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sbgawa
03/11/2020, 3:52 PM
So my take on this for next year (Listed below in likely finishing order this year...)
Major Caveat is that as per usual in LOI transfers over the next 4 months can make predictions now look pretty stupid

Shamrock Rovers Prediction 1st
Assuming we retain most of our team we have to be in with a massive chance of retaining the league.
Obviously Jack B is a big factor but even without him (add 1 or 2) we have a big shout.

Bohemians Prediction 3rd
Bohs have had a great season but i think have overachieved a bit with several smash and grab or narrow wins which will be hard to repeat.
Huge respect for Long so if he is still there maybe he can repeat.
With Dalymount being pushed out and the Tolka move being delayed Long may have a bigger budget next year to help courtesy of the Doherty money

Dundalk Prediction 2nd
Which Dundalk?? making a prediction on Dundalk now is like betting on the Ante Post for Cheltenham next March without knowing is your horse even going to run.
Do they sign back a lot of this team?? new lads from the States??
On the basis of the players still under contract and assuming P6 still around they will probaby still have a budget that will allow them compete.
Even signing back a few will give them the core of a super squad.
Have serious doubts about FG

Waterford Prediction 4th
If Power stays with it and Murphy up front (and in goals :) ) they will be compeititive.

Pats Prediction 6th
Hard to keep signing new teams, don;t expect much improvement

Sligo Prediction 7th
Bit like Pats hard to see much improvement but in this league one or two players can make the difference and they will have another year of Buckos influence

Derry Prediction 5th
Really poor this year was amazed to see Devine getting an extension on his contract, don't see how he has earned it. Derry should improve but will they....If Devine was given an extension maybe it means he is going to be backed with a bigger budget

Harps/Shels lets wait and see.........although if Harps stay up i don't see them being relegated next year

placid casual
03/11/2020, 8:09 PM
According to this tin foil hat wearing gob$hite on the bozos forum it's all a conspiracy anyway!.

"What Rovers done during the FAI meltdown was a masterstroke, and nobody from the media raised an eyebrow.
The got their man is as chairman of the NLEC who held the casting vote that dictated the direction the return to football would take, shortly after they elected themselves to the first division.
They got another of their men into the top job running the league, topped off with the leagues doctor who just happens to be Rovers doctor already in situ, and just to put they icing on the cake Pico became Chairman of the PFAI.

They literally have every angle and every decision covered all while there was no functioning FAI and no Ollie Byrne type character, to call them out on the stunt.

No point complaining now."
"

DCWA
04/11/2020, 10:48 AM
Don’t see the top 3 changing too much, Dundalk and Bohs switching spots. Rovers massive favs at this very early stage.

Quite a lot of the division is then a much of a muchness with some teams being a complete unknown for next year.

As for Derry agree with OP Devine getting an extension was a surprise and looks very premature now. That was announced a few days before the dreadful showing in Riterai and subsequent extremely poor form.

Some of the signings brought in for the league restart have just been woeful with one or two bright points.

Assuming we don’t go down the wishful thinking is that PO’D and the management team are and always have been willing to write off this season and put serious investment in for next year and build a team. I think this is very wishful thinking.

More likely is we will see further stagnation or deterioration under Devine and that he will not see out the 2021 season.

All very speculative.

Mr A
04/11/2020, 11:32 AM
Dundalk should be massive favourites with the budget they have- but recruitment is absolutely key of course.

Nesta99
04/11/2020, 1:13 PM
Dundalk should be massive favourites with the budget they have- but recruitment is absolutely key of course.

The issues i'd be concerned about in using the largest budget - a significant clearout and so a lot of new players in. Regardless of quality generally this takes time to reap reward, exceptions have happened eg the squad Stephen Kenny built from scratch. There are question marks over players brought in that are signed up for next season, are the good enough, worth their wage, or will they prove to be better than they have shown this disrupted season. Some long serving members of the squad are either not interested for whatever reason, noses out of joint, or are not aging well. Gannon is the main chap thats looking like he is barely going through the motions, be interesting to know what tis issue is for one of the most professional players in the league. Gartland is in some of his best form at 33, Rogers probably should call it time after EL. Start drafting in players from lower US football levels will be messy - if we look at how players have done after a move to the US, Barrett, Kilduff, Sheils among others it may be something of an indication to minimum standards needed. We could see a few more Colovic type signings which would be more positive than negative imo. But we do need to refresh things while keeping the squad ethic that has served us well. I also think the S+C side of things needs some mixing up, added to, changed to add to ideas and systems there - I actually think this needs to be done regularly enough with continuity as familiarity between players and S+C coaches makes things stale. Jump back to a time when Dundalk players dreaded being injured due to the work the had to do in rehab like cycling out the Cooley Mountains and back - I think we need more of that with the amount of injury prone players we have.

What happens at Rovers over the close season will dictate the 2021 league, not just with keeping Byrne, but adding some firepower, having people that can take some of the weight off Finn as eg he is is less and less a back to back game man especially if playing 90mins.

Bohs will strengthen but will always claim its done on a tiny budget, they need to make sure they dont get raided for players.

St Pats will either be very good or very bad....no surprise there but pivitol for S'OD and a few players. Forrester looked interested v Dundalk last weekend.

Harps need to kick on if they stay up as they should, and they are capable. They could be a preferred option to Derry for players depending on where Derry are going under Devine. He seems to improve teams early on and then plateaus quickly, last time out from free scoring Derry to an awful run of form, this season its very inconsistant.

Waterford will depend entirely on how bothered Power is.

Could be tough for Drogheda, they have never been able to resist pushing budgets to the absolute limit when in the Premier Division, so whether they stick mainly with this team that is growing or try to do a Shels, will tell its own story. If Shels are relegated it will be no surprise to see the likes of the Brennans obviously at United Park with Kilduff, Sheppard, Deegan et al. I think they would be better off keeping most of ther current squad with the addition of maybe Poynton, Lotefa, few loanees.

pineapple stu
04/11/2020, 6:40 PM
Bohs will strengthen but will always claim its done on a tiny budget, they need to make sure they dont get raided for players.
Don't forget Bohs have the guts of a million quid coming from the Matt Doherty transfer. If Dundalk are to have a transition season next year and Bohs can add one or two decent players, then they could well start the season as favourites to be Rovers' main challengers.

Nesta99
04/11/2020, 6:49 PM
I think they very well could. One of the reasons for playing the poor mouth card wont cut it 2021. The can remain prudent but it will ve by choice and dont have to lose players and as ye say can strengthen. Adding in Europe to their income might encourage at least a moderate loosening of the purse strings.

oriel
04/11/2020, 7:25 PM
Dundalk certainly have the money, but it needs to be spent a lot better in recruitment, and not giving out contracts for example to unproven UK players that no one else was after, Patching being prime example, and who unfortunately is still under contract.

We will need almost an entirely new MF to compete with Rovers next season, lots of other areas too will need rebuilding, and with the expected turnover of a lot of players, I would think winning the league might be a year too early. Maybe if the better / fully committed out of contract players are kept, and they can be supplemented with 4-5 top quality new signings, we might have a better chance.

Need to get a better manager in though, maybe that's a reason why p6 are not doing contract talks, as they only expect FG to stay until the Arsenal home game.

Charlie Darwin
05/11/2020, 1:45 AM
The issues i'd be concerned about in using the largest budget - a significant clearout and so a lot of new players in. Regardless of quality generally this takes time to reap reward, exceptions have happened eg the squad Stephen Kenny built from scratch. There are question marks over players brought in that are signed up for next season, are the good enough, worth their wage, or will they prove to be better than they have shown this disrupted season. Some long serving members of the squad are either not interested for whatever reason, noses out of joint, or are not aging well.
Ironically this is a similar situation to the one inherited at Rovers by... Stephen Kenny :)

Nesta99
05/11/2020, 2:03 AM
Yeah and it brings its own issues, SK having a clear and clean slate at Dundalk meant no baggage. I still think given the time that Croly, Fenlon and Bradley were afforded, Kenny would have delivered at Tallaght. I think some squad members at Dundalk have rebelled, downed tools, in a sinilar way to what SK had to deal with. Some shrewed business is needed by Dundalk, even if that is entirely internal. I dont think the manager needs to go Oriel! Its not gonna happen but FG with Trevor Croly as assistant is a workable forumula. Maybe Keegan can fill that role!?

Charlie Darwin
05/11/2020, 2:32 AM
I'm sure Kenny would have succeeded given the time Bradley has been given but sometimes lessons are hard-learned. What we've since learned about tragedy in his personal life puts a different spin on it too, but I do think it was just the worst time he could have taken over.

Nesta99
05/11/2020, 12:15 PM
Taking over a championship side is almost as hard as being thrown in to save a side from relegation for obvious different reasons, certinly from a rep point of view. The only way is down if taking over at the top. Wasnt aware of personal issues going on in the background tbh.

sbgawa
18/12/2020, 1:37 PM
So Rovers have traded Marshal and Lafferty for Gannon and Hoare.
That is without doubt an improvement overall.

We have also signed McCann who has a pretty impressive career but of whom i know very little and Danny Mandroiu who i presume is to replace Jack Byrne ...so that is a net negative although i think Mandroiu has great potential he isnt JB, maybe McCann will be a midfield version of Joey O Brien , if he is it becomes a positive :) .
Rumour is we are in for Duffy and that would change the picture for sure.

DCWA
18/12/2020, 6:04 PM
Any title odds for next season ?

Given the upheaval at Dundalk and Bohs looking like losing a few key players it looks worryingly like a one horse race already for next season.

thebronze14
19/12/2020, 10:38 AM
Any title odds for next season ?

Given the upheaval at Dundalk and Bohs looking like losing a few key players it looks worryingly like a one horse race already for next season.

Forgetting about an on form Harps mate:ttth:

DCWA
19/12/2020, 12:25 PM
Forgetting about an on form Harps mate:ttth:

Harps looking well for next season has to be said Rovers might just have a bit too much over 36 games. Harps for Europe.

DCSIL
19/12/2020, 9:35 PM
At the moment Rovers got to be favourites with the business they’re doing.

Bohs and Dundalk can’t really tell which way they are going to go yet.

Sligo will crack on. Bolger is a good signing and they’ve kept one of the leagues best keepers in McGinty.

Same as above with Pats and Waterford.

Derry look to be planning long term for once.

Harps have kept McGinley, will they get a transfer top up this year after THAT Cup tie.

Longford and Drogheda are signing well.

Martinho II
20/12/2020, 3:58 PM
At the moment Rovers got to be favourites with the business they’re doing.

Bohs and Dundalk can’t really tell which way they are going to go yet.

Sligo will crack on. Bolger is a good signing and they’ve kept one of the leagues best keepers in McGinty.

Same as above with Pats and Waterford.

Derry look to be planning long term for once.

Harps have kept McGinley, will they get a transfer top up this year after THAT Cup tie.

Longford and Drogheda are signing well.

so wonder who will go down next year I wonder ?

SeanDrog
20/12/2020, 5:09 PM
Any title odds for next season ?

Given the upheaval at Dundalk and Bohs looking like losing a few key players it looks worryingly like a one horse race already for next season.

I know we are looking good but I wouldn’t say the Drogs have it in the bag just yet ;)

Longfordian
20/12/2020, 5:59 PM
I think we need another few with Premier Division experience. Not sure we'll get many goals from the forward options we have currently either.

sbgawa
20/12/2020, 6:01 PM
so wonder who will go down next year I wonder ?

Good question.
Harps look like being to good and should avoid the annual battle. Hard to see beyond longford and drogs tbh. Pats sligo derry all apear to be strengthing, waterford look like they are havibg another go, expensive management team so you would thibk they have a budget to go with it....already have murphy signed back, so bar a cork like implosion from one of this years top 3 the two promoted sides should be scrapping it out.

pineapple stu
20/12/2020, 6:08 PM
Implosions can't be ruled out if covid continues into the summer, but yeah, the two promoted sides look the obvious candidates. It's not really clear how you'd place the eight PD teams from last year though (the FD sides don't have to slot in at 9th and 10th of course)

nigel-harps1954
20/12/2020, 8:17 PM
Harps all primed to kick our way to a famous Premier Division title.

sulywaterfordfc
20/12/2020, 10:15 PM
Looking at it now, I’d imagine Rovers win the league by a hatful. But with Bohs and Dundalk facing a reshuffle its questionable whether they can retain or improve on the standard they’ve set in recent years. Waterford, Derry, Pats, and Sligo will probably keep some and move more on. Hard to predict how good they’ll be or whether they’ll struggle it out with Harps, Drogheda and Longford. The euro places could be an interesting battle next year, I don’t see Bohs or Dundalk being too much further ahead then the rest like in previous years. Dundalk really is an interesting one, with the spine of the team looking likely to be broken up and with a new manager facing his first full season managing in the men’s senior ranks without much league experience. It could potentially blow up in the chairman’s face next year with the reports of his actions to date it doesn’t borde well for Dundalk

nigel-harps1954
21/12/2020, 9:51 AM
Looking at it now, I’d imagine Rovers win the league by a hatful. But with Bohs and Dundalk facing a reshuffle its questionable whether they can retain or improve on the standard they’ve set in recent years. Waterford, Derry, Pats, and Sligo will probably keep some and move more on. Hard to predict how good they’ll be or whether they’ll struggle it out with Harps, Drogheda and Longford. The euro places could be an interesting battle next year, I don’t see Bohs or Dundalk being too much further ahead then the rest like in previous years. Dundalk really is an interesting one, with the spine of the team looking likely to be broken up and with a new manager facing his first full season managing in the men’s senior ranks without much league experience. It could potentially blow up in the chairman’s face next year with the reports of his actions to date it doesn’t borde well for Dundalk

That's probably the best post I've seen on here in months.

Dundalks season could blow up in their face because of their mad owners and chairman.

Yet, Waterford are expected to keep up their chase of the top teams...in spite of their mental owner and chairman. They have signed, two, three players, and lost the majority of last season's squad?

Derry and Pat's have shown nothing to convince anyone of their season, in the transfer window so far.

Harps keeping the large bulk of the squad that were in the top three in the form guide for the second half of last season, but are expected to struggle with Longford and Drogheda..

All round, top post.

EatYerGreens
21/12/2020, 4:44 PM
Hard to see past County Dublin Irish Sea FC making a clean sweep of every trophy next season.

Get your money on them for a Champions League group stage spot next Autumn as well. #ProTip

Martinho II
21/12/2020, 8:31 PM
Yeah superb above post by Suly. With the shambles with Dundalk on and off the pitch expect a rapid fall from grace for them over the next few seasons. I think Sligo Rovers have signed well so far and I expect them to maybe finish go up a place. I also think Harps will have another good season also. Im not convinced Declan Devine reappt has worked out for Derry so I wouldnt be surprised if they finish in a playoff spot or even face relegation. I wont predict us yet as I wasnt expecting us to go up but I think we will do very well to avoid relegation as Drogheda have the better squad than us imo.

2 Year Contract
21/12/2020, 9:40 PM
To answer the question asked in the thread title, obviously shamrock rovers look like they’ll retain the title next year given that they’ve strengthened an already unbeaten league side.

Outside of that though it’s pointless trying to predict how the table will look at this early stage given there’s more or less no club (outside of rovers) that’s finished their squad for the season, with the majority absolutely miles away from being finished

Charlie Darwin
22/12/2020, 2:35 AM
Yeah superb above post by Suly. With the shambles with Dundalk on and off the pitch expect a rapid fall from grace for them over the next few seasons. I think Sligo Rovers have signed well so far and I expect them to maybe finish go up a place. I also think Harps will have another good season also. Im not convinced Declan Devine reappt has worked out for Derry so I wouldnt be surprised if they finish in a playoff spot or even face relegation. I wont predict us yet as I wasnt expecting us to go up but I think we will do very well to avoid relegation as Drogheda have the better squad than us imo.
I wouldn't predict anything with Dundalk. Giovagnoli showed his ability in the cup final and Magilton is a smart guy who will bring in good players.

placid casual
22/12/2020, 11:35 AM
I wouldn't predict anything with Dundalk. Giovagnoli showed his ability in the cup final and Magilton is a smart guy who will bring in good players.
That's all well and good, but the yank in the "boardroom" is the unstabilising influence which causes people to hold the belief that dundalk may fall before they rise again.

Martinho II
22/12/2020, 8:32 PM
That's all well and good, but the yank in the "boardroom" is the unstabilising influence which causes people to hold the belief that dundalk may fall before they rise again.

thats exactly my thinking. It rang alarm bells in my head with the comments of Jim Magilton about having influence over signings saying that he wont be yet. Why did he come then?

wonder88
22/12/2020, 11:03 PM
Are S Hoare and Gannon that big a loss to Dundalk? It is clear that with new management that there was to be a shake up/clear out, and just from observing as a LoI fan it has been badly needed. Indeed the squad at Oriel Park should have been overhauled a year ago at least. Recruitment is such a key part of management, and it has to be said that the record of managers in the LoI is mostly poor in this regard.

SeanDrog
24/12/2020, 12:02 PM
I think the money would have to be on Rovers but I don’t think it will be a runaway, Dundalk will be thereabouts and I think so will Bohs (I wouldn’t underestimate the stabilising influence of the steady eddie rebuild off pitch in recent years at Bohs).

As a Drogs I’m under no illusions that success for us will be to stay up - Longford and us are relegation favourites given the big gap promoted teams have to cross. Obviously I am hopeful we stay up and we catch some of the more settled premier outfits off guard.

Nah Nah Nah Nah
24/12/2020, 3:03 PM
I think it will be runaway. Again.

Charlie Darwin
24/12/2020, 3:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJdKktufMdUhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a2/RunawayRemix99.jpg

oriel
24/12/2020, 8:53 PM
Rovers def favs, but things might change if as expected Jack B leaves, and who Dundalk get in, prob better looking at this topic again when most have their squads completed. Bohs won't be too far away either and will be more experienced after a solid 2020.

1. Rovers. 2. Dundalk 3. Bohs - subject to change !

At the other end, I think it will be very challenging for Longford to avoid auto relegation, maybe in a 12 team league, might have better chance, a 10 team will be very tough for them. I also think FH seem to have it cracked it now, so can't see them involved in bottom 2, Drogs should have enough to give themselves a chance with the play off.

Martinho II
25/12/2020, 7:28 PM
Rovers def favs, but things might change if as expected Jack B leaves, and who Dundalk get in, prob better looking at this topic again when most have their squads completed. Bohs won't be too far away either and will be more experienced after a solid 2020.

1. Rovers. 2. Dundalk 3. Bohs - subject to change !

At the other end, I think it will be very challenging for Longford to avoid auto relegation, maybe in a 12 team league, might have better chance, a 10 team will be very tough for them. I also think FH seem to have it cracked it now, so can't see them involved in bottom 2, Drogs should have enough to give themselves a chance with the play off.

Thats my fear Oriel as I didnt expect us to go up this season after ending the season badly before the playoffs. But look even if we even stay up for one season in top flight and go down I rather that way than the way it ended badly when Tony Cousins was in charge and we overachieved in our first season and were poor in our second.

Neish
26/12/2020, 8:22 AM
Hard to look past Shamrock Rovers again, even if Jack Byrne does leave I think they have enough in the squad and the signing they have made so far to win without too much trouble. Big rebuild for Dundalk that last 2 season have seen them lose a good few players that were key to their success over last 5 or 6 years, I really don't see them seriously challenging for the Premier in 2021. Bohs look like they will be Shams biggest rival for the league. Sligo I imagine will be up in the battle for europe again possibly Waterford too but with a new manager with no experience in the league and their owners madness they could as easily be the other end of the table

I hope Ollie Horgan can find a quality goalscorer with such an addition and resigning most of the 2020 squad I think Harps can push towards mid table possibly even 3rd or 4th. As for the rest I see them in the bottom half for most of the season, Harps could will be there too, it will most likely turn into a battle between Longford and Drogheda as we move into the final round of games

oriel
26/12/2020, 2:20 PM
Thats my fear Oriel as I didnt expect us to go up this season after ending the season badly before the playoffs. But look even if we even stay up for one season in top flight and go down I rather that way than the way it ended badly when Tony Cousins was in charge and we overachieved in our first season and were poor in our second.

Plus I meant to add Martinho 'with the greatest of respect' as that's a fine stadium you have and a most welcome addition to the PD, I just think it will be very tough for you, but you never know.

oriel
26/12/2020, 2:31 PM
Hard to look past Shamrock Rovers again, even if Jack Byrne does leave I think they have enough in the squad and the signing they have made so far to win without too much trouble. Big rebuild for Dundalk that last 2 season have seen them lose a good few players that were key to their success over last 5 or 6 years, I really don't see them seriously challenging for the Premier in 2021. Bohs look like they will be Shams biggest rival for the league. Sligo I imagine will be up in the battle for europe again possibly Waterford too but with a new manager with no experience in the league and their owners madness they could as easily be the other end of the table

I hope Ollie Horgan can find a quality goalscorer with such an addition and resigning most of the 2020 squad I think Harps can push towards mid table possibly even 3rd or 4th. As for the rest I see them in the bottom half for most of the season, Harps could will be there too, it will most likely turn into a battle between Longford and Drogheda as we move into the final round of games

Maybe, but still 7 who started the cup final, are already signed up for 2021, (should be 8 next week as Gartland due to sign) - others were Boyle, Cleary, Dummingam, Shields, Slogget, McEleneny + McMillan, plus 2 of 3 subs in Leahy + D. Kelly are signed for 2021. Also these who didn't feature in Hoban, Colovic + Murray also signed up, add in the new Norwegian striker (jury out til we see him play), there's a fair backbone there.

It will be key if the likes of Duffy stays though, plus who they get to replace Gannon and Hoare, and at least 3 quality new MF players and critically the no 1 GK that will shape the hopes for 2021 in my book.

sbgawa
26/12/2020, 5:58 PM
Gannon only first teamer to leave DFC excluding rogers who was ok at best. Duffy stays its bascially the same first 11.
Dfc - gannon , rovers - byrne (probably) i dont need to think long about who is stronger compared to this season

Neish
27/12/2020, 1:45 PM
Maybe, but still 7 who started the cup final, are already signed up for 2021, (should be 8 next week as Gartland due to sign) - others were Boyle, Cleary, Dummingam, Shields, Slogget, McEleneny + McMillan, plus 2 of 3 subs in Leahy + D. Kelly are signed for 2021. Also these who didn't feature in Hoban, Colovic + Murray also signed up, add in the new Norwegian striker (jury out til we see him play), there's a fair backbone there.

It will be key if the likes of Duffy stays though, plus who they get to replace Gannon and Hoare, and at least 3 quality new MF players and critically the no 1 GK that will shape the hopes for 2021 in my book.

Yeah it great Dundalk still have all those lads that helped them finish 3rd and needing more than 22 points to win the league

oriel
29/12/2020, 6:52 PM
Yeah it great Dundalk still have all those lads that helped them finish 3rd and needing more than 22 points to win the league

Yep - give you that one, we were dreadful in the league, post lockdown, no wins in August, and lucky to finish 3rd in the end, and make the final euro spot for the league.

The fai cup form on the other hand was polar opposite, convincingly beating the teams in 2nd and 1st to win the trophy.

Neish
30/12/2020, 8:44 AM
Yep - give you that one, we were dreadful in the league, post lockdown, no wins in August, and lucky to finish 3rd in the end, and make the final euro spot for the league.

The fai cup form on the other hand was polar opposite, convincingly beating the teams in 2nd and 1st to win the trophy.

I wouldn't go too crazy on cup form, cup games tend to be decided on one game and we often see lower tier teams progress into later stages of cup around the world. League form is how a team should be judged and for me the jury is still very much out on Filippo Giovagnoli here. He has a bit job for 2021 and has already lost a few key players, if he can win the 2021 Premier of even be still in with a shout of doing so win the last couple of weeks then he will have proven his worth but as yet I see very little of note he has done. The team that won the cup was Kenny's & Perth's team not his

pineapple stu
30/12/2020, 9:01 AM
A relatively minor point, but did Dundalk really "convincingly" beat Rovers in the Cup final?

Bohs, yes. But the final went to extra-time and the comments on here at the time were that Dundalk weren't really at the races until McMillan scored his first, 70 minutes in.

Nesta99
30/12/2020, 9:13 AM
No it certainly wasnt convincingly bar on the scoreboard which is what counts. It was more a performance of grit and showing a doggedness that had been absent during the league campaign. Confidence was still fragile but when we grew in confidence as the game went on, especially with the McMillan goal we showed more of the type of performance v Rovers in Tallaght (where I felt when we were on top that Rovers hung in with a doggedness that wasnt there previous seasons) than the game in Oriel. European excuses aside, if a full 1st 11 was out in that game we would still have been beaten well thta day imo.

pineapple stu
30/12/2020, 10:36 AM
Yeah, that's fair. It was a performance which showed Dundalk still have it, but I wouldn't go much further than that.

I would be slightly worried by all the talk of random Faroese and Albanians joining though. I get the argument that Dundalk have to look outside the league for stronger players, but the track record (not just with Dundalk) is really poor in that regard. But sure I guess let's see what happens!

Nesta99
30/12/2020, 1:34 PM
The defender linked has been on the books of decent clubs for whatever that is worth considering he was a sub against us with both FH and KI, 6'6 so stick him on the front post and he might shore up our zonal defence...

Charlie Darwin
30/12/2020, 1:49 PM
No it certainly wasnt convincingly bar on the scoreboard which is what counts. It was more a performance of grit and showing a doggedness that had been absent during the league campaign. Confidence was still fragile but when we grew in confidence as the game went on, especially with the McMillan goal we showed more of the type of performance v Rovers in Tallaght (where I felt when we were on top that Rovers hung in with a doggedness that wasnt there previous seasons) than the game in Oriel. European excuses aside, if a full 1st 11 was out in that game we would still have been beaten well thta day imo.
i'm not one to underestimate Dundalk and I think you'll challenge us next year (or we could be ****e and finish third) but I think Dundalk need a bit of a turnover to compete. If you'd told me a year ago before the 2019 cup final that Dundalk would coming into the cup final as underdogs I'd have been surprised.

pineapple stu
30/12/2020, 1:57 PM
The defender linked has been on the books of decent clubs for whatever that is worth considering he was a sub against us with both FH and KI, 6'6 so stick him on the front post and he might shore up our zonal defence...
Do you mean this fella (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonni_Nattestad)? Saw him mentioned on I think Gerry Malone's twitter (again, for what that's worth)

He's been on the books at a few decent clubs - though he's not really played for them all that much. 4 games for Midtylland, none for Molde. The rest is lower league or Icelandic/Faroese league. Could maybe do a job in LoI, but still get the feeling he wouldn't really push Dundalk on.