through at RB and played there his first season in the PL with West Brom. Another good advantage he has is recover pace. He doesn't have to always act as a third CB and can push on a little because he's got good recovery pace. So kinda makes sense to use him as a RB.

Could see O'Brien also playing that RB role if he's playing regularly with Everton. Also for a big man he can get those legs moving.
Matt Doherty rising from the dead has at least added some competition and a viable option between whether to be conservative with a Centre back, or to play Doc/Festy and be more attacking.

[tetsujin1979]

on the bench for Brighton against Chelsea
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[Eirambler]

On for his Premier League debut, and by the sounds of it to blame for a goal conceded within about three minutes of coming on.