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Thomo
24/06/2005, 10:13 AM
well that is a bit of turn up for thebooks!!

fosterdollar
24/06/2005, 10:20 AM
Shels will have 'em imo

Macy
24/06/2005, 10:23 AM
It's just typical that after years of no fixtures, the first year of the Setanta Cup....

Shels to win handy, with Glens out of season.

drinkfeckarse
24/06/2005, 10:23 AM
Cracking tie, should be full houses at Tolka and the Oval. :cool:

thejollyrodger
24/06/2005, 10:31 AM
shels should fly through and win both games. anything else would be terrible IMO. We have a bigger squad and should be fully fit

jockser
24/06/2005, 10:54 AM
is the first tie on the 12th of july also!!!!???? :eek: :eek:

OwlsFan
24/06/2005, 11:13 AM
shels should fly through and win both games. anything else would be terrible IMO. We have a bigger squad and should be fully fit

Based upon the Setanta results I wouldn't be too confident of that.

Darco Ooragnak
24/06/2005, 12:15 PM
is the first tie on the 12th of july also!!!!???? :eek: :eek:

I`d say it will be moved to the 13th....

Troy.McClure
24/06/2005, 12:20 PM
Based upon the Setanta results I wouldn't be too confident of that.

Ya but the IL will be out of season and Shels might get their arses out of this slump they are in. Shels record against IL teams was W1 D1 L1 with that loss in their current slump. I'd go for a Shels win overall, but not by much.

superfrank
24/06/2005, 12:33 PM
Do you think it'll be on the telly?

Gerrit
24/06/2005, 12:40 PM
As I said in the topic on the European draws: very unattractive tie for me personally as I was hoping for a real travel, but on the field it should work out fine. Though in our current shape and with hardly any self confidence on the field, Glens certainly will feel like they have a chance. Will be a close tie. I'd be gutted if we go out with only a travel as far as Belfast this season...

mypost
25/06/2005, 2:58 AM
Cracking tie, should be full houses at Tolka and the Oval. :cool:

Knowing Shels, they'll play their home game at Lansdowne again. It's Shels' home ground in Europe. :( :D

thejollyrodger
25/06/2005, 8:14 AM
not for the first round they wont. There isnt enough intrest IMO. 2nd round in Tolka as well. Third round is a different story

Gerrit
25/06/2005, 7:35 PM
I look forward to the trip to Romania, and hopefully we get a good pay-day in the third round and a nice UEFA Cup bonus. Going out vs Glens without a serious travel would be a huge disappointment... Best possible draw for the third round would be Everton or Rangers probably, $ $ $ (how come Rangers are not directly qualified for the CL anyway ?!)

jorge
25/06/2005, 9:49 PM
I very much doubt it Shells will get through to the third round but they will ease through to the second though.

Plastic Paddy
26/06/2005, 5:42 AM
Best possible draw for the third round would be Everton or Rangers probably, $ $ $ (how come Rangers are not directly qualified for the CL anyway ?!)

Because whilst Celtic have been qualifying on a regular basis for CL football in recent years, Rankers and the other jokers in Scotland keep getting knocked out at the first time of asking (Aberdeen vs Bohs anyone? :rolleyes: ). Hence a low co-efficient. Hence the SPL teams having to pre-qualify.

And Gerrit, I can only presume that you're joking about Rankers being one of the best possible third round draws for Shels. Can you imagine the mayhem that would be unleashed with some of their "finest" being let loose in Dublin? Think again...

:ball: PP

big p from owc
26/06/2005, 10:01 AM
the glens are a decent team but given shels recent good results in euro competition i would have to fancy them to go through. + as the game will be played on either the 12th or the 13th of july half the glens team will probably be nursing hangovers. :D that said , the glens are a resiliant bunch and should not be underestimated .

i grew up on the lisburn road close to windsor park & followed the blues as a kid but i dont really follow local football these days "except for my beloved norn iron" but i really hope these two ties can project football north & south in a really positive light , despite the scenes at the oval a month or two ago irish league football "iam told" has come on a lot in terms of peoples attitudes & as long as the games are remembered for the football then everybody is a winner .

Gerrit
26/06/2005, 5:14 PM
Well said.


@ Plastic Paddy: my mistake, I did not think of security issues and was just thinking "Rangers: big support ---> $$$ for Shels"
You're right, probably this would not be the best draw.

But even as a Celtic fan, you should call the club as it is, Rangers and not Rankers. It could stir up the whole Glaswegian issue where unfortunately politics are involved, and we've seen recently what it leads to... Besides, if the rest of the SPL are 'joke sides', why did one of those jokers win the league then ? ;)

Plastic Paddy
26/06/2005, 5:27 PM
even as a Celtic fan, you should call the club as it is, Rangers and not Rankers. It could stir up the whole Glaswegian issue where unfortunately politics are involved, and we've seen recently what it leads to... Besides, if the rest of the SPL are 'joke sides', why did one of those jokers win the league then ? ;)

You spot my weakness. I'd love to claim it as a speeling mishtook but what it does is unleash my - ahem - bigotry where Rangers and more crucially some of their "fans" are concerned. My issue. :o

Some of the Glens fans on this board, and you yourself Gerrit, occasionally put me to shame. My misfortune. :(

To Big P, Stanley Chan and even Lux Interior ;) - as the famous quote goes, "I may not agree with what you say but I defend your right to say it". Please post again hereabouts by all means. You're all very welcome.

:ball: PP

Gerrit
26/06/2005, 5:38 PM
No need to shame there, PP, I mean, football is emotions so it's not unnormal that a Celtic fan has certain issues with Rangers. Just pointing it out saying we had some bad debates recently because of the Glaswegian derby, and that we may need some extra carefulness to avoid it happening again.

anto eile
26/06/2005, 6:24 PM
And Gerrit, I can only presume that you're joking about Rankers being one of the best possible third round draws for Shels. Can you imagine the mayhem that would be unleashed with some of their "finest" being let loose in Dublin? Think again...


surely you mean birkenhead ;)

anto eile
26/06/2005, 6:25 PM
Well said.


@ Plastic Paddy: my mistake, I did not think of security issues and was just thinking "Rangers: big support ---> $$$ for Shels"
You're right, probably this would not be the best draw.

But even as a Celtic fan, you should call the club as it is, Rangers and not Rankers. It could stir up the whole Glaswegian issue where unfortunately politics are involved, and we've seen recently what it leads to... Besides, if the rest of the SPL are 'joke sides', why did one of those jokers win the league then ? ;)
calling ranger rankers is no different than calling bohs by their own real name- the gypos. its a football slag.nothing poiltical surely


for the record , best of luck to glentoran-i hope you do irish football proud :D

Plastic Paddy
26/06/2005, 8:04 PM
calling ranger rankers is no different than calling bohs by their own real name- the gypos. its a football slag.nothing poiltical surely

for the record , best of luck to glentoran-i hope you do irish football proud :D

On point 1, you'll have seen my response to Gerrit. Enough said.

On point 2, likewise. I hope for two great adverts for Irish football that give Shels the springboard to their first-ever visit to the Champions League. And if Shels don't do it, well, I hope that the Glens do. :)

:ball: PP

big p from owc
27/06/2005, 8:59 AM
You spot my weakness. I'd love to claim it as a speeling mishtook but what it does is unleash my - ahem - bigotry where Rangers and more crucially some of their "fans" are concerned. My issue. :o


i hope you are still not smarting from the last day of the season PP :p

a few punters in north belfast are still a bit miffed , "talk about bad losers" :rolleyes:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,1494997,00.html

Plastic Paddy
27/06/2005, 9:34 AM
A wee bit of sunshine and no football for the last few weeks make life a little easier to bear, Big P. :)

On Ardoyne's finest, neds are neds are neds. "We" have them and "you" have them. That fact does not excuse the behaviour of the idiots mentioned in MacDonald's article, of course. Someone needs to remind these idiots that it's only a game. But then, for some, any excuse will do for a scrap and noising up the neighbours. :mad:

Thanks for the link, btw. I'd not read that piece before. Food for thought. :)

:ball: PP

Gerrit
27/06/2005, 9:40 PM
On point 1, you'll have seen my response to Gerrit. Enough said.

On point 2, likewise. I hope for two great adverts for Irish football that give Shels the springboard to their first-ever visit to the Champions League. And if Shels don't do it, well, I hope that the Glens do. :)

:ball: PP

Getting into the UEFA Cup would be a big success, and that goes for both Glens and Shels. Let's not get too much dreaming away...