Andrew Omobamidele D Strasbourg (loan from Notts Forest) b.2002

[tetsujin1979]

First goal since August 2022
1747712872979779848

[seanfhear]

Will Forest get a points deduction for financial mis-dealings ? ! Probably, I reckon.

[Olé Olé]

https://www.forestforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/andrew-omobamidele.51092/page-15

Forest fans, by and large, are very happy with his performance last night. Let's hope he gets a run Saturday away to Brentford.

Someone noted that is a loan out the window. He has now played for two clubs this season. Can't play for a third?

[Jolly Red Giant]

Someone noted that is a loan out the window. He has now played for two clubs this season. Can't play for a third?
He's 21 - so he might be exempt from that rule.

[pineapple stu]

Someone noted that is a loan out the window. He has now played for two clubs this season. Can't play for a third?
Yep. Let's hope that goal was worth it. Forest have treated him very strangely so far; you wouldn't be surprised to see him back on the bench for a while

[zero]

starts today at brenford. a first league start for forest?

[tetsujin1979]

Yeah, it is
Nice stat about it actually
1748761593175740497

[Eirambler]

Won't be getting a clean sheet on his debut unfortunately. US keeper Matt Turner must not be a Trump supporter with those wall building skills, shocking goalkeeping.

[seanfhear]

Won't be getting a clean sheet on his debut unfortunately. US keeper Matt Turner must not be a Trump supporter with those wall building skills, shocking goalkeeping.A lot is built on good walls.

[Eirambler]

3-2 in a game involving two Irish centre backs probably not the ideal scoreline here...

[SkStu]

Been watching it since about the 20th minute and they’ve both actually done pretty well.

[Eirambler]

Yes they were both OK, I think it was Collins clearance header that was returned with interest for the first Forest goal and Maupay turned Omobamidele for the Brentford winner, but they were both very good pieces of attacking play more than they were defensive mistakes.

[Stuttgart88]

Both did well overall I think but yes, Omobamidele got rolled too easily by Maupay. He went to the ball instead of anticipating the turn. I'd say that's ring rustiness.

[SkStu]

Both did well overall I think but yes, Omobamidele got rolled too easily by Maupay. He went to the ball instead of anticipating the turn. I'd say that's ring rustiness.

I'd probably agree - but it really was a beautiful turn and finish from Maupay.

[MancIrishWolf]

Getting a lot of plaudits on the forest forum for his recent performances. Great to see him taking his opportunity. Bodes well with him, Collins and O’Shea gaining top flight experience at such relatively young ages - could have the best part of a decade together as our back three if they keep fit… https://www.forestforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/andrew-omobamidele.51092/page-21

[Jolly Red Giant]

Getting a lot of plaudits on the forest forum for his recent performances. Great to see him taking his opportunity. Bodes well with him, Collins and O’Shea gaining top flight experience at such relatively young ages - could have the best part of a decade together as our back three if they keep fit… https://www.forestforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/andrew-omobamidele.51092/page-21
Omobamidele is a good footballer and still has a lot of unfulfilled potential. He was PL standard a couple of years ago before his bad injury - the time of injury that can take some time to get back to where he was before it happened. The more he plays the better he will get and if Forest get relegated (a possibility) then he will be back in the PL over the summer.

I still think that, because of the shortage of midfielders, either himself or Collins should be moved into midfield - we have several good CBs coming through.

[Stuttgart88]

Seems to be playing well?

[third policeman]

Omobamidele is a good footballer and still has a lot of unfulfilled potential. He was PL standard a couple of years ago before his bad injury - the time of injury that can take some time to get back to where he was before it happened. The more he plays the better he will get and if Forest get relegated (a possibility) then he will be back in the PL over the summer.

I still think that, because of the shortage of midfielders, either himself or Collins should be moved into midfield - we have several good CBs coming through.

I think he’s better equipped to play midfield than Collins. People have said that this is a nonstarter because he hasn’t played there at club level, but McGrath and Lawrenson had never played there for their clubs either. The more recent example of a defender playing as a DM without prior experience would be Gomez at Liverpool. Similar attributes to Andy - mobile, technically proficient and good positional sense. Of course all the above had more experience before being switched, but he has the right profile and skill set to do a job in a position where we are definitely short of options.

[Razors left peg]

We seem obsessed with getting defenders into midfield, how about just hoping they develop their games as defenders

[Diggs246]

We seem obsessed with getting defenders into midfield, how about just hoping they develop their games as defenders

There is a very good reason for that obsession tbf. We have decent players in all sections of the pitch but we are very vulnerable in the middle.
Collins and or Andy O should be looked at in the middle, not because we want to, but we kind of have too. Josh Cullen needs a good footballer beside him. Collins and Andy O might not work but we know the others aren't working. If we do nothing, then our only hope is a natural midfield player landing on our lap and that seems unlikely at the moment.

As the other posters have said it's worked before.

[Razors left peg]

If you want an converted defender, who is physically imposing, good on the ball, has and eye for goal and is actually playing in midfield for his club... boy are you going to be excited when you find out about Bosun Lawal :)

[ontheotherhand]

I love the idea of trying the lads in centre mid....but we aren't really all that well off at centre half at the moment! Who is actually fit and in form? O'Shea and Scales? You'd be playing Collins regardless of club form probably or would Omobamidele be in ahead of him?

Would love to see if Lawal could do a job. He looks to have all the ingredients we THINK Collins could have if he changed roles - good ball carrier, strong physical presence, goal threat, passing range. At least that's how his highlight reel looks!

[JR89]

I love the idea of trying the lads in centre mid....but we aren't really all that well off at centre half at the moment! Who is actually fit and in form? O'Shea and Scales? You'd be playing Collins regardless of club form probably or would Omobamidele be in ahead of him?

Would love to see if Lawal could do a job. He looks to have all the ingredients we THINK Collins could have if he changed roles - good ball carrier, strong physical presence, goal threat, passing range. At least that's how his highlight reel looks!

Not according to Celtic fans is Scales in form. Getting a lot of negativity from fans on the Celtic forum about his current form.

[Razors left peg]

Not according to Celtic fans is Scales in form. Getting a lot of negativity from fans on the Celtic forum about his current form.

If you weren't an Ireland fan and read this forum you'd think we've never had a player in form ever!

[ontheotherhand]

Not according to Celtic fans is Scales in form. Getting a lot of negativity from fans on the Celtic forum about his current form.

Had a read there. You're spot on.

Thought he was good while I was watching the other day and a Celtic season ticket holder friend really rates him but that's grim reading. That said, certain sections of their fanbase have had the knives out for him for a long time and they are a fairly nervy bunch at the minute!

[Stuttgart88]

I've been watching him and he's been fine. He's not the physical warrior type of CB that fans like. He made some key blocks in the last two live TV games and won a lot in the air on Sunday. Distribution is generally good. I think Celtic fans associate him with slow laboured possession football because he does seem to have the ball at his feet a lot. I think he's missing Hatate who early season was giving him a central midfield outball all the time whereas now his passes are predictable wide passes that don't add much to things. I think if Celtic were winning more regularly he'd be better appreciated. I don't think their careless defeats and draws lately can be attributed to him. Some fans were calling for Nawrocki to return but he's been very careless when in the team. Welsh did a lot better imho.

[ontheotherhand]

I've been watching him and he's been fine. He's not the physical warrior type of CB that fans like. He made some key blocks in the last two live TV games and won a lot in the air on Sunday. Distribution is generally good. I think Celtic fans associate him with slow laboured possession football because he does seem to have the ball at his feet a lot. I think he's missing Hatate who early season was giving him a central midfield outball all the time whereas now his passes are predictable wide passes that don't add much to things. I think if Celtic were winning more regularly he'd be better appreciated. I don't think their careless defeats and draws lately can be attributed to him. Some fans were calling for Nawrocki to return but he's been very careless when in the team. Welsh did a lot better imho.


I asked a season ticket holder friend if Scales was getting justified flak and he said - "Celtic fans are fannys". Not quite the level of analysis you've given there Stutts but a similar sentiment.

[Razors left peg]

Celtic fans, especially online, are idiots who think they should be getting players from Barcelona and not the LOI. Some will never take to Scales because hes not a big enough name. All you have to do is see the reaction to Idah when he signed, when Celtic have always had a good record of signing lads from lower divisions and having them do well.

[Jd2793]

scales is a bit limited though. there is a reason he was on the fringes under "ange". with oshea, collins and omobamidele we're well stacked there. he's probably a 5th choice at cb.

[Razors left peg]

scales is a bit limited though. there is a reason he was on the fringes under "ange". with oshea, collins and omobamidele we're well stacked there. he's probably a 5th choice at cb.

Disagree completely. Theres not many things I give Rogers credit for this season but bringing in Scales is one of them. Just because the previous manager didnt see it doesnt mean he isnt good enough. Hes also a left sided centerback that the others you listed arent. I like all those 3 but I wouldnt say right now any of them are doing enough to say there are guaranteed ahead of Scales. I do think there is good competition for places though

[Eirambler]

There is a very good reason for that obsession tbf. We have decent players in all sections of the pitch but we are very vulnerable in the middle.
Collins and or Andy O should be looked at in the middle, not because we want to, but we kind of have too. Josh Cullen needs a good footballer beside him. Collins and Andy O might not work but we know the others aren't working. If we do nothing, then our only hope is a natural midfield player landing on our lap and that seems unlikely at the moment.

As the other posters have said it's worked before.



Personally I'd rather throw an early call up in the direction of a Lawal or an Adeeko rather than start shoe-horning out and out centre backs into midfield. Playing centre backs at full back against stronger teams I can get behind, but if we're planning on playing out from the back any bit at all, centre backs in centre mid isn't going to work, the role is too different to what they're trained to do.

[liamoo11]

Personally I'd rather throw an early call up in the direction of a Lawal or an Adeeko rather than start shoe-horning out and out centre backs into midfield. Playing centre backs at full back against stronger teams I can get behind, but if we're planning on playing out from the back any bit at all, centre backs in centre mid isn't going to work, the role is too different to what they're trained to do.

To be fair to lawal he was a midfielder when he was at Watford and was been highly regarded and praised by was it troy deeney? Celric seemed to then transition him into centrehalf

[Eirambler]

Yes, Deeney thought he was amazing. From what I've heard in Glasgow I don't think he has the concentration levels to ever be a top level centre back. Hopefully this run at Fleetwood signals the end of the centre back experiment for him now.

[seanfhear]

Yes, Deeney thought he was amazing. From what I've heard in Glasgow I don't think he has the concentration levels to ever be a top level centre back. Hopefully this run at Fleetwood signals the end of the centre back experiment for him now.
So ~ Midfielders can be day-dreamers (wink)

[JR89]

Yes, Deeney thought he was amazing. From what I've heard in Glasgow I don't think he has the concentration levels to ever be a top level centre back. Hopefully this run at Fleetwood signals the end of the centre back experiment for him now.

It should signal the end of it in an Irish shirt at least.

[samhaydenjr]

I love the idea of trying the lads in centre mid....but we aren't really all that well off at centre half at the moment! Who is actually fit and in form? O'Shea and Scales? You'd be playing Collins regardless of club form probably or would Omobamidele be in ahead of him?

Would love to see if Lawal could do a job. He looks to have all the ingredients we THINK Collins could have if he changed roles - good ball carrier, strong physical presence, goal threat, passing range. At least that's how his highlight reel looks!

Jake O'Brien

[Eirambler]

Omobamidele also. I wouldn't say O'Shea has been out of form, just playing in a struggling team. Collins is the only one who is out of form really.

[ontheotherhand]

Jake O'Brien

Worth a look for sure.

Could have quite a few new or newish faces in the next squad if the interim team is brave.

[Exgrad]

With all the moves and talks of moves for our centre backs (O'Brien and likely McGuinness and O'Shea) where does Omobamidele fit in? Had a quick look and looks like hes been on bench for most of the pre season friendlies, did he get injured at end of last season? A player who really could do with a run of games.

[pineapple stu]

I think we've enough reasonable options that if you're not getting your game for a long period of time, that's grounds to not be in the squad tbh. He was rusty v New Zealand and cost us a goal and the win for example

[ifk101]

... and cost us a goal and the win for example

He did?

[pineapple stu]

Yep - in the 1-1 draw where he was badly at fault for their equaliser?

[ifk101]

Yep - in the 1-1 draw where he was badly at fault for their equaliser?

Look again. You can point the finger at least four others for the goal (hint - McClean, Molumby, Duffy, Doherty). But you chose to single one player out. Odd.

[pineapple stu]

But you chose to single one player out. Odd.
Oh for God's sake, not this conspiratorial nonsense again. I thought he may as well not have been on the pitch for it; was ghosted past and wasn't chasing back when beaten either.

He's not getting his game for most of the past year, we have other options, I don't think he should be in the squad until that changes. That's the sum of my position (in response to the original, quite reasonable, discussion question posed)

Do you agree/disagree?

[JR89]

1727075175387329014

Said goal for anyone that's curious.

[Razors left peg]

1727075175387329014

Said goal for anyone that's curious.

I just watched that 5 times and I can only say that anyone that is solely focusing on Omobamidele and saying he cost us that goal is being incredibly disingenuous.

Omobamidele pointed to the #9 and told (I think?) Duffy to cover him. He seen the 10 drop into the space in front of defense and followed him having checked there was cover in behind. They yes he made a weak tackle (McCleans attempt was worse), but there was still plenty of cover behind.

I think this does highlight perfectly an agenda.

[CraftyToePoke]

I think this does highlight perfectly an agenda.

There are a number of posters who have observed this now, both on here & privately about this posters attitude towards say Kelleher & Bazunu. Omobamidele and all the others today. Obafemi & Parrott or Keane. It's a growing group who are uncomfortable with it.

[pineapple stu]

What on earth are you on about Crafty? A growing group of people are uncomfortable - with what? "All the others today" - eh? Obafemi or Parrott or Keane?

I'd reply to your post if I could work out what it was you were trying to say.

Omobamidele was one of those called out in the match thread for being poor and going backwards. He's not getting his game at club level and others are (at a not dissimilar level); do you not think it's unreasonable to suggest he doesn't deserve his place in the squad right now?

[tetsujin1979]

1727075175387329014

Said goal for anyone that's curious.
The comments in the match thread are interesting too
https://foot.ie/threads/288432-Republic-of-Ireland-v-New-Zealand-Tuesday-21st-November-2023-Friendly

[SkStu]

What on earth are you on about Crafty? A growing group of people are uncomfortable - with what? "All the others today" - eh? Obafemi or Parrott or Keane?

I'd reply to your post if I could work out what it was you were trying to say.

Omobamidele was one of those called out in the match thread for being poor and going backwards. He's not getting his game at club level and others are (at a not dissimilar level); do you not think it's unreasonable to suggest he doesn't deserve his place in the squad right now?

Look, I am not saying any of the following is legit but I think what is being suggested by some of the recent posts is that you are unduly harsh in your assessment of black Irish players, compared to others, to a point where it is worth tabling. Its been suggested to me offline. I'm not going to entertain it but you should know so you can respond.