View Full Version : Republic of Ireland V Wales - Sunday, 11th October 2020 - UEFA Nations League
Bielsa´s irish
11/10/2020, 6:22 PM
If the original member of the travelling party who tested false positive caused two players to be unavailable, does that mean they are back available now? Or is there a rule in play I misunderstand?
cant play. Finland can restrict them as well
Scrufil
11/10/2020, 6:22 PM
Why not?
Bielsa´s irish
11/10/2020, 6:27 PM
Why not?
because they were restricted of coronas and placed on quarantine. I think Finland could protest as well.
Trequartista20
11/10/2020, 6:29 PM
Without wanting to sound like a masochist or a candidate for the funny farm, Is there anywhere online where you can watch a rerun, or even highlights, of the last two matches?
I'd like to see them again in more dispassionate and analytical frame of mind.
Scrufil
11/10/2020, 6:39 PM
Let Finland protest, if between now and Weds the players test negative, let the them play. Ireland are going out in good faith that the Finns are honourable in regards to their Covid testing why should we trust them if they don't trust a negative test result?
pineapple stu
11/10/2020, 6:49 PM
Who cares if they flopped in those foreign places, our so called successful players are no good. They can be no worse.
Of course they can
Bielsa´s irish
11/10/2020, 6:51 PM
Let Finland protest, if between now and Weds the players test negative, let the them play. Ireland are going out in good faith that the Finns are honourable in regards to their Covid testing why should we trust them if they don't trust a negative test result?
this is soccer, everybody wants to have a bit of advantages of any sort.
Win half -0, as they say in Spain and Italy
Scrufil
11/10/2020, 6:55 PM
Of course they can What the hell planet did you learn maths on? How can no goals for forwards for in the last two games be worse that no goals in the next game?
Olé Olé
11/10/2020, 6:55 PM
Without wanting to sound like a masochist or a candidate for the funny farm, Is there anywhere online where you can watch a rerun, or even highlights, of the last two matches?
I'd like to see them again in more dispassionate and analytical frame of mind.
Were there highlights shows for each on RTE? RTE player or Virgin media player? If you're not in Ireland I'm not sure.
Scrufil
11/10/2020, 6:58 PM
this is soccer, everybody wants to have a bit of advantages of any sort.
Win half -0, as they say in Spain and Italy
Doesn't answer the question, that is only a deflection.
Closed Account
11/10/2020, 6:58 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/comments/j94v62/republic_of_ireland_vs_wales_uefa_nations_league/
https://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/comments/j7n02s/slovakia_vs_republic_of_ireland_euro/
irishfan86
11/10/2020, 6:59 PM
Without wanting to sound like a masochist or a candidate for the funny farm, Is there anywhere online where you can watch a rerun, or even highlights, of the last two matches?
I'd like to see them again in more dispassionate and analytical frame of mind.
In Canada we can watch UEFA.TV for free. No sports networks bought rights to Nations League so it’s all available on that site. Not sure if geoblocked in Ireland. If it is geoblocked you could get around it by using a VPN if you’ve got that.
Scrufil
11/10/2020, 7:00 PM
Highlights on Virgin media of Ireland game tonight.
Trequartista20
11/10/2020, 7:00 PM
I'm not in Ireland and RTÉ have some incredibly aggressive geoblockers that seem impossible to circumvent. But I'll try Virgin.
Edit: Just seen some of the other responses. Thanks guys.
pineapple stu
11/10/2020, 7:01 PM
What the hell planet did you learn maths on? How can no goals for forwards for in the last two games be worse that no goals in the next game?
They could be worse at holding on to possession and put us under more pressure defensively
patric
11/10/2020, 7:01 PM
Stupid tackle from McClean considering he was on a yellow, some positive football without being overly threatening. I agree with some posters that we need to mix it up a little, set pieces were always our strong point, there is no point in just knocking it about for the sake of it , we also need a cutting edge.
Razors left peg
11/10/2020, 7:02 PM
because they were restricted of coronas and placed on quarantine. I think Finland could protest as well.
Where did you see that or is it something you made up?
Bielsa´s irish
11/10/2020, 7:10 PM
In Canada we can watch UEFA.TV for free. No sports networks bought rights to Nations League so it’s all available on that site. Not sure if geoblocked in Ireland. If it is geoblocked you could get around it by using a VPN if you’ve got that.
In Argentina also, only 10 am a sunday
for free cest tout le foot!
Bielsa´s irish
11/10/2020, 7:12 PM
I'm not in Ireland and RTÉ have some incredibly aggressive geoblockers that seem impossible to circumvent. But I'll try Virgin.
Edit: Just seen some of the other responses. Thanks guys.
with this pandemic it is inmoral to block the football matches. Inmoral. people first!
Razors left peg
11/10/2020, 7:12 PM
I'm not in Ireland and RTÉ have some incredibly aggressive geoblockers that seem impossible to circumvent. But I'll try Virgin.
Edit: Just seen some of the other responses. Thanks guys.
If you are in the US all games are on ESPN +
Bielsa´s irish
11/10/2020, 7:14 PM
Where did you see that or is it something you made up?
Teams can protest as in Southamerica, if there is an infected player, not a made up scenario
Razors left peg
11/10/2020, 7:15 PM
Teams can protest as in Southamerica, if there is an infected player, not a made up scenario
Except they are not infected and were not around an infected person. It was a false positive and that person has tested negative twice since.
Bielsa´s irish
11/10/2020, 7:22 PM
Except they are not infected and were not around an infected person. It was a false positive and that person has tested negative twice since.
You are correct, but this is football, polititians cream their pants when their teams win a match, and happens everywhere.
The lads are in the uk or slovakia?,
what i can tell you is...any big country will block them to play.
Scrufil
11/10/2020, 7:23 PM
Except they are not infected and were not around an infected person. It was a false positive and that person has tested negative twice since.
This is my understanding too. It is now up to the doctors to prove this is the case. The medical side over-rides the football side I believe.
Scrufil
11/10/2020, 7:25 PM
Are Finland a big country?
Razors left peg
11/10/2020, 7:29 PM
Think I'm going to head over to YBIG to get a bit of common sense
Scrufil
11/10/2020, 7:33 PM
Think I'm going to head over to YBIG to get a bit of common sense
So you believe in the impossible?
Bielsa´s irish
11/10/2020, 7:47 PM
Are Finland a big country?
Football nation with power for lobby.
Fifa is very aware of any incident, we started the wc qualies last week, dont think the doctors of any F.A or the government doctors will forbid a player to play.
What happened to Connolly and Idah, has to be revised, a clever phone call from the correct nation's polititian, and the situation was resolved, thats why Kenny is so upset. Let them play and after match we will see.
Check what the slovaks did with that mihailik dude, how do you know he wasnt positive beforehand ? And what if the slovaks covered it up.
This will happen, I admire the government of the Republic because they did the right thing to do, but most countries will try to cover the tests of their players when money or a tournament is at risk, my friends
eekers
11/10/2020, 8:50 PM
A decent set of results today when it came to the seeding battle.
Two of the four catchable teams ahead of us lost (Serbia and Slovakia). The other two Russia and Turkey drew with each other.
The three teams directly behind us Northern Ireland, Romania and Iceland all lost.
Still in 21st place.
Fixer82
11/10/2020, 9:54 PM
Are Finland a big country?
It’s turning into Quora Digest.
paul_oshea
11/10/2020, 11:13 PM
A decent set of results today when it came to the seeding battle.
Two of the four catchable teams ahead of us lost (Serbia and Slovakia). The other two Russia and Turkey drew with each other.
The three teams directly behind us Northern Ireland, Romania and Iceland all lost.
Still in 21st place.
So basically we need to hit 20 right? What does a win on Wednesday do for us? I thought from what real ale Madrid said it's more to do with the teams around us messing up?
elatedscum
12/10/2020, 2:46 AM
Strange game. Hard to be too critical when you’re missing 12 players (Coleman, Egan, Lenihan, Williams, O’Dowda, McCarthy, Arter, Browne, Connolly, Robinson, McGoldrick, Idah - throw Bazunu in goal and it’s a better team that we were able to field)... When our fifth choice centre half comes off injured early and was replaced by our 3rd choice right back, bad times ahead. We had just lost a heartbreaker on penalties and plenty of players had played 120+ mins 2.5 days before...
If we’d been hockied 4-0, you’d probably shrug and think it’s understandable. On a positive note, we were well organised and we restricted Wales to a single half decent effort. The likes of Ramsey, James, Wilson and Brooks were all kept very quiet and they’re all players of genuine ability...
Another clean sheet. Matt Doherty did very well considering what was asked of him. Stevens was very impressive for the most part. Will be interesting to see if we can keep the defensive solidity against better opposition.
We probably had the 4 best chances: the Long header, the Horgan header and rebound, the Brady shot and the Christie effort. Over the course of the game, we played some nice football without really being penetrative.
In terms of attacking creation, we were really lacking pace. There were times when Brady tried to go past the full back and it really wasn’t pretty. McClean’s delivery to Horgan was good for that chance and his pullback to Stevens for the Long chance was also good. Connolly and Robinson would have given us totally different options.
Thought Horgan did himself no harm, was good and busy, didn’t do amazing but certainly could become a squad member.
Molumby did well but the passing can be a little wayward on occasion, like a lot of our midfielders. His fresh legs illustrated how tired Hourihane and Hendrick were. I would have brought on Cullen and Byrne for them after about 65 mins. They were running on fumes.
Think it was useful for Kenny to see Shane Long. Didn’t have a great game and while still quick, has probably lost a little pace. Nonetheless, worked hard and won some good frees and showed good movement off the ball. Feel he’s probably been harshly treated in recent times: thought he should have started ahead of Idah previously and the likes of Collins being picked ahead of him under Mick was mad, same about Daryl Murphy for Martin...
Considering everything that transpired prior to the game, you’d have to think it was a fine performance.
Hopefully Connolly goes rogue and boards a flight in the morning.
ifk101
12/10/2020, 7:24 AM
Big improvement yesterday compared to the Finland game. Still very much a work in progress but the team's approach and structure is good, certain individual performances less than good. I hope he tries somebody else in Hendrick's position for Finland away. Hendrick isn't doing enough to justify automatic starts and my sense yesterday was our play broke down more often than not when he touched the ball. I'd mix up midfield for Wednesday and bring in Cullen and Byrne for Hourihane and Hendrick. Byrne needs to be given an opportunity - if it doesn't work, it doesn't work but we need a better link in midfield and somebody to put more zip into the passing.
Exgrad
12/10/2020, 9:41 AM
The big positive i would take from the last two games is that we are able to play on the front foot while not looking like we will concede a goal every time the opposition get the ball, which was the case in the previous two games. Would probably put that down to fitness as much as anything else.
paul_oshea
12/10/2020, 10:07 AM
The big positive i would take from the last two games is that we are able to play on the front foot while not looking like we will concede a goal every time the opposition get the ball, which was the case in the previous two games. Would probably put that down to fitness as much as anything else.
Ya the main positive is we look very organised(without the ball, which we were to be fair generally the last 10 years but we didnt look to press high) and quick to get back and not lose shape when we are countered, but the level of opposition its difficult to ascertain just how good we are at that. The other big positive is Duffy i think hes been great over the last few games, and he is really trying to play ball, and not just simple passes 10 yards in front or to the side hes trying the cross-field diagonal balls too which are much better at actually breaking the oppositions line.
geysir
12/10/2020, 11:23 AM
As most sensible football aficionados knew would happen, Duffy's Celtic boots did not have to shrink in order to fit.
paul_oshea
12/10/2020, 11:29 AM
You mean you geysir? :D
I hope his feet stay firmly on the ground so.
geysir
12/10/2020, 11:31 AM
Let's not forget the remarkable goal line footblock with his size 48s.
seanfhear
12/10/2020, 11:37 AM
Let's not forget the remarkable goal line footblock with his size 48s.
As Good as a Goal !
Stuttgart88
12/10/2020, 12:21 PM
I'm surprised Hendrick gets singled out for criticism. He was a solid 6/10 or better. Sure he has his flaws and is sometimes careless.
Hourihane is the puzzle for me. Not being there affects one's ability to assess but judging from TV I thought he was a total passenger throughout the whole game. I really really want to see Cullen replace him directly.
irishfan86
12/10/2020, 12:31 PM
If Brady is on the pitch there's no need for Hourihane to be there too. That's my general assessment. And generally speaking I'd prefer to have Brady on, probably in midfield. In a wide forward role, he's a bit too one-paced for my liking.
Fixer82
12/10/2020, 1:19 PM
If Brady is on the pitch there's no need for Hourihane to be there too. That's my general assessment. And generally speaking I'd prefer to have Brady on, probably in midfield. In a wide forward role, he's a bit too one-paced for my liking.
I agree totally
Bielsa´s irish
12/10/2020, 2:25 PM
Yes i was glad Duffy looked a total different player, he tries to accurate his passing in an attacking sense, overhit a few at grass level, but an improvement.
I think Hourihane is getting going as well as a Glenn Whelan replacement, his link between defence and attack has been very good, he still plays a few luxury passes that can be intercepted, should play it simpler, but he is doing v good
DeLorean
12/10/2020, 5:04 PM
We've abandoned set pieces, where we could score from, for creating chances that we can't finish from.
You're making this point repeatedly, but what are you actually basing it on? Kenny has spoken specifically about wanting us to keep the attributes we're good at. After Duffy's goal in Bulgaria he made the point that we hadn't scored from a corner (presumably in competitive matches) since Daryl Murphy in 2017, so it's clearly something he's conscious of.
He had James McCarthy on some of the set pieces against Slovakia, not saying this was a good idea, but obviously a bit of thought had gone into it at the very least. They seemed to be generally lofted towards their inexperienced keeper, obviously trying to expose any potential weakness there. He was very well protected from the referee though it has to be said. We almost forced an own goal from Hamsik with another from Hourihane.
I think it was well documented that MON didn't pay any special attention to working on set pieces. Under Mick we scored, I make it, three goals from set pieces in his ten games in charge, two which came in friendlies against pretty weak opposition. I don't think the strategy was ever anything more creative than whipping towards Duffy anyway, so what are we abandoning exactly?
Stuttgart88
12/10/2020, 6:24 PM
How can you abandon set pieces anyway? "No thanks ref, we don't want this corner. We'd prefer to score from sexy football so can you please award the goal kick instead."
seanfhear
12/10/2020, 6:32 PM
How can you abandon set pieces anyway? "No thanks ref, we don't want this corner. We'd prefer to score from sexy football so can you please award the goal kick instead."
Teams should not accepts goals unless the have outstanding merit of at least 8.9 or more !
elatedscum
12/10/2020, 6:41 PM
I haven’t noticed a difference really. Hourihane and Brady are delivering good balls, especially from free kicks, the one Hamsik almost put in his own net springs to mind. Also the free that Duffy slid at.
In the last two games, we’ve given up loads of free kicks from corners, like the one where Duffy got punched in the head and got a free against him. I don’t really think that’s our fault though. Like the free for Randolph yesterday, it’s a case of bad refereeing. Don’t think Randolph actually fouled Ampadu but it definitely wasn’t a free out... Duffy, Long, Hourihane, Hendrick have all been penalised challenging for headers...
pineapple stu
12/10/2020, 6:57 PM
How can you abandon set pieces anyway? "No thanks ref, we don't want this corner. We'd prefer to score from sexy football so can you please award the goal kick instead."
Literally the only goal we've scored under Kenny has come from a corner.
irishfan86
12/10/2020, 7:06 PM
Well, maybe not abandon, but I’m sure a coach can get his players to play the ball quickly/short to feet to catch teams out rather than take more traditional set pieces.
That said I haven’t seen us do much of that. We are taking our time to set up free kicks and corners and getting the ball into dangerous areas.
Charlie Darwin
13/10/2020, 12:46 AM
Kenny's Dundalk team were meticulous from attacking and defending set pieces. It was one of the main ways they scored. There's absolutely no evidence he hasn't been coaching them either.
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