Cork AUL Premier & Premier A 2019/20

[Play it out]

People are saying that Blarney Street have a Premier standard squad, others are saying it's experienced heads.

What are people's thoughts on them, should they start in third no matter what?

[latte2012]

People are saying that Blarney Street have a Premier standard squad, others are saying it's experienced heads.

What are people's thoughts on them, should they start in third no matter what?

No point them going third division really is there? Hard to know what the fairest thing to do is with teams of that quality reforming.

[Beansontoast]

You cant put them straight into the premier league either. You have to earn that. When Glen Celtic came back a few years ago where were they put?

[fruice]

The Glen were put in the first Division and when Cloughduv came from the West Cork League they went Second division.

[Play it out]

I don't envy the AUL on that decision but I think below should decide it.

Grattan B, Greenmount & Harp Celtic all seem to have good numbers and decent players so with them all forming I would say enter Blarney Street in the third division and fight it out over the year to see who earns trophies and promotion.

If I was the likes of Watergrasshill, I'd have planned to challenge this year prior to their entry so hopefully a couple of those third division sides are strong too.

Who is in first division and second division is also very interesting while the Premier could be stacked with serious quality from the northside and a very strong Coachford. If covered well, it could be a very good AUL product for the season ahead. Lockdown seems to have given many a new lease of life.

I see Niall Reardon has taken over at Cathedral, wonder will he have many ex Leeview/Casement seniors.

Any more word on Shandon Celtic reforming?

[Dr. football]

Best in a long time lads.. just heard while ago from a guy living in the northside who was told by a Glen Celtic player that a former manager of them is trying to force the club to get rid of the current managers and give him the job!!. He walked out last year thinking the club couldn't manage without him and now has his son - the captain, trying to turn players heads. Unreal if true!! This is AFTER the glen have already appointed the managers for next year!! Nothing surprises me anymore. 😀😀

Confirmed on Glen Celtics Facebook page this evening.

[Dr. football]

People are saying that Blarney Street have a Premier standard squad, others are saying it's experienced heads.

What are people's thoughts on them, should they start in third no matter what?

How can People comment on how strong they are when they haven’t even gone back training.

[Play it out]

Word of mouth, managers and players chatting, etc.

[SteveSilvermint]

Word of mouth, managers and players chatting, etc.seeing is believing but they will be strong.

[fruice]

Are Harp going AUL?

But clubs coming to the 3rd division stacked with premier quality players because things didn’t go according to plan a few years back makes a fool’s of the teams down in the 3rd division.
They are only acting as cannon fodder

Just in the example of Blarney Street because this is the team that it concerns now had they managed to keep it going and had a weaker team for a few seasons the very worst they would now be is 2nd division and even at that they would be higher than that as some seasons there was no relegation because teams moving MSL.

You look at what the Glen did when they came back they had no problem winning a first division and were going well in the premier a last year what beatings would they have handed out in the 2nd and 3rd divisions if they were put down there.

What benefit would that have been to the Glen and even more so their opponents.

The same thing will happen if a premier stacked Blarney St are down there.

[Pass pass pass]

Its a difficult one for the aul too be fair. If its all the lads they had before they finished up they are in there mid 30s first division much like the glen that time would be a fair league given the standard that team would be at youd have 5 or 6 dropping down from premier and the rest havent been seen since they were gone at a decent level. Surely we are looking at only 4 leagues aswell with the numbers left.

[Beansontoast]

Looks like your info was on the ball Jake. Heard while ago Paul Corcoran is the manager of Glen Celtic this year. Neither of the 2 outgoing lads could work with him im told so are gone from the club completely. Should be a strong league with the Glen, Grattan old guard , Coachford youngsters, Bohs , Village, etc

[fruice]

It will be interesting to see how they restructure the league’s as obviously there was no promotion or relegation due to Covid but they have lost at least 5 clubs
Across the divisions so will need to move clubs up along to fill sections.

You could see roughly 5 divisions of 10 or there abouts

[JaketheSnake]

Looks like your info was on the ball Jake. Heard while ago Paul Corcoran is the manager of Glen Celtic this year. Neither of the 2 outgoing lads could work with him im told so are gone from the club completely. Should be a strong league with the Glen, Grattan old guard , Coachford youngsters, Bohs , Village, etc

I heard there was a vote and the existing management were voted out? I don't think that the incoming management team wanted to work with the outgoing management team anyway?

[Beansontoast]

Perfect scenario so. :ball:

[Dr. football]

Any updates on knocka? Will they have a team? If so for they actually lose many? Will they be as strong as years gone by?

[Pass pass pass]

Any updates on knocka? Will they have a team? If so for they actually lose many? Will they be as strong as years gone by?

Taking a year out couldnt get a manager i was told.

[Dr. football]

Taking a year out couldnt get a manager i was told.

Sad to hear hopefully do a glen Celtic and come back stronger then ever.

[latte2012]

Macroom have also gone MSL I see.

[SteveSilvermint]

Macroom have also gone MSL I see.

Should be a very open season in all league's with all this going .

[JaketheSnake]

Should be a very open season in all league's with all this going .

Innishvilla , Macroom , Pearse confirmed as gone from Premier. Knocknaheeny possibly gone . Buttevant gone from Prem A and maybe City Wanderers ( do anyone know if they were accepted to MSL?) . 6 teams gone out of 20 between Prem and Prem A . 30% of your top two divisions gone is a joke.

Who would go Prem ? Glen Celtic, Village , Temple and Greenwood? There would be 4 teams left in Prem A from last year then (if City Wanderers confirmed as gone)

Should the AUL just abandon the Prem A?

[Dr. football]

Innishvilla , Macroom , Pearse confirmed as gone from Premier. Knocknaheeny possibly gone . Buttevant gone from Prem A and maybe City Wanderers ( do anyone know if they were accepted to MSL?) . 6 teams gone out of 20 between Prem and Prem A . 30% of your top two divisions gone is a joke.

Who would go Prem ? Glen Celtic, Village , Temple and Greenwood? There would be 4 teams left in Prem A from last year then (if City Wanderers confirmed as gone)

Should the AUL just abandon the Prem A?

Looks like city wanders staying.

You have 3 very good teams in corkbeg, Springfield and Donoughmore who will be good enough( on last years sides). Not sure about the rest in the 1st division

[Play it out]

This taking a year out is ******, these teams don't deserve to go back in the higher divisions if that happens going forward again.

Knocka have done absolutely fantastic work to go from third up to Prem, if they go out then they should start at division three again however.

Glen Celtic went into division one, won the double. Would have done the same in third. Make them work for it through the years to get back up.

[SteveSilvermint]

This taking a year out is ******, these teams don't deserve to go back in the higher divisions if that happens going forward again.

Knocka have done absolutely fantastic work to go from third up to Prem, if they go out then they should start at division three again however.

Glen Celtic went into division one, won the double. Would have done the same in third. Make them work for it through the years to get back up.

You can't Keep everyone happy ..if they have a quality squad ther shouting no point in div 2 or 3 they walk it then if there put in div 1 it's a joke let them earn it

[fruice]

I can’t figure the year out stuff either are these guys going to gi from playing at the top level to taking a year out doesn’t add up.
Where do these players go in the mean time?

There has to be a reason for teams not to leave be it a points deduction if you return with in a set time frame.

Going to be some restructuring of divisions.
8 out for 4 in.

[Beansontoast]

Continued exodus of top teams from the Aul each year, standard is gone way down. Gone are the days you really had to earn your silverware by beating numerous top teams. Based on last year , Coachford are the team to beat - and im told they will be next to leave AUL next year. They were too late applying this season. Be the weakest Prem in a long time.

[SteveSilvermint]

Continued exodus of top teams from the Aul each year, standard is gone way down. Gone are the days you really had to earn your silverware by beating numerous top teams. Based on last year , Coachford are the team to beat - and im told they will be next to leave AUL next year. They were too late applying this season. Be the weakest Prem in a long time.
Premier won't be easy but the lower league could turn out that way .

[Beansontoast]

Yes, May not be easy but quality dropping year on year as best teams and players leave!

[SteveSilvermint]

Yes, May not be easy but quality dropping year on year as best teams and players leave!

Sure it's only a game of ball.. junior football ..of course you want to win to but it is what it is .

[fruice]

What do lads think about what’s happening with GAA clubs across the county having to stand teams down for short periods of time due to potential Covid Cases.

The issues are going to arise when the AUL resumes might not have the same impact as AUL is played on a league basis as opposed to knockout.

Will definitely lead to a longer season.

Also hearing the AUL have 49 teams this year vs 52 starting last year.
Down 3 in total

[Play it out]

I think lads should have to self isolate after returning from holidays or else get a test to speed up their return. Same for symptom based risk.
I can see some teams having to do the same as GAA as time goes on and games getting called off but it looks like a necessary step.

Would have been handy if we had returned two weeks earlier to get some night games in. Praying for a vaccine ASAP. For many like me, a lot of the week revolves around football so here's hoping it works out.

Any word on a Prem A or not?

[SteveSilvermint]

I think lads should have to self isolate after returning from holidays or else get a test to speed up their return. Same for symptom based risk.
I can see some teams having to do the same as GAA as time goes on and games getting called off but it looks like a necessary step.

Would have been handy if we had returned two weeks earlier to get some night games in. Praying for a vaccine ASAP. For many like me, a lot of the week revolves around football so here's hoping it works out.

Any word on a Prem A or not?
So safe to say if you have a game and your pulling a stunt all you say is wev a few lads self isolating can't field a team ..aul will have to be very strong on rules .

[fruice]

From what I’ve heard there will be a prem A.

Ya that is a concern for the aul of clubs trying to pull a stunt re players social isolating.

There will be knock on implications one would think particularly if any other team will have to self isolate as a result.
There will be contacting tracing etc.

You would feel if any club was found guilty of try to pull a fast one a points deduction or a fine should be in place to deter them from doing so.

Obviously there will be occasions where teams will have to stand down for a period of time over a potential Covid case and clubs should be encouraged to stand down immediately if they have a suspected case.

This will be a big job for the Aul

[Dr. football]

Does the 49 teams include knocka?

I see temple are entering “b” team this year

[fruice]

I asked about knocka and he didn’t think they were one of the teams gone but he wasn’t 100% sure.

Temple B could be the 50th team they were hoping to get one more team to make 50

[CBL20]

Harp Celtic join the CBL:

https://corkbusinessleague.ie/2020/07/16/harp-celtic-launch-new-cbl-club/ (https://corkbusinessleague.ie/2020/07/16/harp-celtic-launch-new-cbl-club/)

[latte2012]

Seems to real hunger for lads to play ball this season. From the few pre season games I’ve taken in I think the standard appears quite good. A lot teams seem to have big squads and others like temple, Greenwood and Coachford entering second teams. I think the few months locked up at home might be one of the best things that happened to junior football. Think it could be a great season providing we don’t all have to isolate again for months!

[SteveSilvermint]

Harp Celtic join the CBL:

https://corkbusinessleague.ie/2020/07/16/harp-celtic-launch-new-cbl-club/ (https://corkbusinessleague.ie/2020/07/16/harp-celtic-launch-new-cbl-club/)
Harp to belly up in 2 years.

[Beansontoast]

Is there really a need to post that silver mint? Stupid comment on a new club. Give them a break.

[SteveSilvermint]

Is there really a need to post that silver mint? Stupid comment on a new club. Give them a break.

It's on the same level of comment your trowing up about established clubs friend.

[Beansontoast]

No where near fella. My comments were on a general dip in standards and quality in Aul. You've named one team and personalised your comment. Not nice or needed but you have form in this after reading past posts. Best say nothing rather than post this stuff.

[the 12 th man]

Lads,the Cork Premier thread normally gets suspended/binned for rubbish posts similar to a few of the last posts on this thread,don't let this one suffer the same fate before a ball is kicked.

[Beansontoast]

Agreed 12th man, just didn't see the point in picking on a new club for no reason. I'll leave him off in future.

[SteveSilvermint]

Best in a long time lads.. just heard while ago from a guy living in the northside who was told by a Glen Celtic player that a former manager of them is trying to force the club to get rid of the current managers and give him the job!!. He walked out last year thinking the club couldn't manage without him and now has his son - the captain, trying to turn players heads. Unreal if true!! This is AFTER the glen have already appointed the managers for next year!! Nothing surprises me anymore. 😀😀
I find this post to be one of the worse..just saying

[Beansontoast]

And one of the most accurate. Dogs in the street know and you be very close to that club mint😉

[SteveSilvermint]

And one of the most accurate. Dogs in the street know and you be very close to that club mint😉

You know it all ...that post is inaccurate in the most not all but most as you know it came back to haunt.

[Beansontoast]

??? Dont follow that one.

[SteveSilvermint]

??? Dont follow that one.
On that note we leave it there and talk football...covid 19 is not the only virus out there.

[Beansontoast]

That's a deal. ⚽️⚽️

[SteveSilvermint]

That's a deal. ⚽️⚽️

Good man.:ball::ball::ball:.