EU Constitution

[Macy]

the Nice vote was hijacked by the opposition parties in this country, as cheap shots at bertie. the first was not passed because the opposition lied and said that if we voted yes, we'd become part of an EU military, when in reality, a small donation to a conceptual "rapid reaction force" which would never have been called upon (can you really see north africa or russia launching a ground assault on us without years of build up?) was all that was needed.
The main opposition parties supported Nice both times :rolleyes:

[patsh]

It was their own fault for not educating the people in the first place. The Nice referendum was classic EU- "here's a treaty, go on sign it, its good for you, don't bother asking whats in it, you don't need to know anything, except that its good for you" People say no, so they're treated like kids and told do it again. It was profoundly undemocratic and it is the reason I will never vote in favour of ANY European treaty again. How can you trust a body that ignores what the people say?
It's hardly "classic EU- here's a treaty, go on sign it, its good for you, don't bother asking whats in it, you don't need to know anything, except that its good for you", Eanna, if the government of this country treat the electorate like a mushroom crop.....

[Macy]

It's hardly "classic EU- here's a treaty, go on sign it, its good for you, don't bother asking whats in it, you don't need to know anything, except that its good for you", Eanna, if the government of this country treat the electorate like a mushroom crop.....
Yeah, and the electorates motto should be "If in doubt, vote No".

Most debate on the merits or otherwise of the treaty so far has been the Labour party conference debate, as mentioned enough. The Government haven't bothered their hole informing the people about it...