Games w/e 6 Sept

[pineapple stu]

Getting very tight in the First Division at the moment - two points separating the top 5, with Cabo losing again

Tight in the Premier too, with Waterford moving from 8th to 4th if they keep their lead over Pats

[Jack B]

We're utterly tedious to support these days.

Then again if Harps could do it...

[pineapple stu]

UCD 5 up after 46 minutes

Yoyo Mahdy has a hat-trick, and a fourth will move him level with Benson as our tenth highest scorer since joining the league

[CorribsideSteve]

Galway on the way to their first win of the season

[DCSIL]

UCD settled for 8 then.

[pineapple stu]

Equals our record win, also against Wexford.

We've hit 8 three times in the past five years, and I've missed every one of those games. :rolleyes:

Wexford's keeper was in nets for us when we lost 10-1 in Dalymount last year actually (and 11-0 against Portsmouth)

[desaintsno.12]

For the love of God SOD , please just leave. He is going to relegate us if he stays.

[D24Saint]

We're utterly tedious to support these days.

Then again if Harps could do it...

Harps fans are great people but it’s always harder to climb to the top of the mountain then come back down to this tripe.

[TonyD]

For the love of God SOD , please just leave. He is going to relegate us if he stays.

We are in deep doo doo. Don't want to be calling for the managers head after really very little time in the job. Teams who change their manager regularly very rarely do well. However, it's looking like a bad appointment. Where we go from here I really don't know. Honestly can't see where a win is coming from.

[SPXcyan]

Handy win for us tonight, we didn't bottle it this time around, Pats very poor up front.

[Nesta99]

We are in deep doo doo. Don't want to be calling for the managers head after really very little time in the job. Teams who change their manager regularly very rarely do well. However, it's looking like a bad appointment. Where we go from here I really don't know. Honestly can't see where a win is coming from.

Vinny Perthm Alan Reynolds, and John Gill as first team coaches supporting O'Donnell, sure what could go wrong...maybe he should be called Agent O'Donnell, sent in to keep the relegation slots occupied in case of a Dundalk collapse. Getting Reynolds out of Waterford hasnt worked though.

The shortened season is asking serious questions and giving damn all breathing space if there is any weakness at a club. Can see why Kelleher was in the same camp as the Dundalk chairman, he probably knew S'OD needed a lot more uninterrupted time at the helm.

[CorribsideSteve]

When I go to pay to watch the SRFC Bohs game on watchLOI, it tell's me the game is unavailable due to rights issues. Is that negated by actually paying for the service?

[D24Saint]

When I go to pay to watch the SRFC Bohs game on watchLOI, it tell's me the game is unavailable due to rights issues. Is that negated by actually paying for the service?

EIR sport have exclusive rights to certain games.

[SPXcyan]

The game is being broadcasted by Eir Sports so this is why we cannot watch the game via WatchLOI.

[CorribsideSteve]

Cheers. Found a trackchamp style stream for it. Seriously cheesy 80's music booming over the tannoy at Tallaght for the H/T interval :p
On a sepoerate note for Pats fans, I seem to recall different posters dreading upcoming Pats games while under Harry Kenny. How does this poor run of form under SO'D tally with the experience of watching games under Harry Kenny?

[Jack B]

Cheers. Found a trackchamp style stream for it. Seriously cheesy 80's music booming over the tannoy at Tallaght for the H/T interval :p
On a sepoerate note for Pats fans, I seem to recall different posters dreading upcoming Pats games while under Harry Kenny. How does this poor run of form under SO'D tally with the experience of watching games under Harry Kenny?

It's similarly depressing just in a different manner. SOD sets the team up to at least attempt to play somewhat progressively and to press the opposition, it's just we look absolutely toothless creatively and give daft goals away. Even if the results were better Kenny was just another level for me, he'd often play 5 at the back with 3 defensive midfielders and there was just a lack of even attempting to score rather than what is just the inability to now. Not to be wise after the fact but if we had've kept Bucko and given him the means the last couple have had I think we'd be a lot better off.

I do wonder how long Mr. K's patience will last. He writes off a lot of money every year for what's been consistent dirt for a while now.

[CorribsideSteve]

It's similarly depressing just in a different manner. SOD sets the team up to at least attempt to play somewhat progressively and to press the opposition, it's just we look absolutely toothless creatively and give daft goals away. Even if the results were better Kenny was just another level for me, he'd often play 5 at the back with 3 defensive midfielders and there was just a lack of even attempting to score rather than what is just the inability to now. Not to be wise after the fact but if we had've kept Bucko and given him the means the last couple have had I think we'd be a lot better off.

I do wonder how long Mr. K's patience will last. He writes off a lot of money every year for what's been consistent dirt for a while now.

Doesn't sound too promising with regards the rest of the current campaign, but I'd imagine he'l be given another crack at it next year. Buckley looked jaded and out of ideas I thought towards his last days in charge there, but maybe, as you said with hindsight, things could have been different with a better budget. An LOI-ism if ever there was one.

[placid casual]

The stonewall peno in the 2nd half was almost on the exact spot where Grace got hit in the face with the ball but conceded a peno when Rovers lost in tallaght a few years ago.
Justice.
Another 3 points closer to the title.

[sbgawa]

3 points, huge win, tense at the end.

[Philosophizer]

Rovers got away with 2 clear penos today, but that's the luck you need in big games. Can't see them being caught now.

What's the deal with Mandroiu at Bohs tho? He's the best player in the league on his day. You could even see it today when he came on he's on a different level. Paul Corry mentioned it after the game today that he can't understand why he's not in the Bohs team this year. Dan McDonnell mentioned it on LOI weekly too that Mandroiu won't be there next year. What happened between him and the management. There was a twitter joke a few weeks ago about him being "gargled". Has he actually fallen out of favour due to drinking??

[The Lilywhites]

An awful game and advert for the league, although given the kick off time I'm not sure how many would have been watching anyway.

Forgot about the game myself and had missed the goal.

Can't see Rovers throwing it away now. We might catch Bohs for 2nd yet.

[Jack B]

Scales has been absolutely blessed today.

[Martinho II]

Equals our record win, also against Wexford.

We've hit 8 three times in the past five years, and I've missed every one of those games. :rolleyes:

Wexford's keeper was in nets for us when we lost 10-1 in Dalymount last year actually (and 11-0 against Portsmouth)

How come Wexford GK play in goals 4 ye Stu?

[D24Saint]

An awful game and advert for the league, although given the kick off time I'm not sure how many would have been watching anyway.

Forgot about the game myself and had missed the goal.

Can't see Rovers throwing it away now. We might catch Bohs for 2nd yet.

It reckon this behind closed doors experiment has shown how important the fans are to the league. When there is no atmosphere a lot of games seen to have very little tempo, I think the vast majority of the games I've seen have been tripe to watch.

[pineapple stu]

How come Wexford GK play in goals 4 ye Stu?
Cos he was with UCD last year, is the obvious answer!

[Nesta99]

I think all over Europe there could be a greater appreciation for fans and not just TV revenue. The whole package makes football. It must be difficult for players to switch in to competative mode when it feels like a training match. A lot of the games and especially Dundalk have lacked any intensity - some people thing moaning at players during games is discouraging, now it seems more like players need both support and a rocket from supporters too.

[Sonny]

The stonewall peno in the 2nd half was almost on the exact spot where Grace got hit in the face with the ball but conceded a peno when Rovers lost in tallaght a few years ago.
Justice.
Another 3 points closer to the title.

Some seriously short memories when it comes to decisions in the derbies it seems! ;) Think there are a few more ropey decisions to go Rovers' way before it's evened up properly!

[ger121]

That match felt like a Pre-Season friendly not a Dublin Derby. Two awful sides. One capitalised on a terrible piece of defending to score. Not sure what else to say.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Scales has been absolutely blessed today.

Anytime I see Scales he’s rubbish

[Sonny]

Anytime I see Scales he’s rubbish

Very well thought of at Rovers. He's played well in the starts he's had thus far. Had a rocky first half today, but aside from the obvious penalty shout I thought he did very well in the second half.

[Redbull]

Not sure about Scales either.

[Charlie Darwin]

Not sure about Scales either.
Just try weigh it up as best you can.

[sbgawa]

The weight of evidence is in his favour, often proved the tipping point in games that were finely balanced.

[sbgawa]

Sligo can go 3rd with a win against harps today, without the hard to explain loss to cork they could be only 3 points off second.
Complete transformation since the break. Great to see bucko doing well as he always plays a nice brand of football.

[placid casual]

I'm open to correction on this but I believe Rovers are unbeaten in the league in over a year.
Just too good for everyone else in this league.

[The Lilywhites]

I'm open to correction on this but I believe Rovers are unbeaten in the league in over a year.
Just too good for everyone else in this league.

No idea about other games but we beat them on 23 September last year, I'm sure you remember that game, so you pulled your stat out of nowhere.

It's a strange year obviously but Rovers will be the worst champions here in over 20 years. They're so poor for a team with some of the quality players they have.

[placid casual]

It's a strange year obviously but Rovers will be the worst champions here in over 20 years. They're so poor for a team with some of the quality players they have.

I know. Its great isn't it!!

Meanwhile dundalk have taken the most advantageous financial situation in LOI history and managed to completely obliterate itself whilst simultaneously prostituting itself to some gruuby yank who desires a small plaything.
You better dig out the buckets and the bedsheets
Meanwhile Rovers and Bohs will flourish in your absence.

[The Lilywhites]

I'm not happy with our situation either, it's a mess, but we could yet end up in the EL groups this year so who knows.

Anyone predicting Rovers will dominate over the next few years is way wide of the mark. Maybe if they get rid of Bradley, it might help.

I wouldn't be so sure about Bohs flourishing either. They're a bad side too.

[Nesta99]

With 2020 as it has been so far I wouldnt be too quick to assume anything PC even in a wind up manner, tough I can understand the wringing of hands in anticipation after nearly a decade of pure frustration with mediocrity after an EL windfall. We are only a couple of players catching a virus away from the league being halted. Rovers would probably be awarded the title but not the way anyone would want to win a league unless desperate (and we are at this stage!). Prostituting out would imply complicity, as horrible an example as it is, the yanks have more raped the club and damn all could be done about it. Still, a double and being within touching distance of a clean sweep isnt nothing under Peak6, with cup and European games still to go and runners up in the league still up for grabs this year. It's funny how the same things were being said not long after SRFC reached EL groups and ended up selling out the precious fan owned model, LoI clubs dont learn much from eachother and LoI fans all have short and/or selective memory!

[placid casual]

No-one isn't suggesting that dundalk haven't been successful. The question is, at what cost.
Rovers post MON struggled(relatively speaking) for a few years, but the clubs very existence wasn't in jeopardy. Can you honestly say the same about dundalk in its current guise?
Your owners modus operandi is solely based on European money and without wishing to sound dismissive you have 0% chance of getting into the EL stages this year. My guess is you'll struggle against inter, to be honest. What will your flaky owners do then, heh?
Rovers may or may not win the league this year, but the structure of the club is secure and they look like they will challenge again for trophies next year, which as a Rovers fan is all we ask for.

[sbgawa]

I can't disagree with a lot of what u say Nesta. Probably harsh to say rovers could have dominated after the group stages last time as the EL was very much smaller even only 5 years earlier. I think rovers only got 1 million odd compared to dundalks 6 odd as uefa were trying to encourage the bigger clubs to treat the comp seriously.
As regards dundalk qualifying for the group stage, with any kind of luck and keeping green lists etc into account it is a very realistic possibility. Linfield are playing the faroe side that got a walk over and should be in the draw for the 3rd round. The champions path is the only realistic route to group stages. As regards the league 5 points clear with 8 games to go is nothing , I'd rather be ahead then behind but one loss and it's wide open.

[Kingswood Rover]

I know. Its great isn't it!!

Meanwhile dundalk have taken the most advantageous financial situation in LOI history and managed to completely obliterate itself whilst simultaneously prostituting itself to some gruuby yank who desires a small plaything.
You better dig out the buckets and the bedsheets
Meanwhile Rovers and Bohs will flourish in your absence.
ffs and we have been the bastions of financial propriety, be nice.

[Sonny]

No idea about other games but we beat them on 23 September last year, I'm sure you remember that game, so you pulled your stat out of nowhere.

It's a strange year obviously but Rovers will be the worst champions here in over 20 years. They're so poor for a team with some of the quality players they have.

Hook this bitterness up to my veins please! :o I like my cornflakes with extra salt!

[Yossarian]

I chuckled when I heard that stat on eir sport yesterday about Rovers being unbeaten in almost a year. While it may be factually correct, they omitted to mention that with the off season and the covid shutdown there was no football for almost 8 months!
Anyway, if Rovers go on to win the league, they’ll deserve it. Dundalk can only blame ourselves for our self inflicted implosion.

[DCWA]

I chuckled when I heard that stat on eir sport yesterday about Rovers being unbeaten in almost a year. While it may be factually correct, they omitted to mention that with the off season and the covid shutdown there was no football for almost 8 months!


Yet no one else could manage it.

[sbgawa]

Very dissapointing start to Stephen kennys Ireland. Do ubley so as I am convinced that with the talent we have coming through over the next few years and the football Kenny likes to play we could do well. The loi haters and barstoolers will be out in force soon .

[The Lilywhites]

They're already out in force, so much so that there's probably huge pressure already on the Slovakia game, given some of the reaction to the 2 games so far.

Really, it might have been better for Kenny if McCarthy had had the Slovakia/playoff games, but this situation couldn't really be avoided.

If Ireland don't want him we'll take him back please.

[Nesta99]

I can't disagree with a lot of what u say Nesta. Probably harsh to say rovers could have dominated after the group stages last time as the EL was very much smaller even only 5 years earlier. I think rovers only got 1 million odd compared to dundalks 6 odd as uefa were trying to encourage the bigger clubs to treat the comp seriously.
As regards dundalk qualifying for the group stage, with any kind of luck and keeping green lists etc into account it is a very realistic possibility. Linfield are playing the faroe side that got a walk over and should be in the draw for the 3rd round. The champions path is the only realistic route to group stages. As regards the league 5 points clear with 8 games to go is nothing , I'd rather be ahead then behind but one loss and it's wide open.

Ahh I was being narky as PC cut a bit close to the bone. Its a fair point that the money of EL rose massively but in 2010 what Rovers achieved was generally considered (and bemoaned) a game changer and should dominate LoI after. What happened was a turnover of managers, the cost of paying for that eroding the cash reserve, and the club ended up with financial losses. Those losses had to be covered and were by a wealthy Rovers fans but not without any cost. Some luck involved and that there was a fan ownership that would probably prevent something terminal with finances. Its not a safety net that we have at Dundalk if the proverbial hits as we dont currently have either supporter involvement on the board or a supporters club/trust ready to fight the good fight. I think that is poor by Dundalk fans in not being ready (as per 2012) if things nosedive.

In saying that we could well have Peak6 spend and continue to spend going forward. There is currently no change in their committment to the club from day 1, lots of speculation and reading between the lines and indeed plenty of people with 'told ye so' on the tip of the tongue.

I dont think we will get to the EL groups this year, another year we'd be verging on expecting it with the draw. Inter is no gimme but at the same time the club will be in the ball park of 1mil for being rubbish in Europe. It could further whet the appetite of owners as one win changes a whole lot.

I can appreciate how fan owned involvement is held in such importance at Rovers and Cork as best examples. Diluted or not with private investors there is an influence! By the seat of the pants supporting Dundalk but certainly not dull .....

[Nesta99]

I chuckled when I heard that stat on eir sport yesterday about Rovers being unbeaten in almost a year. While it may be factually correct, they omitted to mention that with the off season and the covid shutdown there was no football for almost 8 months!
Anyway, if Rovers go on to win the league, they’ll deserve it. Dundalk can only blame ourselves for our self inflicted implosion.

The joys of ESPN coverage was Kenny never managing outside the RoI - would have bugged even Derry fans;) Co commentator saying a team should play to its strengths and for Ireland that is physical, long ball. Even suggested that Duffy should be moved up top with 5 to go. SK is on a hiding to nothing and has a target on his back after 180mins and 3 or 4 days training. For trying to break with British style footy we can be very British as supporters and media these days!

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Ahh I was being narky as PC cut a bit close to the bone. Its a fair point that the money of EL rose massively but in 2010 what Rovers achieved was generally considered (and bemoaned) a game changer and should dominate LoI after. What happened was a turnover of managers, the cost of paying for that eroding the cash reserve, and the club ended up with financial losses. Those losses had to be covered and were by a wealthy Rovers fans but not without any cost. Some luck involved and that there was a fan ownership that would probably prevent something terminal with finances. Its not a safety net that we have at Dundalk if the proverbial hits as we dont currently have either supporter involvement on the board or a supporters club/trust ready to fight the good fight. I think that is poor by Dundalk fans in not being ready (as per 2012) if things nosedive.

In saying that we could well have Peak6 spend and continue to spend going forward. There is currently no change in their committment to the club from day 1, lots of speculation and reading between the lines and indeed plenty of people with 'told ye so' on the tip of the tongue.

I dont think we will get to the EL groups this year, another year we'd be verging on expecting it with the draw. Inter is no gimme but at the same time the club will be in the ball park of 1mil for being rubbish in Europe. It could further whet the appetite of owners as one win changes a whole lot.

I can appreciate how fan owned involvement is held in such importance at Rovers and Cork as best examples. Diluted or not with private investors there is an influence! By the seat of the pants supporting Dundalk but certainly not dull .....

Are Peak 6 actually spending any money or just dipping into the reserves from the Europa League pot of gold?