Micheal jackson

[ccfcgirl]

Is found not guilty of all charges.

[pete]

I think this would only have been a bih news story if he was found guilty.

Biggest waste of money since yanks invented pen that writes upside down.

:rolleyes:

[M@ttitude]

Nooooo... I wanted to get rid of him..

[superfrank]

Ridiculous. It's obvious he did something to that kid. :mad:

[dancinpants]

Unbelievable :mad:

[tiktok]

Ridiculous. It's obvious he did something to that kid. :mad:

.....not to the jury, and that's all that counts

[strangeirish]

I guess the big hand wasn't on the little hand at bedtime afterall :D

[Closed Account 2]

OJ Jackson... he didnt do it coz he got the best lawyer. Hard to believe that not-guilty-on-all-counts verdict given he openly admitted to sleeping with children. Im sure Mladic and Karazdic would go to the Hague if they could get that jury.

[dancinpants]

OJ Jackson... he didnt do it coz he got the best lawyer. Hard to believe that not-guilty-on-all-counts verdict given he openly admitted to sleeping with children. Im sure Mladic and Karazdic would go to the Hague if they could get that jury.

I was thinkin' the same thing. Maybe Saddam will request that his hearing be moved to California.

[Anto McC]

I don't care weather he did it or not,I f*cking hate him and all the media coverage he gets and 20 years in jail wouldn't have been long enough for the f*cker :mad: This has for some reason got me seriously p*ssed off.It's all about money in the end

anyway he should have been locked up years ago for crimes against music.

[tiktok]

I'd expect his civil suit against Martin Bashir to kick off first thing tomorrow

[pete]

OJ Jackson... he didnt do it coz he got the best lawyer.


Sure didn't the prosecution spend a fortune trying to convict him too? I doubt anyone here is sad enough to have followed the case enough to give reliable judgement on verdict.

If I was a Californian tax payer i;d be annoyed so much spend on case that seems to have gone on for 2-3 months.

Slightly off topic but i must say some of those Jacko supporters are complete nutters.

:eek:

[Poor Student]

All I'll say is your duty as a memeber of the jury is to only vote guilty if the evidence proves beyond all reasonable doubt that the accused is guilty of the said offence. Jackson had a top lawyer who showed up the credibility of the other side's witnesses. If their credibilitiy is shaken then the evidence is questionable. If the evidence is questionable then you cannot say beyond reasonable doubt. Therefore you should probably vote not guilty. I know you can argue that the good money buys you the lawyer who can shake the credibility of anyone and that's a problem but that's where the jury would be coming from assuming you don't believe they were bribed or something underhanded.

[sligoman]

I don't care weather he did it or not,I f*cking hate him and all the media coverage he gets and 20 years in jail wouldn't have been long enough for the f*cker :mad: This has for some reason got me seriously p*ssed off.It's all about money in the end

Innocent until proven guilty and he was'nt proven guilty so get over it :rolleyes:

[anto eile]

1: I doubt anyone here is sad enough to have followed the case enough to give reliable judgement on verdict.

2: If I was a Californian tax payer i;d be annoyed so much spend on case that seems to have gone on for 2-3 months.

3: Slightly off topic but i must say some of those Jacko supporters are complete nutters.

:eek:

1: very true
2: true
3: true


noticed a big ireland cardboard flag been held up outside the courtroom-"ireland believes you"

[strangeirish]

noticed a big ireland cardboard flag been held up outside the courtroom-"ireland believes you"

Clown :mad:

[Anto McC]

Innocent until proven guilty and he was'nt proven guilty so get over it :rolleyes:

I believe he's innocent(in regards to this trial) but as i said i hate the ****er and wish he would just **** off to Thailand with Gary Glitter and the rest of those scumbags

[Drumcondra Red]

The freakshow had other peoples kids in his bedroom, in my eyes, whether he does anything more or not, this is unacceptable behaviour and he should be locked away for the rest of his life, the other prisoners will sort him out with a decent punishment!

[Gareth]

Firstly, I have not got all the facts presented to the jury and I am not in the business of understanding the law but I feel it unfortunate that so much time and press is spent on a case of a child star who grew up into a carnival act and who clearly has phsycological problems rather than focusing on all the many many other cases of child abuse that takes place. The family involved seemed like the manipulating type, and probably so was the Michael Jackson camp, so if Jackson indeed abused kids, its unfortunate that such a media money grabbing family got it to court first.

The fans outside the court also seem to have logic suspended in their very odd heads. Quitting your job and releasing doves on a verdict of a case of child abuse for a man you claim is innocent cos you love his music is utterly utterly insane.

Its a sad case of a sad disturbed man and his clearly suspect acts in his big playground house. He is a product of the Worlds horrible need to worship people not able to deal with the focus placed on them. We love them so we can eventually decide to hate them.

[RedX]

I think its great news the guy got off...Micheal Jackson is a strange guy and there is no doubt about that..he never had a childhood and this is a big bearing on the way he acts in life befriending young children especially..but unless any of you lads on here are phsycoligists give it a break..he is an extremely wealthy man and this is also a serious reason for stitching him up..i am glad he is not guilty because i honestly do not think he is..

[Risteard]

Only the jury know enough to pass a decision.
I don't know why people feel they have to adapt some sort of a stance on these things whether it be innocent or guilty.
The jury are the only ones to have seen all the evidence.

[hamish]

He should be found guilty of......crimes against music

and as for his self indulgent videos argh :eek:

Now I see breaking news and ALLEGATIONS of the same thing against Georgie Best.

Is the world gone mad??? :confused:

[dcfcsteve]

noticed a big ireland cardboard flag been held up outside the courtroom-"ireland believes you"

Whilst they were waiting for Wacko to get to the Santa Monica courtroom so the verdict could be announced, Sky News had quite a long interview with one of the fans there, who I would put money on as having a Derry accent. Didn't give his name or show his face though - probably at his own request.... :D

Jackson will end up paying for all of this one way or the other though. His credibility in the music business is shot now, and he may well have to sell Neverland and/or the Beatles back catalogue to cover his costs, given that he was broke before the trial began anyway....

[Frank Blue]

I think its great news the guy got off...Micheal Jackson is a strange guy and there is no doubt about that..he never had a childhood and this is a big bearing on the way he acts in life befriending young children especially..but unless any of you lads on here are phsycoligists give it a break..he is an extremely wealthy man and this is also a serious reason for stitching him up..i am glad he is not guilty because i honestly do not think he is..

He sleeps with boys. The parents of these children are well aware of this and permit him to do so. The whole thing is a sick joke.

As someone said earlier, his fans are nutters.

And I hope he never puts out another record.

[Macy]

Never liked his music particularly, never brought it and probably never will. He's obviously a freak and a bit weird.

However, he was found innocent by a jury of his peers, and that's good enough for me.

You'd have to wonder about the Public Prosecutor - I mean how many more dubious cases can the bitter man take against Jackson?

[Frank Blue]

Never liked his music particularly, never brought it and probably never will. He's obviously a freak and a bit weird.

However, he was found innocent by a jury of his peers, and that's good enough for me.

You'd have to wonder about the Public Prosecutor - I mean how many more dubious cases can the bitter man take against Jackson?

He's a sick individual, that is for sure. He sleeps with children (boys) who aren't his own. That is very worrying and he should seek help.

[Gareth]

Read he is in 250 million dollars worth of debt. Thats a whole lot of cd sales!! Anyways lets hopefully leave this story here and hope its a long time before another "media trial" begins.

[Macy]

He's a sick individual, that is for sure. He sleeps with children (boys) who aren't his own. That is very worrying and he should seek help.
That in itself isn't a crime, however it may be viewed.

For those childrens sake, I'd be more concerned about them living with parents that would let them share a bed with grown man in those circumstances. Don't see any prosecutions for neglect...

[Macy]

hope its a long time before another "media trial" begins.
Sure it's already started, with that KKK Kunt....

[Frank Blue]

Read he is in 250 million dollars worth of debt. Thats a whole lot of cd sales!! Anyways lets hopefully leave this story here and hope its a long time before another "media trial" begins.

:eek:
Never knew that. More problems coming his way as you said:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Entertainment&article=UPI-1-20050506-00210800-bc-us-jackson-finances.xml

Fox News reports that the Bank of America has sold Jackson's loans, which total $270 million, to Fortress Investment Group, a New York-based private hedge fund. The collateral for the loans includes Mijac, which owns Jackson's song catalog, and his 50 percent stake in Sony/ATV Music Publishing, which owns the Beatles' catalog.

Jackson's lavish lifestyle, including the Neverland Ranch, and legal expenses have left him with little cash. He has been staying afloat with loans.
:eek: :eek: :eek:

[CollegeTillIDie]

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation two facts remain:-

1/ The jury were unable to convict him BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT

2/ It doesn't matter that he has been found innocent because he has been ruined either way.

[hamish]

After the verdict, one irate lawyer called him a "teflon abuser" on one of the US News Channels.

[Gareth]

Why do lawyers care, they can go home and swim in the pool of cash they make off the back of all these trials. The only winners.....

[the 12 th man]

You'd have to wonder about the Public Prosecutor - I mean how many more dubious cases can the bitter man take against Jackson?

that would be tom sneddon.......himself and mj go way back.
he still seethes over the outcome of his previous efforts to "nail" mj on other "settled out of court" issues.

my own opinion is he (mj) has massive self esteem problems.

[drummerboy]

The first juror to speak to the media after the verdict, said he thought Jackson had molested at least one of the boys but felt the case against him wasn't presented properly.

The man has acted in an unacceptable manner. He should not be allowed bring children to his bedroom, EVEN WITH THEIR PARENTS CONCENT.

[drinkfeckarse]

Jackson has put himself into this mess with the way he leads his life. He has been found not guilty though so people should accept that.

While I think that his behaviour in inviting children to sleep in his bed is disgraceful, I am willing to accept that he maybe thought it was a "loving" thing to do.

The thing that galls me though and has made me question all these allegations is the fact that these so called victims ( Chandler, Arviso and 1 or 2 more ) have accepted money. This calls any allegations into serious doubt.

Any parents on this board will know what I mean when I say that if I was in that situation as a Dad, I'd want him hanged never mind jailed if he'd done something to my son.

All the money in the world wouldn't change that and any parent in their right mind would NEVER accept money instead of justice.

[pete]

Had Sky News on last night & as they dedicated what seemed like a whole hour of the news bulletin to Wacko they had Breaking NewsFlash at bottom of the screen "Earthquake in Chile..." then followed by "George Best arrested/released..." type headline. :rolleyes:

Should a station have to actually display news to call itself a news station?

[Gerrit]

I am glad he's off the hook, never believed the story. But most of all because the strict law was followed: innocent till proven guilty. So this is the only right decision, as there were never concrete proves.

An ex bodyguard at Neverland declared to have seen "Michael Jackson performing oral sex on a 10 year old boy". I wonder what happened with this testimony? Eye witnesses are usually taken serious, so it must be that this person was not seen as a trustworthy person ?! Of course, an ex bodyguard is the most likely person to be approached for a false testimony...

[shedite]

Let's distinguish something here - Micheal Jackson is a weirdo coz he lives in a theme park, got lots of plastic surgery and goes to court in pyjamas - GUILTY!

However, those who heard all the evidence are the only ones who can comment on the statement that Michael Jackson likes little boys - NOT GULTY!

If you allow your 10-year-old boy to saty the night at a 40-year-old man's house, you're crazy! Hence, if you go to court, and look for millions, your sanity and parental skills really are out the window.

Personal opinion - if the familys had gone to court to prove MJ guilty, he probably would have been. The amount of money they were looking for though, made their claim look stupid from the start.

[anto eile]

He sleeps with boys. The parents of these children are well aware of this and permit him to do so. The whole thing is a sick joke.

As someone said earlier, his fans are nutters.

And I hope he never puts out another record.
i reckon a lot of the parents allow their kids to go to neverland in the hope that jackson does something to give them a reason to sue for abuse.

[anto eile]

:eek:
Never knew that. More problems coming his way as you said:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Entertainment&article=UPI-1-20050506-00210800-bc-us-jackson-finances.xml

Fox News reports that the Bank of America has sold Jackson's loans, which total $270 million, to Fortress Investment Group, a New York-based private hedge fund. The collateral for the loans includes Mijac, which owns Jackson's song catalog, and his 50 percent stake in Sony/ATV Music Publishing, which owns the Beatles' catalog.

Jackson's lavish lifestyle, including the Neverland Ranch, and legal expenses have left him with little cash. He has been staying afloat with loans.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Entertainment&article=UPI-1-20050609-13393400-bc-us-jackson-finances.xml

hes asset rich however.apparently has $500M worth of assets.including 50% of the rights to 200,000 songs.hes got enough assets to live in luxury for the rest of his life,if he chose to be sensible with his money

[Lionel Ritchie]

Am neither happy nor annoyed he got off ...sorry -was found innocent.

He's undergone due process and has come out the other end of it with the right to his good name.
I'm a bit alarmed at the number of people I've seen or heard react "he's guilty as sin but bought himself an innocent verdict".

The fact is we have a system and a society that judges it a better thing to set free a person who may be guilty rather than risk punishing someone who may be innocent. I think our society is richer, better, more mature and more decent for the fact we do that.

that's why I don't like to see people effectively "cherry picking" their convictions and aquitals. it happened after OJ Simpson too. For better or worse OJ walked and that has to be respected but wasn't. TV shows that wanted to bring him on after the trial had other scheduled guests cancelling and refusing to appear on the same platform as him which begs the question -what was the point of having a trial at all? -if people are just going to make up their own minds he's guilty and ignore the courts we put in place to decide these things.

I do hope however that maybe the judge told Michael Jackson or told his councel to tell him that if he's ever up before him again on a charge involving being over familiar with other peoples children that a very dim view will be taken of it.

Person who I believe stands most vindicated in all this is Jarvis Cocker -who pointed out after invading a stage during Jacksons "performance" at an awards ceremony that the guy thinks he's Jesus, Santa Claus and Barney all rolled into one and he needed to be brought down a peg or two.

Oh yeah and by the wat Conor74 -Smooth Criminal sucks dokey balls too -(though the donkey was probably a consenting adult rather than a drugged minor ;) )

[patsh]

The first juror to speak to the media after the verdict, said he thought Jackson had molested at least one of the boys but felt the case against him wasn't presented properly.
If this is true, it doesn't say very much for the integrity of the jury.
If at least one of them thought that a crime had been committed against a child, on the evidence presented to them, they had a duty to ensure that they stood up and were counted and made that known.

I accept the verdict, MJ is innocent of all charges, but cannot understand this kind of attitude.
The juror was influenced more by presentation than what he believed????

ANYBODY who in any way interferes with children have lost all rights as a human being and deserve to suffer for it. Unfortunately, I have some small knowledge of children who have been abused in some way, and cannot accept any tolerance of this, while also realising that there are cases which can destroy innocent people, such as almost happened with Dave Jones that football manager.
It beggars belief that this juror acted in this manner.

[Macy]

As I interpreted it off the radio was that he thought that MJ had molested kids/or a different kid in the past, but didn't believe he had in this case. Probably one of the others that had been called as a Witness - however that didn't prove any of the charges that were brought before the jury.

Not about presentation, but about which kid and what charges. Bad presentation by Drummerboy :)

[JoeSemi]

A question that has to be asked following this trial is whether MJ is a capable father? To see his kids dressed as they are in public is inappropriate and can they themselves ever live happily with a father who is undoubtedly messed up? I presume there aren't many people privy to what happens between him and his children and if they are is there much they could do?

[Macy]

A question that has to be asked following this trial is whether MJ is a capable father? To see his kids dressed as they are in public is inappropriate and can they themselves ever live happily with a father who is undoubtedly messed up? I presume there aren't many people privy to what happens between him and his children and if they are is there much they could do?
He was found innocent. Fook knows what people would've wanted done if it had been a guilty verdict on any of the charges!

[Gerrit]

Let's distinguish something here - Micheal Jackson is a weirdo coz he lives in a theme park, got lots of plastic surgery and goes to court in pyjamas - GUILTY!

However, those who heard all the evidence are the only ones who can comment on the statement that Michael Jackson likes little boys - NOT GULTY!

If you allow your 10-year-old boy to saty the night at a 40-year-old man's house, you're crazy! Hence, if you go to court, and look for millions, your sanity and parental skills really are out the window.

- according to Jackson he got 2 plastic surgery operations, the rest would be non-surgical, and his pale skin would be caused by a disease and not by surgery (don't know if I can honestly believe that though :eek: )

- "if a parent sends a kid to a 40 year old man they're crazy" may be very true but is no statement at all that Jackson would be guilty. Unless we believe that guard who claims to have seen him giving head to a minor (and the jury decided that person was not trustworthy at all), we have not even a proof that he slept in the same bed.

[Frank Blue]

He was found innocent. Fook knows what people would've wanted done if it had been a guilty verdict on any of the charges!

Had he been black, he would be guilty and there would have been a lynch mob. :D