John Joe Patrick Finn M Reims b.2003

[Diggs246]

The sad thing is we now have to competitively cap him 4 times before we can relax. ( terrible rule )

[Exgrad]

https://twitter.com/noriordan/status/1354927479539064834?s=20

Kenny says he has made an approach to him. They did a presentation to him and his mother and are waiting for him to make a decision.

My personal opinion is that this seems to be a proper professional approach that wouldnt have happened with previous managers. We are all aware how little communication previous managers seem to have with prospective players. The ball is in Finns court now and if he choses not to play for us thats fine, but at least we know we went about it the right way.

A lesson in how to engage with a multi qualified young player, and how important to have the senior manager involved (just like England did with Rice and Grealish). There's no doubt previous managers felt it was beneath them, and grudgingly went along with it when media pressure was cranked up. This will be more and more important as time goes on. Add to this the fact Okoflex and Odebeko have been brought back into the fold. I don't know if Kenny will make a success of the Ireland managers job but he's bringing an approach that should be engrained into the set up, in terms of the professionalism and modern approach to situations like this.

[Diggs246]

Sorry no need to be negative. This is much needed great news

[Olé Olé]

That really is a fantastic bit of news by all accounts!

It is great. He obviously had opportunities with other national sides but given that neither of his parents are Spanish and given the strength of the Spanish underage squads, we always were in with a shout. Jon Walters often speaks about his pride in representing the country of his mother's birth given that she died at a young age - like John Joe's father. It's a great story- And there will be plenty in Mayo that will let you know that if he does make it to the senior squad!

[jbyrne]

A lesson in how to engage with a multi qualified young player, and how important to have the senior manager involved (just like England did with Rice and Grealish). There's no doubt previous managers felt it was beneath them, and grudgingly went along with it when media pressure was cranked up. This will be more and more important as time goes on. Add to this the fact Okoflex and Odebeko have been brought back into the fold. I don't know if Kenny will make a success of the Ireland managers job but he's bringing an approach that should be engrained into the set up, in terms of the professionalism and modern approach to situations like this.

declan rice was in a number of our senior squads..... cant get much better engagement than that really.
grealish also played for a number of our underage squads and I am sure there was engagement with senior squad staff at the time as a result. just because it didn't hit the headlines doesnt mean it didnt happen...

[Exgrad]

declan rice was in a number of our senior squads..... cant get much better engagement than that really.
grealish also played for a number of our underage squads and I am sure there was engagement with senior squad staff at the time as a result. just because it didn't hit the headlines doesnt mean it didnt happen...

Yeah, the problem was Rice was in the senior squad and the engagement may have been what put him off...as for Grealish, who knows, just that whatever the approach was it didn't work. Thankfully that seems to be in the past now.

[pineapple stu]

It's probably easier for Finn to commit to a call-up given how far away he is from being tied down to us. There's going to be more testing of waters and people jumping ship in future I think. And the way the rules have evolved makes sense in fairness.

So yeah, this is good news, but until he (a) is a decent player and (b) is tied down to us, I don't think it's a huge development as yet.

[elatedscum]

It feels very unusual that there are 3 very talented young irish players born in Spain coming through right now (John Joe Patrick Finn, Anselmo Garcia McNulty, Caden McLoughlin).

Can’t imagine there’s been another country outside Britain where we’ve had multiple players. Obviously, right now or recently, there are examples of lads born in Germany, France, USA, Australia, Belgium, Luxembourg but generally just one lad in a generation. Unusual anyway...

[Trequartista20]

Excellent news if true, and a much needed pick-up in these difficult times.

[John83]

... Anselmo Garcia McNulty...
That is hands down the greatest name of all time.

[seanfhear]

A long way to go yet. Many’s the slip between Lip and Cup !

[John83]

Did you reverse the order of lip and cup deliberately? It's a rhyming couplet normally, I think.

[seanfhear]

Did you reverse the order of lip and cup deliberately? It's a rhyming couplet normally, I think.
I was trying out a new saying ( to me ) and Blew It ! !

[pineapple stu]

Is Seanfhear actually just a million monkeys with a million typewriters?

[seanfhear]

≈
Is Seanfhear actually just a million monkeys with a million typewriters?

I hope that you are comparing my work to Shakespeare’s !

[tetsujin1979]

Named on the bench for the first time this season today against Atletico Madrid
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[tetsujin1979]

Hasn't been involved with the Getafe first team since before Christmas, but has been playing regularly for their B team in the Tercera División, the fifth level of football in Spain
Scored on Sunday, goal below at 48:30
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Is he tall? Because he looks taller than every player that comes over to congratulate him on the finish

[seanfhear]

Hasn't been involved with the Getafe first team since before Christmas, but has been playing regularly for their B team in the Tercera División, the fifth level of football in Spain
Scored on Sunday, goal below at 48:30
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Is he tall? Because he looks taller than every player that comes over to congratulate him on the finish
Are you counting his big hair ?

[Razors left peg]

I think I seen before that hes 6ft 4

[tetsujin1979]

Named on the bench for Getafe's season opener against Atletico Madrid
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[liamoo11]

Named on the bench for Getafe's season opener against Atletico Madrid
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That's fantastic. It's been hard to get a sense of his level after last season seemingly not pushing on from the few appearances the season before

[Eirambler]

Feels like this lad has been on the "potentially Irish" scene for a couple of years now and I still have no idea either whether he's any good or whether he actually genuinely wants to play for Ireland.

[John83]

Feels like this lad has been on the "potentially Irish" scene for a couple of years now and I still have no idea either whether he's any good or whether he actually genuinely wants to play for Ireland.
Heck, I only just removed the question mark from his year of birth in the thread title. He's a riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped.

He does, however, have a couple of U19s caps for us he earned last year, which seems to go some way towards answering that last bit.

[tetsujin1979]

Didn't make it off the bench, but it's good to see him involved in the first team already this season.
Strangely enough, Getafe are playing on Monday again in the next round of fixtures

[tetsujin1979]

Finn was involved a bit in Getafe's preseason, including a start against Granada, but not in the squad for their season opener against Barcelona tonight. He's still 19, and they are the defending champions, so probably fair enough.

[liamoo11]

It's impressive that gilsenan and finn have actually progressed this far in the game. When those stories were out 10 years ago of an Irish child at barca and another at real it seemed a real long shot we would ever see either play professionally

[tetsujin1979]

Named in Getafe's travelling squad for tonight's game against Athletic Bilbao. Given there's 23 in the squad, and they named 12 substitutes at the weekend against Sociedad, it's highly likely that he makes the bench later
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cxp3yhGCzea

[tetsujin1979]

Named as a sub. Game is kicking off at six, and is on Viaplay.
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[tetsujin1979]

Sub again today at home against Villareal, who had a man sent off at 23m. 0-0 at half time
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[tetsujin1979]

Has been an unused sub for Getafe's senior team recently, and is in the starting XI for their Copa del Rey tie this evening
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First senior appearance since January 2021, still only 20

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Scored the opener after 6 minutes

[pineapple stu]

12-0 win in the end. Opposition were Spanish sixth tier - and Spain is regionalised from the third tier down. There's 27 divisions above that side. Sort of tenth tier in England

Still, a goal's a goal.

[tetsujin1979]

Nice that he got his first senior goal
He's been an unused sub for a few games recently, hope he can get into the team this weekend
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[DCWA]

Nice stadium for a club at that level!

[pineapple stu]

They had to move to Huesca's ground, who were in La Liga as recently as 2021, because their own ground wasn't up to the competition requirements.

[tetsujin1979]

Any Spanish speakers on the forum?
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[elatedscum]

Any Spanish speakers on the forum?
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Spanish is my 4th or 5th language but basically this...

We are giving the cup the importance it deserves and as the boss has already said, we have to go out and compete in every game and that is what we have done today.


Yes, well, it has been a question of trust from the coaching staff and my teammates and they have told me to be brave, to dare to play as I do and that's what happened.


Yes, yes, it is always the goal - to work hard, every day in the gym, where the gaffer sends me all the time <99% sure that's what he means> - and to enjoy most of all these minutes (on the pitch).


Thank you very much to all the fans who have come with a tremendous enthusiasm since we left from Atocha (Madrid train station) and thanks to everyone

[ColourfulPeanut]

I wonder how his English is. Have we ever had a non-native English speaker capped at senior level?

[pineapple stu]

Apart from Louth people you mean?

I think a lot of football coaching is taken in English these days; easier for squads with lots of different nationalities. Could be completely wrong on that though

[elatedscum]

I wonder how his English is. Have we ever had a non-native English speaker capped at senior level?

Sean McDermott was called up but never capped. Native speaker is an interesting concept, it's likely that Chio Ogbene only started learning English when he arrived here at age 7/8.

There's been plenty of 21s, ex-21s in recent years. Many would have expected Conor Noss or Ryan Johansson to be there. Apart from Finn, Garcia McNulty is another 21s eligible player who you'd think will get senior caps. We were chasing Paul Nebel and I think he was close to switching before Germany made a big effort to keep him. The 19s had Caden McLoughlin in their last squad. The 17s had Aaron Ochoa Moloney and William Martin in their last squad and Ramon Martos is with the 16s next week.

There were also some french born lads, Noah Jauny and Tom Gaston, Matteo Egan born in Italy.

[tetsujin1979]

Sent off for Getafe's B team today, for two yellow cards
Second yellow was for a dive just inside the box, at 1:36:00 below
Getafe were leading 1-0, so it was completely pointless
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Not sure if red cards for the B team carry into the senior side, but if he played today he was unlikely to be involved in their game tomorrow, against Cadiz, anyway

[tetsujin1979]

Made his return to the Getafe senior team this evening as a late sub in a 0-0 draw against Real Sociedad
Still only 20, he's 21 in a few weeks.
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[liamoo11]

Made his return to the Getafe senior team this evening as a late sub in a 0-0 draw against Real Sociedad
Still only 20, he's 21 in a few weeks.
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Hopefully he can stay around first team this season. What position is he playing?

[tetsujin1979]

He was playing centre midfield for their B team last season, but today he came on for Sola, who was on the left wing

[liamoo11]

He was playing centre midfield for their B team last season, but today he came on for Sola, who was on the left wing

Thanks

[tetsujin1979]

Played 90 minutes.during the week in the cup against Manises, named as a substitute today against Real Madrid

[tetsujin1979]

Almost scored after coming on in the second half
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[tetsujin1979]

Starts tonight in the cup against Orihuela, who have Kevin Toner among their substitutes

[pateen]

Is he still eligible to the u21s

[Eirambler]

No, born 2003 so overage.

[tetsujin1979]

Seems to be moving to Reims
https://as.com/futbol/primera/john-patrick-rumbo-al-stade-de-reims-n/
(translated from Spanish)

The one who was the youngest debutant in Getafe's history now seems to be close to putting an end to his journey at the club in southern Madrid. His transfer to the Stade de Reims seems closed by just over 1M, with the player already passing medical examination in France.