FAI Cup games

[seand]

In fairness to Rovers they'll finish 10-15 points ahead of where they did last season. This'll be their first top two finish in 8 years. Their defence is better, their attack is better. Moving slowly in the right direction. There's still a big step up to Dundalk, at the minute though, IMO.

[Kingswood Rover]

Really ? Would have thought that would be anathema to shams “hard core” (considering some of them thought Keith Longs job was in jeopardy after the most recent derby game 😁).
Given the resources invested And a relatively poor league (Cork and Waterford collapse, Pats HK implosion) I would expect better.

Anything less than sub 10 point finish and (at least) a cup final surely a very poor return ?
I called it at the start of the season being within 10 of Dundalk and i stand by what i said, finishing with more points and higher up the table is progress. i think we now play decent ball and you can see the team being improved throughout the season, Dan Carr being moved on and Laverty coming in. We are not a million miles away but need to be pushing all the way next year.

[marinobohs]

In fairness to Rovers they'll finish 10-15 points ahead of where they did last season. This'll be their first top two finish in 8 years. Their defence is better, their attack is better. Moving slowly in the right direction. There's still a big step up to Dundalk, at the minute though, IMO.
I don’t think it’s a strong division this year. Cat think of any team that’s better this than last (maybe shams, slightly). Bohs no better than last year and most others are worse !

[Nesta99]

I don’t think it’s a strong division this year. Cat think of any team that’s better this than last (maybe shams, slightly). Bohs no better than last year and most others are worse !

Same is said every year! This year though I can see the argument that Waterford and Cork have disimproved, But Derry and Shamrock Rovers are on an upward trajectory and Sligo are getting wins at home this season. Pats have been meh considering preseason expectations jumping to league challangers. There have been for nearly every season of the last 6 or 7 a side completely cut loose at the bottom. Going in to next season the top 4 four will be more competative in general. Shels will be an improvement on UCD. We will have to see what happens during the close season to before starting to predict how close the top two will be and whether keeping pace over a whole season with Dundalk is likely though just getting over the Dublin Derby hoodoo will narrow the gap for Rovers.

[hoopy]

Hope Bohs get the 'issues' sorted the next couple of days regarding the tickets for the semi. Rovers would have been expecting to have them for the Pats game on Friday.

[seand]

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The club cannot confirm away ticketing arrangements for next week's semi final until a number of issues raised with @bfcdublin and @FAIreland have been resolved.


Nice cryptic tweet from Rovers just now

[dublinred]

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The club cannot confirm away ticketing arrangements for next week's semi final until a number of issues raised with @bfcdublin and @FAIreland have been resolved.


Nice cryptic tweet from Rovers just now

Aviva ?

[Asterix]

Aviva ?


Probably to do with bohs letting their members show up on the night without a ticket and paying 10€ instead of 15 €.

[Dalymountrower]

Probably to do with bohs letting their members show up on the night without a ticket and paying 10€ instead of 15 €.

€5 per member is deducted from the Bohs " cut", after the FAI have brown paper bagged theirs .

Not sure what the hold up is on the away tickets, presumably something to do with the Gardai having the final say on how many away fans they can "police"? Would have no problem having it in Tallaght as Garda management down there seem to be a lot more reasonable than our friends in Mountjoy GS

[marinobohs]

Probably to do with bohs letting their members show up on the night without a ticket and paying 10€ instead of 15 €.

Bohs members all in the Jodi, shams in Des Kelly.
Bohs members access has nothing to do with shams allocation. None of shams business as their cut of gate (and that of FAI) is covered.

[Kingswood Rover]

Bohs members all in the Jodi, shams in Des Kelly.
Bohs members access has nothing to do with shams allocation. None of shams business as their cut of gate (and that of FAI) is covered.
Any chance, even a snowballs in hells of getting the capacity up just for this game Marino.

[Eminence Grise]

Should make for one elk of an atmosphere.

Well, you've got nothing to moose.

[Dalymountrower]

Well, you've got nothing to moose.
FAI Cup thread.Caribou cup threads elsewhere.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

I don’t think it’s a strong division this year. Cat think of any team that’s better this than last (maybe shams, slightly). Bohs no better than last year and most others are worse !

We are way better then we were last year. As are Derry. Shams have definitely made progress.

[sbgawa]

We are way better then we were last year. As are Derry. Shams have definitely made progress.

I would also say Harps and UCD are better than Limerick and Bray this year.

[seand]

I would also say Harps and UCD are better than Limerick and Bray this year.

Damning with faint praise there, I feel!

[sbgawa]

Faint praise is better than none at all :)

[marinobohs]

We are way better then we were last year. As are Derry. Shams have definitely made progress.
Yet Bohs, who you don’t mention are ahead of two of them and shams only second because of huge increase in budget and Cork implosion 😁 wow.

[sbgawa]

You actually said yourself that bohs were no better than last year.....do u disagree with yourself?

[marinobohs]

You actually said yourself that bohs were no better than last year.....do u disagree with yourself?

Nope,I don’t believe Bohs are better than last season therefor how can Derry Sligo etc have improved so much ? Is the table wrong ?
Thought that was pretty simple ?

[sbgawa]

Id be inclined to believe the Sligo fan (Nah Nah Nah) that sees them every week as well as the few times i have seen them that Sligo have improved.
Derry have definitely improved , didn't qualify for Europe last year but will probably do it this year, they have 5 points more now then finished with last year with 6 matches to go.
Sligo will also finish with more points so no the table is not wrong......it is pretty simple.

[Charlie Darwin]

I can't remember the last time the general consensus hasn't been that the league has gotten worse. It must have been ****ing brilliant in the 80s.

[sbgawa]

It was :)

[Ezeikial]

The 70's were mega

[marinobohs]

Id be inclined to believe the Sligo fan (Nah Nah Nah) that sees them every week as well as the few times i have seen them that Sligo have improved.
Derry have definitely improved , didn't qualify for Europe last year but will probably do it this year, they have 5 points more now then finished with last year with 6 matches to go.
Sligo will also finish with more points so no the table is not wrong......it is pretty simple.
All season we've been told Dundalk not as good yet they are romping away with the League (shams have even surrendered 😂) won the League cup and well placed to win the treble. Bohs have been so injury hit they brought on a 14 year old last night- still 3rd in the table.UCD hit for 7 and 10.
Even Bradser has managed to stagger into 2nd place 🙄 (although good that shams have given up whining about "the project")

Yep, a vintage season.

[Ezeikial]

Yet Bohs, who you don’t mention are ahead of two of them and shams only second because of huge increase in budget and Cork implosion  wow.

If anyone has any doubts about this - Cork had 67 points after 31 games last season and finished the season on 77 points. While Rovers have made some progress, their current points total would have had them trailing Cork City in 3rd place last season

[EatYerGreens]

It was :)

The LOI was dead on its arse in the 1980s.

Rovers homeless & under boycott ; most clubs attracting woeful crowds etc ; other clubs like NewcastleWest hitting the wall etc.

[Dalymountrower]

Yeah, no Cork team or multiple attempts at a Cork team.Limerick and Sligo won the cup(both against Bohs) as did UCD.As Rovers got more successful their crowds dropped. Bohs beat Rangers UCD should havebeaten Everton..Derry spiced it up when they joined.
90's had great battles between Bohs Cork and Shels.
Every decade had its moments, but I think the standard of football played in the league in recent years, including this year. is far superior. .

[hoopy]

Maybe the question is too sensitive for Rovers supporters to engage with?

Unless Dundalk get turned over in Waterford this weekend, the league title will be there to be won by Dundalk against Rovers next Monday in Oriel (irrespective of Friday's result between Rovers & St Pats)

While Rovers management, players and fans would like to prevent Dundalk winning the title against them again, it may be that pride overcome's pragmatism. I expect that Rovers will put out their strongest side in the hope of getting a morale boosting win and trying to finish within 10 points.

There's not a Rovers fan who exlects our 'first' team to play on Monday. Its a nothing game for us, the league is over. I'd be very disappointed if a 'first team' was played(there are injuries at the back which has us stretched there in fairness so Bradley may have to play someone he'd normally not risk).

[marinobohs]

Probably to do with bohs letting their members show up on the night without a ticket and paying 10€ instead of 15 €.

So the "issues" holding up tickets was SRFC wanting to ensure their non playing squad would be facilitated in the Jodi Stand 😂

Why they would want to sit among 3,000 Bohs fans rather than among their own fans is a VERY good question.
Although, having seen the stick their players got from their "supporters" after recent Dalymount games makes it easier to understand 😎

[Asterix]

Its normal for unavailable players to sit in the main stands at away grounds, why do bohs ones go to the main stand in tallaght?. This is the FAI's game so the club wern't going to accept them having to go the condemned stand behind the dugouts like they usually do.

They wont be among 3000 bohs fans, they'll in block A by themselves :rolleyes:

[sbgawa]

So the "issues" holding up tickets was SRFC wanting to ensure their non playing squad would be facilitated in the Jodi Stand 😂

Why they would want to sit among 3,000 Bohs fans rather than among their own fans is a VERY good question.
Although, having seen the stick their players got from their "supporters" after recent Dalymount games makes it easier to understand 😎

Is there a reason why bohs shouldn't have to accomadate staff and players from away teams like every other club in the league?
Didn't think so...

[marinobohs]

[QUOTE=Asterix;2017493]Its normal for unavailable players to sit in the main stands at away grounds, why do bohs ones go to the main stand in tallaght?. This is the FAI's game so the club wern't going to accept them having to go the condemned stand behind the dugouts like they usually do.

They wont be among 3000 bohs fans, they'll in block A by themselves :rolleyes:[/QUOTE

Wrong again. That's what shams wanted, front two rows only given, rest of Block A is home fans.🙄
Why don't they want to be with their own fans ? Bohs players often join fans at away games, even in Tallaght, and have done at Oriel and Richmond recently.
Oh wait.....the abuse at FT 😎

[Asterix]

Strange that the arrangements for buying home end tickets had to be changed then if Rovers are ony getting the front two rows.

[marinobohs]

Strange that the arrangements for buying home end tickets had to be changed then if Rovers are ony getting the front two rows.

Strange you were blaming Bohs members for delaying allocation of Des Kelly tickets when it was shams causing the unnecessary delay.

I’ll take that as your apology for being wrong 😁
Front two rows as confirmed to SRFC, strange how they complain about the limited capacity yet want a whole block for a couple of players.

[sbgawa]

Will be amazed if the front two rows is the solution, we will see.
Rovers players sit with the rovers fans at every home match and plenty of away matches, u still haven't given a reason why bohs shouldn't have to provide safe seating for players and staff like every other club does.
Oh wait there isn't one :)

[marinobohs]

Will be amazed if the front two rows is the solution, we will see.
Rovers players sit with the rovers fans at every home match and plenty of away matches, u still haven't given a reason why bohs shouldn't have to provide safe seating for players and staff like every other club does.
Oh wait there isn't one :)

Still waiting for reason shams complain about lack of capacity yet want a whole section of the stand blocked off for a few players.

While you are at it let us know why they delayed allocating DK tickets to their fans ?

Or why players would rather sit among 3000 Bohs fans than with their own ?

[placid casual]

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

[Asterix]

Why would Rovers pay for the players to go into the away end when they get free access to the jodi, or take away tickets from fans.

You keep pretending bohs squad go into the awy end, they can be seen in their tracksuits in the main stand in Tallaght.

As for 3000 bohs fans , that dosn't add up does it? Jodi only holds about 2600. You only sold a limited amount on genral sale, your season ticket holders could only get 1 each and your members got 3, Id say its more likely 2000 bohs fans. :o

[marinobohs]

Why would Rovers pay for the players to go into the away end when they get free access to the jodi, or take away tickets from fans.

You keep pretending bohs squad go into the awy end, they can be seen in their tracksuits in the main stand in Tallaght.

As for 3000 bohs fans , that dosn't add up does it? Jodi only holds about 2600. You only sold a limited amount on genral sale, your season ticket holders could only get 1 each and your members got 3, Id say its more likely 2000 bohs fans. :o
Sorry, 2742 Bohs fans. Where will the 742 shams get the tickets so ? Many Bohs members among your support ?

Still waiting as to why your players are so adamant on wanting to sit among 2€&@ (there you go 😁) Bohs fans rather than be with their own ?

Why did Shams delay distribution of DK tickets over this ?

Why did you state it was deked due to Bohs members attendance ?

[marinobohs]

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Nope, your village know it’s idiot has escaped again ?

[sbgawa]

Rovers want the same respect shown to their players and staff in dalymount as your players and staff get in Tallaght were they are given seats the same as every other club.
It's called common courtesy.
We will continue to show respect to your players and staff who routinely sit with rovers fans in Tallaght.

[Nesta99]

Its normal for unavailable players to sit in the main stands at away grounds, why do bohs ones go to the main stand in tallaght?. This is the FAI's game so the club wern't going to accept them having to go the condemned stand behind the dugouts like they usually do.

They wont be among 3000 bohs fans, they'll in block A by themselves :rolleyes:

Any bites yet?

[marinobohs]

Rovers want the same respect shown to their players and staff in dalymount as your players and staff get in Tallaght were they are given seats the same as every other club.
It's called common courtesy.
We will continue to show respect to your players and staff who routinely sit with rovers fans in Tallaght.

So shams block off a full section of the main stand for every away team ? Do they do it for Bohs ?
Of course they do :rolleyes: That same 'respect' that was shown to Bohs U19s after they won last season at Tallaght ?

shams players have always sat in the Jodi stand - just not given a full block and that is what shams wanted in what was noting more than a petty attempt to prevent fans attending. And this after many of their fans whining about limited capacity :D

[Ezeikial]

They wont be among 3000 bohs fans, they'll in block A by themselves :rolleyes:


Will be amazed if the front two rows is the solution, we will see.


How many Rovers non playing staff are involved here?

How many seats are in Block A? Did Rovers seek to have the entire block set aside for staff?

[sbgawa]

No idea how many Rovers staff are involved or indeed how many seats are in block A.
Equally nobody (on here anyway) has any idea what Rovers requested of the FAI other than a safe place for their players and staff to sit just like is provided for Bohs and all other clubs non playing staff and players in Tallaght for every match.
Its kind of Bizarre that anyone would think a club requesting a safe place for officials etc to sit is an unreasonable request.....
I've been in both the Jodi and the Des Kelly in Dalyer and the problem with the jodi is the resident headbangers are there and it can become a pretty unfriendly environment.
In Tallaght our headbangers are located in the South stand so Bohs/Dundalk/anyone elses officials/staff generally sit in the west stand and are perfectly safe and can watch the match.

When the Council build the new Dublin City Council stadium the extra 2 sides will allow Bohs and Shelbourne to have visiting teams officials and non playing players accommodated with the more sane home fans without any trouble or hassle.
In the meantime a request for a safe area is not unreasonable and i am sure the two clubs will have come up with a solution with the FAI that wont see a massive loss of seating.

Can't wait to see the thread on the actual match :)

[marinobohs]

No idea how many Rovers staff are involved or indeed how many seats are in block A.
Equally nobody (on here anyway) has any idea what Rovers requested of the FAI other than a safe place for their players and staff to sit just like is provided for Bohs and all other clubs non playing staff and players in Tallaght for every match.
Its kind of Bizarre that anyone would think a club requesting a safe place for officials etc to sit is an unreasonable request.....
I've been in both the Jodi and the Des Kelly in Dalyer and the problem with the jodi is the resident headbangers are there and it can become a pretty unfriendly environment.
In Tallaght our headbangers are located in the South stand so Bohs/Dundalk/anyone elses officials/staff generally sit in the west stand and are perfectly safe and can watch the match.

When the Council build the new Dublin City Council stadium the extra 2 sides will allow Bohs and Shelbourne to have visiting teams officials and non playing players accommodated with the more sane home fans without any trouble or hassle.
In the meantime a request for a safe area is not unreasonable and i am sure the two clubs will have come up with a solution with the FAI that wont see a massive loss of seating.

Can't wait to see the thread on the actual match :)

Sane fans ? I saw our keeper dodging bottles at Tallaght, our U19s spat at for daring to win a match and last years shameful exhibition by your PA clown when our U 19s won, talk about 'respect' :rolleyes: in Tallaght Bohs non playing players crossed the pitch to sit with our own fans, Its been said here shams do also, so why insist on the whole block A ? And hold up DK allocation until they could try and get the FAI to intervene ? As everybody knows (including you) the Bohs hard core sit as far away from section A as you can possibly get

Shams players have never been attacked while sitting in the Jodi before (including all recent sold out derbies) yet didn't need a whole section sealed off for them. Are those shams fans that called for the game to be moved aware that SRFC are trying to limit the capacity further ? Or was it just a desperate attempt to take way home advantage ?


Incidentially, I remember the first derby at Tallaght, Bohs got 200 tickets in total.

[placid casual]

[QUOTE=marinobohs;2017548


Incidentially, I remember the first derby at Tallaght, Bohs got 200 tickets in total.[/QUOTE]

Probably something to do with the fact there was only 1 stand.

<Mod Edit, please do not descend into personal abuse, however justified.

[sbgawa]

I give up.
Completely unreasonable to ask not to have to sit in the same stand as bohs hard-core supporters.....

[Ezeikial]

I give up.
Completely unreasonable to ask not to have to sit in the same stand as bohs hard-core supporters.....

If the Rovers entourage had all of Block A, would they not still be in the same stand?

By your logic, perhaps the whole of the rest of the Jodi should be left vacant.

This whole farrago sounds like a whole lot of mischief making to me. The visiting team are entitled to a certain number of complimentaries from the host club. Bohs should provide them and take reasonable steps around the safety of all guests