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DeLorean
27/09/2019, 9:57 AM
Is it Tets that normally creates the match threads? Probably time to do so, 2 weeks out from Georgia.

Here you go. I think the centre back pairing will almost certainly be Long and Egan. Shame Burnley didn't survive a bit longer in the EFL Cup to give Long some extra minutes. Injuries permitting I would expect:

Randolph
Coleman
Long
Egan
Doherty
Whelan (can he play two games in four days, probably not, Cullen might play the one he doesn't)
Hendrick
Hourihane
Robinson
McClean
McGoldrick

Olé Olé
27/09/2019, 10:07 AM
Cheers Del.

I would like to see that team too. I would offer 3 variables further to the Whelan one:
McGoldrick's fitness- is he fit to play zero, one or two of the matches? Time will tell. Collins in if not.
Doherty at left back- will Mick go with it or play someone who is playing there regularly for their club? McClean or Cunningham? Derrick Williams has been partnering Lenihan at centre back for Blackburn of late.
Duffy's fitness- is there an outside chance he might make it? Hopefully but surely unlikely.

If McClean goes left back, it would be great to see Connolly in his old role with Robinson on the right and McGoldrick or Collins through the middle. Unlikely though.

Of those not named in the starting line up above, I would love to see Connolly and Cullen feature. Collins too but he is very likely to.

DeLorean
27/09/2019, 10:24 AM
Yeah, that's more the team I think Mick will select, rather than what I would pick myself. I think we should probably make three or four changes between the two games to keep things fresh - maybe save the line-up above for Geneva. O'Dowda for McClean, Cullen for Whelan, Connolly/Collins for McGoldrick options for Tbilisi alright, but I think Mick will keep it as close to our previous XI's as possible.

Kyle_Katarn
27/09/2019, 10:54 AM
Hopefully if things aren't going our way, Mick won't be afraid to throw on a player like Byrne for the last 20 minutes. He was our most positive player i taught against Bulgaria and I think he deserves a place in the 23. Cant see Georgia scoring against us but they can frustrate us defensively, cant see it been more than a 1 or 2 nil

ifk101
27/09/2019, 10:58 AM
There's clarity of thought, consistency and loyalty in McCarthy's team selections thus far. LB is the only position up for grabs, no?

Olé Olé
27/09/2019, 11:27 AM
There's clarity of thought, consistency and loyalty in McCarthy's team selections thus far. LB is the only position up for grabs, no?
If everyone was fit, then yes. Egan and Long were at the back in the last friendly so I expect to see them there. And there's doubts on McGoldrick.

DeLorean
27/09/2019, 12:52 PM
Agreed. The quick turnaround is the only thing that might test Mick's rigidness a little, but probably not much.

Olé Olé
28/09/2019, 12:25 PM
Manning starts again at left back for QPR. Seems to be left wing back. Another option for us had he been blooded.

I see it as a toss up between Doherty and McClean and it will only be the latter if Mick sees someone in training who can play McClean's position with some semblance of the defensive vigour.

Olé Olé
28/09/2019, 1:59 PM
Not to jinx him but Egan has looked great again today against a top 6 side. He even did a slide tackle with his head!

Olé Olé
28/09/2019, 2:58 PM
Great to see Hourihane and Hendrick starting against one another today in the league. Hourihane is being rewarded for his hot EFL Cup form.

jbyrne
28/09/2019, 6:24 PM
few irish goals today with coleman, doherty and collins all netting. brady came on for burnley and egan played well for sheff utd v liverpool

edit: valvert lewin now credited with everton goal as he finished it over the line

Olé Olé
28/09/2019, 7:00 PM
Brady is an interesting one. Burnley are at home to Everton next weekend. If he started would he be an option to slot in left back? I'm still not fully convinced Mick will put Doherty in there.

samhaydenjr
28/09/2019, 8:27 PM
few irish goals today with coleman, doherty and collins all netting. brady came on for burnley and egan played well for sheff utd v liverpool

edit: valvert lewin now credited with everton goal as he finished it over the line

With McGoldrick an injury doubt, Hogan being dropped and Long only playing garbage minutes, is there a case to be made for in-form Collins to start against Georgia? On top of that, is there a case for a Connolly call-up to the squad, now that he has played the last four Premier League games and two League Cup games? Or should Mick stick with international experience (Long) or remain loyal to a current player (Hogan)?

CraftyToePoke
28/09/2019, 9:11 PM
I'd say with all the changes likely to be forced on him, he will stick wherever possible with lads who know the drills. Happy to be surprised though

Kyle_Katarn
28/09/2019, 10:06 PM
Think he will go with Doherty Left back for the Georgia game, he has experience there and he is probably our best option too. Anyone else and I'd be a bit worried.

Kyle_Katarn
30/09/2019, 12:34 PM
Seems that tickets will be collection over there. A good move i think

zero
30/09/2019, 2:26 PM
With McGoldrick an injury doubt, Hogan being dropped and Long only playing garbage minutes, is there a case to be made for in-form Collins to start against Georgia? On top of that, is there a case for a Connolly call-up to the squad, now that he has played the last four Premier League games and two League Cup games? Or should Mick stick with international experience (Long) or remain loyal to a current player (Hogan)?

I don't want to be too harsh on Hogan but of all the options mentioned he would be my least favourite. He did not make the bench for Stoke on Friday night and does not appear to be injured.

I would suggest that Collins is in the lead to start as the lone striker in Georgia, obviously in the event that McGolddrick is unable.

elatedscum
30/09/2019, 9:39 PM
Seanie Maguire probably deserves to be in the squad if fit. If I was calling up a squad, I would have Long, McGoldrick, Maguire and Collins as my four strikers and Hogan the backup if McGoldrick isn't fit. They're all very different, McGoldrick links up play very well, Collins is a good target and scores goals, Long's physical attributes and his experience are unique, Maguire's both a goalscorer and an intelligent footballer but perhaps the least effective out ball if you're under pressure, more Robbie Keane than Kevin Doyle if you get me. Hogan is fast but not that fast, strong but not that strong, decent finisher when confident but technically not the greatest footballer.

McGoldrick's position to lose I guess. Long's pace, strength and aerial ability make him valuable, at the very least off the bench. Collins and Maguire both have decent club scoring form. Collins has the advantage of an international goal but Maguire is perhaps the better footballer of the two.

I think who I would pick, would depend on the midfield in front of me.

Olé Olé
30/09/2019, 10:50 PM
I think McGoldrick or Collins is 9. I reckon Maguire comes in for Robinson if we want to change approach for a goal. And I am worried that Maguire doesn't develop an international goalscoring nack until he starts clocking up more international appearances. I reckon Maguire won't get a shot with Mick but Kenny will initially give him a better chance.

elatedscum
30/09/2019, 11:27 PM
I think McGoldrick or Collins is 9. I reckon Maguire comes in for Robinson if we want to change approach for a goal. And I am worried that Maguire doesn't develop an international goalscoring nack until he starts clocking up more international appearances. I reckon Maguire won't get a shot with Mick but Kenny will initially give him a better chance.

I wouldn't disagree, saying that, if you are going to play Maguire in any game, the Georgia one is probably the one he would be most likely to succeed in. No guarantees but we should dominate a bit more than we would against Denmark or Switzerland. And you should get a little more time on the ball in the final third, which he should be able to exploit. I'm happy to sit on the fence until the squad have met up. For all we know, Danny Ings could get injured in training and Shane Long scores a hat trick against Chelsea ;)

In terms of Kenny, Maguire struggled when signing for Dundalk, which isn't a great sign - but I suppose McMillan and Kilduff were banging in goals, so it's hard to replace them.

I feel it's probably a little too soon for Connolly, Obafemi or Parrott. Between the three of them they have 3 senior goals. You'd be asking a lot to expect them to come in and positively impact a game where you need a result.

mark12345
30/09/2019, 11:42 PM
I wouldn't disagree, saying that, if you are going to play Maguire in any game, the Georgia one is probably the one he would be most likely to succeed in. No guarantees but we should dominate a bit more than we would against Denmark or Switzerland. And you should get a little more time on the ball in the final third, which he should be able to exploit. I'm happy to sit on the fence until the squad have met up. For all we know, Danny Ings could get injured in training and Shane Long scores a hat trick against Chelsea ;)

In terms of Kenny, Maguire struggled when signing for Dundalk, which isn't a great sign - but I suppose McMillan and Kilduff were banging in goals, so it's hard to replace them.

I feel it's probably a little too soon for Connolly, Obafemi or Parrott. Between the three of them they have 3 senior goals. You'd be asking a lot to expect them to come in and positively impact a game where you need a result.

Ya think we'll dominate Georgia a bit more than the other two? I think you are highly optimistic. In fact they dominated Denmark a few weeks ago. They completely dominated us in the last campaign and did ok in Dublin again this campaign. We will be our typical selves in Tiblisi. Launch it long and hope to win the aerial battles and knockdowns.

mark12345
30/09/2019, 11:48 PM
Brady is an interesting one. Burnley are at home to Everton next weekend. If he started would he be an option to slot in left back? I'm still not fully convinced Mick will put Doherty in there.

Me neither. Brady is a decent left-back option but I think my prediction of a few years ago that James McClean would make a good left-back for Ireland will come to fruition.

CraftyToePoke
01/10/2019, 12:52 AM
I think Georgia will be happy enough in a game of football against us too, they were very impressive v Denmark at times and for a sustained half hour as the game finished. Collins over Maguire for me, they wont like that side of us, and a hideous 0-1 however its achieved will be fine. I'm not saying hack it away all game, but the Collins option will unsettle them more.

Olé Olé
01/10/2019, 7:07 AM
https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/scouting-report-mccarthy-impressed-with-deluge-of-club-goals

Mick is in positive form. 4 central midfielders referenced. You'd imagine he'll retain the same three but does view Cullen as a viable option in case of injury or in case of tiredness relating to the same three.

jbyrne
01/10/2019, 7:54 AM
Ya think we'll dominate Georgia a bit more than the other two? I think you are highly optimistic. In fact they dominated Denmark a few weeks ago.

the official stats from the game would say otherwise.... possession 61%/39%, shots 12/7 and corners 9/2 all in Denmarks favour

Kyle_Katarn
01/10/2019, 11:38 AM
https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2808&stc=1

Closed Account
01/10/2019, 11:38 AM
Republic of Ireland Squad:Goalkeepers:
Darren Randolph (Middlesbrough),
Mark Travers (AFC Bournemouth),
Kieran O’Hara (Burton Albion, on loan from Manchester United)

Defenders:
Seamus Coleman (Everton),
Matt Doherty (Wolverhampton Wanderers),
Kevin Long (Burnley),
John Egan (Sheffield United),
Darragh Lenihan (Blackburn Rovers),
Greg Cunningham (Blackburn Rovers),
Enda Stevens (Sheffield United)


Midfielders:
Alan Browne (Preston North End),
Josh Cullen (Charlton Athletic, on loan from West Ham United),
Glenn Whelan (Heart of Midlothian),
Conor Hourihane (Aston Villa),
James McClean (Stoke City),
Ronan Curtis (Portsmouth),
Jeff Hendrick (Burnley),
Callum O’Dowda (Bristol City),
Jack Byrne (Shamrock Rovers),
Alan Judge (Ipswich Town)

Forwards:
James Collins (Luton Town),
Sean Maguire (Preston North End),
Callum Robinson (Sheffield United)
Scott Hogan (Stoke City, on loan from Aston Villa)

DannyInvincible
01/10/2019, 11:39 AM
Squad announced.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFyQmj-WsAA6Y0a.jpg

No place for Ryan Manning, despite his impressive start to the season at left-back for QPR. McGoldrick is injured, along with Duffy and Keogh obviously. Brady misses out too. No place for Long or Obafemi either. Do we have the luxury to be leaving players like that out? The squad is seriously lacking strength in depth.

Kyle_Katarn
01/10/2019, 11:45 AM
Squad announced......
No place for Ryan Manning, despite his impressive start to the season at left-back for QPR. McGoldrick is injured, along with Duffy and Keogh obviously. Brady misses out too. No place for Long or Obafemi either. Do we have the luxury to be leaving players like that out? The squad is seriously lacking strength in depth.

Seems such a wasted opportunity not to call up Cunningham and have him play at left back v Bulgaria. playing Hourihane was a massive waste of Time

ifk101
01/10/2019, 11:57 AM
Depressing. Difficult to see where or how we'll score a goal with that squad selection. Hendrick has to have big games, and Robinson needs to take a leap forward and put his stamp on the team. Zero confidence in Colllins or Hogan leading the line, Long is far the better option. Think McCarthy could have cut Judge loose, and possibly Curtis.

paul_oshea
01/10/2019, 12:09 PM
really dont get the Long omission. Hogan is nowhere near the player and has had the chances to prove himself too. Long has pace which none of the others have and if we're holding on in either game(either a win in georgia or a draw in Switzerland) there is no better man to come on and run at them and relieve pressure.

The squads smack of Old Mick. Which really used to **** me off.

DeLorean
01/10/2019, 12:47 PM
You mean Young Mick? :)

Olé Olé
01/10/2019, 12:48 PM
This craic with players playing regularly is an odd one. Curtis and Judge are regulars at League One level. Whelan is a regular at SPL level. Connolly, Obafemi, McCarthy, Long and Brady all have PL appearances and are seemingly not picked because they aren't regulars. Is it that important a consideration for international football?

third policeman
01/10/2019, 12:49 PM
really dont get the Long omission. Hogan is nowhere near the player and has had the chances to prove himself too. Long has pace which none of the others have and if we're holding on in either game(either a win in georgia or a draw in Switzerland) there is no better man to come on and run at them and relieve pressure.

The squads smack of Old Mick. Which really used to **** me off.

Absolutely. Judge's inclusion is absolutely incomprehensible as is the omission of Long and Obafemi. The latter is still raw, but his pace and the exquisite pass to Ings the other week, suggest the ability to offer a threat. Mick has settled on his squad, and at this stage there is no way he will call into questions his own judgement - of his Judge for that matter.

Olé Olé
01/10/2019, 1:17 PM
This craic with players playing regularly is an odd one. Curtis and Judge are regulars at League One level. Whelan is a regular at SPL level. Connolly, Obafemi, McCarthy, Long and Brady all have PL appearances and are seemingly not picked because they aren't regulars. Is it that important a consideration for international football?
I would like to state that I am not referring to the players' merits on an individual basis. I would rather Whelan in midfield instead of McCarthy- at present.

elatedscum
01/10/2019, 2:02 PM
I think it’s mad not having Ciaran Clark in the squad. Lenihan has had 2 very very shaky friendlies for ireland. I remember against both the USA and NornIron there were howler mistakes which didn’t cost us. Getting caught in possession / a slip against the states and an underhit pass or backpass which both led to 1 on 1s. He may be a player you want to embed into the squad in the medium term but if there’s an injury to Egan or Long, then I’d much much rather Ciaran Clark’s experience to slot in in a tight game.

Don’t really understand the point of Cunningham in the squad. I’d rather Doherty or Brady at left back, cause he hasn’t impressed internationally or the few games he played in the premier league. So yeah, no Brady, same thing. I’d actually play Christie on the left ahead of him too.

Arter, McCarthy and Westwood all still absent. I guess that’s Mick rather than them this time.

Shane Long is pretty infuriating, especially considering McGoldrick is injured. Shane has a unique skill set and I think if Mick worked with him in training once, he’d see that.

Not sure Ronan Curtis is ready for the level yet. Probably needs some championship football cause he’s still raw. Michael Duffy would probably give you more than him right now.

Anyway, not exactly an inspiring squad.

For Georgia, I would hope he plays

Randolph

Coleman
Egan
Long
Doherty

Cullen
Hourihane
Hendrick

Robinson
McClean

Maguire/Collins? Not sure

jbyrne
01/10/2019, 2:03 PM
McCarthy not ruling McGoldrick or Duffy out yet it appears

Fixer82
01/10/2019, 3:20 PM
Have we seen the last of Keiren Westwood?

Fixer82
01/10/2019, 3:22 PM
Absolutely. Judge's inclusion is absolutely incomprehensible .

I think setting up the goal against Denmark and bursting back to stop a certain goal against Switzerland warrants him a place in the squad.

DannyInvincible
01/10/2019, 4:19 PM
This craic with players playing regularly is an odd one. Curtis and Judge are regulars at League One level. Whelan is a regular at SPL level. Connolly, Obafemi, McCarthy, Long and Brady all have PL appearances and are seemingly not picked because they aren't regulars. Is it that important a consideration for international football?

It's just a tired and lazy excuse that Mick uses to explain away the omission of some players, but it's riddled with inconsistency, as you point out.

I'd been hopeful Aaron Connolly might have been given a chance - as he has had game-time of late with Brighton and would certainly offer something different again - but Mick's odd comments on his omission wouldn't inspire one with any confidence that he's even been keeping an eye on the lad.

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Razors left peg
01/10/2019, 5:20 PM
The only thing that makes that squad palatable is knowing that it is temporary and better things are in future.

Fergie's Son
01/10/2019, 9:30 PM
A long shot but does anyone have an idea of a venue that might be showing the match in Kassel, Germany? Thanks!

elatedscum
01/10/2019, 10:09 PM
Mick, Terry and Robbie were definitely at the Armenia game. He was man of the match, playing wide left. I assume it was just a slip of the tongue.

If you ignore the players who have been left out, which are truly baffling and glaring lack of forethought at times, it's been a pretty good campaign for Mick so far.

Improved performances, improved results. I certainly would have taken this before the group started.

@Fergie RE Germany. Last time i tried to watch a game in germany (denmark v ireland world cup play off 1st leg) it was being shown on DAZN, which is a web based streaming channel. they do a free one month subscription. i can try find out what it's on this time if you can't... if you know it's on DAZN, the venues will generally be pretty accommodating as well. i similarly got a pub to use my DAZN account to play Liverpool against Spurs cause my internet wasn't fast enough where i was staying

Diggs246
01/10/2019, 10:41 PM
I think it’s mad not having Ciaran Clark in the squad. Lenihan has had 2 very very shaky friendlies for ireland. I remember against both the USA and NornIron there were howler mistakes which didn’t cost us. Getting caught in possession / a slip against the states and an underhit pass or backpass which both led to 1 on 1s. He may be a player you want to embed into the squad in the medium term but if there’s an injury to Egan or Long, then I’d much much rather Ciaran Clark’s experience to slot in in a tight game.

Don’t really understand the point of Cunningham in the squad. I’d rather Doherty or Brady at left back, cause he hasn’t impressed internationally or the few games he played in the premier league. So yeah, no Brady, same thing. I’d actually play Christie on the left ahead of him too.

Arter, McCarthy and Westwood all still absent. I guess that’s Mick rather than them this time.

Shane Long is pretty infuriating, especially considering McGoldrick is injured. Shane has a unique skill set and I think if Mick worked with him in training once, he’d see that.

Not sure Ronan Curtis is ready for the level yet. Probably needs some championship football cause he’s still raw. Michael Duffy would probably give you more than him right now.

Anyway, not exactly an inspiring squad.

For Georgia, I would hope he plays

Randolph

Coleman
Egan
Long
Doherty

Cullen
Hourihane
Hendrick

Robinson
McClean

Maguire/Collins? Not sure

I think mcLean played left back last night against Huddersfield. That might put the chat amongst the pigeons

samhaydenjr
03/10/2019, 2:19 AM
Depressing. Difficult to see where or how we'll score a goal with that squad selection. Hendrick has to have big games, and Robinson needs to take a leap forward and put his stamp on the team. Zero confidence in Colllins or Hogan leading the line, Long is far the better option. Think McCarthy could have cut Judge loose, and possibly Curtis.

In fairness Collins has scored 159 senior club goals and has been scoring at a rate of about a goal every two games for the past three and a bit seasons - admittedly mostly at a lower level, but he has stepped up to Championship level well and has more goals than Bamford now - plus it took him only 28 minutes to open his international account so like Mick's decision to put his faith in McGoldrick, I have a feeling about Collins - I think he may be the sort of guy who should have been playing at a higher level all along, but didn't commit fully... now he has and is starting to achieve his potential, which is good for us.

Olé Olé
03/10/2019, 6:12 AM
I think mcLean played left back last night against Huddersfield. That might put the chat amongst the pigeons
He's been playing there all season. Mick referencing that Connolly wouldn't get in ahead of McClean implies to me that he still sees McClean as a valuable asset on the left wing though.

tetsujin1979
03/10/2019, 9:27 AM
Georgian squad named: http://gff.ge/ge/media/news/19203


Goalkeepers: Giorgi Loria (Anorthosis, Cyprus), Giorgi Makaridze (Vittoria, Setubal, Portugal), Lazar Kupatadze (Saburtalo, Tbilisi)

Defenders: Otar Kakabadze (Lucerne, Switzerland), Guram Kashia (San Jose Uniforms, USA), Solomon Kverkvelia (Lokomotive, Moscow, Russia), David Khocholava (Shakhtar, Donetsk, Ukraine), Gia Grigalula (Arsene), Rusenali, Arsene Jimmy Tabidze (Ufa, Russia), Giorgi Navalovski (Dinamo, Batumi)

Midfielders: Jaba Kankava (Tobol, Kazakhstan), Otar Kiteishvili (Sturm, Austria), Vako Gvilia (Legia, Poland), Saba Lobzhanidze (Randers, Denmark), Vakhtang Chanturishvili (Zlin, Czech Republic), Giorgi Aburjandia (Twain) Jano Ananidze (Spartak, Moscow, Russia), Tornike Okriashvili, Murtaz Daushvili (both Anorthosis, Cyprus), Levan Shengelia (Konyaspor, Turkey), Giorgi Kharaishvili (Gothenburg, Sweden), Valeri Kazaishvili (ertkveiksi San Jose, US)

Forwards: Giorgi Quilitaia (Ghent, Belgium), Elguja Lobjanidze (Taraz, Kazakhstan)

Also, the following players are on standby

Levan Gegechkori, Jaba Jigauri (Dinamo, Batumi), Lasha Parunashvili (Esbjerg, Denmark), Luka Zarandia (Zulte-Waregem, Belgium), Giorgi Merebashvili (Wisla, Plotsky, Poland), Budu Zivzivadze (Mesokovesti, L) Dinamo Tbilisi)

jbyrne
03/10/2019, 1:39 PM
very refreshing attitude by the club here...
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/1003/1080878-we-think-hes-going-to-travel-didzy-boost-for-irish/

mark12345
03/10/2019, 1:42 PM
I think mcLean played left back last night against Huddersfield. That might put the chat amongst the pigeons

Set up to attack. Use the wings as much as possible. The tone of this game is important. If we sit back they'll control 80 per cent of possession.
Would like to see Byrne in the starting eleven to control the play in midfield, but it will never happen.

Randolph

Coleman Egan Cunningham

Doherty Hendrick Browne/Cullen McClean


Maguire Collins Robinson

mark12345
03/10/2019, 1:48 PM
It would be time well spent in Tiblisi to put a man marker on their playmaker (forget his name but he's a small Hagi type player in the middle of the park who controls everything for them).
To my mind it would be a job for Alan Browne or Josh Cullen.