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25 man squad named:
Republic of Ireland Squad
Goalkeepers: Darren Randolph (Middlesbrough), Keiren Westwood (Sheffield Wednesday), Mark Travers (Bournemouth)
Defenders: Seamus Coleman (Everton), Matt Doherty (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Shane Duffy (Brighton & Hove Albion), Richard Keogh (Derby County), John Egan (Sheffield United), Kevin Long (Burnley), Enda Stevens (Sheffield United)
Midfielders: Alan Judge (Ipswich Town), Callum O’Dowda (Bristol City), Alan Browne (Preston North End), Jack Byrne (Shamrock Rovers), Jeff Hendrick (Burnley), Conor Hourihane (Aston Villa), James McCarthy (Crystal Palace), Glenn Whelan (Hearts), Josh Cullen (Charlton Athletic), James McClean (Stoke City), Ronan Curtis (Portsmouth)
Forwards: Callum Robinson (Sheffield United), Sean Maguire (Preston North End), Scott Hogan (Stoke City), David McGoldrick (Sheffield United)
jbyrne
29/08/2019, 10:31 AM
25 man squad named:
Republic of Ireland Squad
Goalkeepers: Darren Randolph (Middlesbrough), Keiren Westwood (Sheffield Wednesday), Mark Travers (Bournemouth)
Defenders: Seamus Coleman (Everton), Matt Doherty (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Shane Duffy (Brighton & Hove Albion), Richard Keogh (Derby County), John Egan (Sheffield United), Kevin Long (Burnley), Enda Stevens (Sheffield United)
Midfielders: Alan Judge (Ipswich Town), Callum O’Dowda (Bristol City), Alan Browne (Preston North End), Jack Byrne (Shamrock Rovers), Jeff Hendrick (Burnley), Conor Hourihane (Aston Villa), James McCarthy (Crystal Palace), Glenn Whelan (Hearts), Josh Cullen (Charlton Athletic), James McClean (Stoke City), Ronan Curtis (Portsmouth)
Forwards: Callum Robinson (Sheffield United), Sean Maguire (Preston North End), Scott Hogan (Stoke City), David McGoldrick (Sheffield United)
no shane long? would've thought he would be a good option off the bench for the last 20 mins if we are chasing a goal
Stuttgart88
29/08/2019, 11:06 AM
Delighted Byrne made it. It's a shame Browne hasn't been fit until now. It'll be a risk to test him in a game like this but he must be pushing hard for a place. Brady's absence ought to make McClean's starting certain, which it probably was anyway.
Diggs246
29/08/2019, 11:12 AM
no shane long? would've thought he would be a good option off the bench for the last 20 mins if we are chasing a goal
Michael Obafami will more then likely be getting game time against Man Utd on Saturday, ( Redmond is injured, so he might even start) if he does the business surely he will be promoted to the Seniors
third policeman
29/08/2019, 11:56 AM
Michael Obafami will more then likely be getting game time against Man Utd on Saturday, ( Redmond is injured, so he might even start) if he does the business surely he will be promoted to the Seniors
With Mick, I doubt it. Pleasantly surprised that Byrne made the cut, but Maguire and Hogan have done nothing to suggest they will ever be good enough to play at this level.
jbyrne
29/08/2019, 12:02 PM
With Mick, I doubt it. Pleasantly surprised that Byrne made the cut, but Maguire and Hogan have done nothing to suggest they will ever be good enough to play at this level.
agree, long had a good end to last season and scored a few goals. cant see what maguire and hogan have done since then, or at any stage, to justify selection ahead of him.
Diggs246
29/08/2019, 12:16 PM
This puts thats to bed anyway
www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0829/1071631-obafemi-one-of-three-saints-to-miss-united-game
tetsujin1979
29/08/2019, 12:48 PM
This puts thats to bed anyway
www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0829/1071631-obafemi-one-of-three-saints-to-miss-united-game (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0829/1071631-obafemi-one-of-three-saints-to-miss-united-game)
Could mean Long gets a chance, so, you know, every cloud and all that
Fizzer
29/08/2019, 7:52 PM
Apart from Long being a better option to spring from the bench if we’re chasing a goal, he would be a much better option up top if we need to defend a one-nil lead. Maguire and Hogan just aren’t good enough for this level.
Diggs246
30/08/2019, 11:20 AM
Apart from Long being a better option to spring from the bench if we’re chasing a goal, he would be a much better option up top if we need to defend a one-nil lead. Maguire and Hogan just aren’t good enough for this level.
Yep, Hogan and Maguire were both given golden opportunities against the worlds worst team ( Gibraltar) they were both hopeless
DeLorean
30/08/2019, 11:28 AM
It does seem mad alright. For all his failings at times, Long can be a serious weapon at any level when he's in the zone. Could there be any reason for this that we don't know about?
jbyrne
30/08/2019, 11:47 AM
It does seem mad alright. For all his failings at times, Long can be a serious weapon at any level when he's in the zone. Could there be any reason for this that we don't know about?
it does seem strange that he is getting no game time with Southampton given his decent end of season form for them
seanfhear
30/08/2019, 1:09 PM
Perhaps Southampton wanted him to move on and are playing toughie with him for not moving on ?
tetsujin1979
30/08/2019, 3:31 PM
Switzerland have announced their squad to play Ireland and Gibraltar.
Xherdan Shaqiri has decided to concentrate on his club career and is not included
1167452058217320448
Diggs246
30/08/2019, 7:55 PM
Sorry for the language.
What I should have said was Harry Arter is playing for Fulham tonight and we should accept he is an English person with zero loyalty to Ireland. He makes me want to get sick tbh
Grafter
30/08/2019, 8:13 PM
Sorry for the language.
What I should have said was Harry Arter is playing for Fulham tonight and we should accept he is an English person with zero loyalty to Ireland. He makes me want to get sick tbh
He has a fitness issue that needs to be managed. He has missed a lot of club games in recent years to be fair so you can understand him being reluctant to overdo it. You look at David Meyler (same age 30) having to retire early due to injury and it would make you think I'd imagine..
Diggs246
30/08/2019, 8:15 PM
He has a fitness issue that needs to be managed. He has missed a lot of club games in recent years to be fair so you can understand him being reluctant to overdo it. You look at David Meyler (same age 30) having to retire early due to injury and it would make you think I'd imagine..
No sorry. He doesn't turn down an England call up to prioritise a championship game with Fulham
Diggs246
30/08/2019, 8:21 PM
He has just been sent off for diving. Smashing guy.
tetsujin1979
30/08/2019, 8:56 PM
Looked like he slipped more than anything else, and the ref shows him a second yellow.
Apparently he's having ankle surgery over the international break
geysir
30/08/2019, 10:16 PM
Switzerland have announced their squad to play Ireland and Gibraltar.
Xherdan Shaqiri has decided to concentrate on his club career and is not included
1167452058217320448I see another first team selection, Zuber, is not in that squad either.
Diggs246
30/08/2019, 10:18 PM
Do you really think that was a slip?
Its 1.19 mins secs into this clip
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DERt_DKtcGF4&ved=2ahUKEwiorPCBz6vkAhWeSBUIHTxgAKYQwqsBMAB6BAgIE AU&usg=AOvVaw11SzwYHRui2HBWN-4z4Y-v
tetsujin1979
30/08/2019, 10:30 PM
Closer to a slip than a dive
Diggs246
30/08/2019, 10:36 PM
Closer to a slip than a dive
In Narnia
geysir
30/08/2019, 11:46 PM
In real time he dived.
In the replays he was either clipped or he dived. He has previous but his expression of disbelief/indignation to being yellow carded looked genuine enough.
According to talks his people have had with our people, Arter said he would be available for the next round of games in the group. It that comes to pass then Harry can start afresh, if not then he becomes a nobody, dead.
CraftyToePoke
30/08/2019, 11:47 PM
Apparently he's having ankle surgery over the international break
Heard that too, but would certain other players miss this game for the same injury ? Naming no one in particular but McLean, Coleman, Duffy, those likes ? Can't see it myself.
Fizzer
31/08/2019, 12:24 AM
I wouldn’t get too excited either way, he’s 30 and needs to try to prolong his club career.Internationally it didn’t really work out for him, his big disappointment will have been missing out on euro 2016.Probably suits us better that he’s not taking up space on the bench, he was never going to be a player that Kenny would use anyway.Better to let the likes of Cullen, Byrne, and hopefully Crowley, Connell and (possibly) Kelly get some game time as soon as possible and see how they shape up. I think it’s unrealistic to expect the likes of Arter to train/play with Ireland and potentially jeopardize the few years of club football that he has left.He spent plenty of time outside the premier league so he can’t be rolling in it. He’s a decent player who just didn’t quite make it to the very top but best of luck to him.
seanfhear
31/08/2019, 5:26 AM
Do you really think that was a slip?
Its 1.19 mins secs into this clip
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DERt_DKtcGF4&ved=2ahUKEwiorPCBz6vkAhWeSBUIHTxgAKYQwqsBMAB6BAgIE AU&usg=AOvVaw11SzwYHRui2HBWN-4z4Y-vA delayed dive at that . Was his operation brought forward ?
Diggs246
31/08/2019, 12:47 PM
A delayed dive at that . Was his operation brought forward ?
If there even is an operation!!. He is using the international break anyway
tommy_c12000
31/08/2019, 3:05 PM
Outstanding work by Stevens down the left, great finish by Robinson. Makes it 2-1 vs Chelsea. Well worth watching the goal. McG dropped. Hogan on bench for stoke.
Diggs246
31/08/2019, 3:19 PM
Outstanding work by Stevens down the left, great finish by Robinson. Makes it 2-1 vs Chelsea. Well worth watching the goal. McG dropped. Hogan on bench for stoke.
Do u have a link?
liamoo11
31/08/2019, 3:50 PM
If Maguire misses out cause of head injury long coming in makes us stronger I think off the bench with mcgoldrick and Robinson likely to start in front three along with mcclean.
Closed Account
31/08/2019, 4:11 PM
https://streamable.com/xlrfs
Eirambler
01/09/2019, 5:18 PM
McCarthy clearly has no time for Long at all, James Collins added to the list of lower division strikers who are getting picked before him.
James McCarthy fully fit but pulls out of the squad, committed as ever. Glenn Whelan a cert to start now.
Fixer82
01/09/2019, 5:36 PM
Well Mick doesn’t like Long anyway
samhaydenjr
02/09/2019, 1:48 AM
McCarthy clearly has no time for Long at all, James Collins added to the list of lower division strikers who are getting picked before him.
James McCarthy fully fit but pulls out of the squad, committed as ever. Glenn Whelan a cert to start now.
Well Mick doesn’t like Long anyway
Yeah, this one I would question - I know Long has had his issues in front of goal (and that Collins has stepped up to Championship level well, scoring his third yesterday), but he's our only active striker who has actually scored internationally (unless you count Aiden O'Brien); he's our only active striker with more than one Premier League goal; and he's seventh on our all-time goalscoring list, with a goal to caps ratio comparable to Quinn and Cascarino. And as his goal against Germany showed, he's a great option to bring off the bench against a defence tired by a hardworking forward line
tricky_colour
02/09/2019, 4:54 AM
Do you really think that was a slip?
Its 1.19 mins secs into this clip
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DERt_DKtcGF4&ved=2ahUKEwiorPCBz6vkAhWeSBUIHTxgAKYQwqsBMAB6BAgIE AU&usg=AOvVaw11SzwYHRui2HBWN-4z4Y-v
Actually I saw that yesterday and my first thought was yep that was a dive, you have to do what you can these says, all fair in love and war etc...
However looking at it again he has been very hard done by.
It is beyond doubt Morrison clipped his ankle, you can see Morrison is nowhere near the ball when he taps his ankle, it is a "tap tackle" as it in
known in rugby and there is no way you can stay on your feet from one
of those.
Arter might have made meal of it, not even sure of that but he was fouled so it is a free kick to him. It is very hard to stay on your feet when someone clips your ankle it affects your whole balance, I think he was very hard done by.
tricky_colour
02/09/2019, 5:12 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49456552
Man of the match - Callum Robinson (Sheffield United)
Callum Robinson scored from one of his four shots, and was 100% accurate with his 21 passes during the game
100% is quite high for a forward, you rarely see higher.
jbyrne
02/09/2019, 7:48 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49456552
100% is quite high for a forward, you rarely see higher.
his form on saturday (from what i saw on MOTD) would give me some hope for Thursday. Himself and enda stevens combined very well at times down the left side
backstothewall
02/09/2019, 9:58 AM
Do we know the yellow card was given for simulation? Despite what the commentators said my impression was that the yellow was given for dissent. You just can't get on like that.
Diggs246
02/09/2019, 10:17 AM
Actually I saw that yesterday and my first thought was yep that was a dive, you have to do what you can these says, all fair in love and war etc...
However looking at it again he has been very hard done by.
It is beyond doubt Morrison clipped his ankle, you can see Morrison is nowhere near the ball when he taps his ankle, it is a "tap tackle" as it in
known in rugby and there is no way you can stay on your feet from one
of those.
Arter might have made meal of it, not even sure of that but he was fouled so it is a free kick to him. It is very hard to stay on your feet when someone clips your ankle it affects your whole balance, I think he was very hard done by.
Watch it again and check out the little roll he does at the end, regardless of the various opinions the trip, the dive, the slip. the pathetic roll itself is deigned to fool the ref
Fixer82
02/09/2019, 2:41 PM
Definite dive because he doesn’t go down with the contact.
He takes another step and then decides to hit the deck
Diggs246
02/09/2019, 4:05 PM
I know I will burn in hell for this, but I think we should play the long ball system on Thursday
I had a look at the swiss defense and they were beyond hopeless dealing with balls being launched at them
Also our midfield is no match for theirs
Eirambler
02/09/2019, 4:10 PM
I'm pretty sure we will, most of these lads can't string three passes together. 'Direct' football and set pieces is where we're at for now sadly.
seanfhear
02/09/2019, 4:11 PM
Long is a man for the Long ball . Something is amiss here . A falling out / Shane fed up of it / something else .
irishfan86
02/09/2019, 4:28 PM
If our system is some kind of 4-5-1/4-3-3 situation I actually think we’ll enjoy our share of the ball. Georgia are no Switzerland but they dominated possession against us last campaign and we had more control this time around under Mick. Having a midfield three of Whelan behind Hourihane and Hendrick if that is indeed the selection will allow us to hold our own in the middle of the park.
My main concern isn’t possession but rather the ability to create/finish chances.
I don’t see an obvious immediate solution to that with the personnel we have, just hoping it’s a matter of time before some of our young prospects break through.
For now I think Robinson is the only player capable of consistently creating something from open play. Likely we’ll be relying on set pieces — which honestly I have a lot of faith in with the quality of Hourihane’s delivery and Duffy’s capability to dominate aerially.
samhaydenjr
02/09/2019, 6:40 PM
Mick says that Long's absence is purely down to lack of playing time and that he is willing to bring him back in once he's playing - I think this is a debatable rationale with a player of Long's experience and calibre (will four or five games really make that much of a difference), but it does indicate that there's still a chance we'll see him in the last three qualifiers: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0902/1073349-mccarthy-not-closing-the-door-on-shane-long/
Incidentally, I will say, having seen the Swiss squad sheet and where they all ply their trades, that we are definitely the underdogs again for this tie so we will have to be at our absolute best to get something from it - if we do, then Mick and the players deserve enormous credit
Olé Olé
02/09/2019, 6:42 PM
I agree with Robinson. And it's a pity that he will be playing wider than he is at club level. To compound that, I don't think McClean has looked like scoring much for us so we don't have a goal threat on that side when we should. The heroics of Austria in 2016 and Wales in 2017 feel a long time ago.
Olé Olé
02/09/2019, 7:42 PM
A lot of praise around for Stevens and his displays for Sheffield United. He has looked good for us at left back but I think playing in a flatter back four is depriving us of his attacking abilities. The same would be the case if Doherty was at right back. I wonder whether it will get to the point where we just need to go with the 3-5-2 to make the most of what we have. Given that we already play with a midfield 3, we can maintain that.
I don't see us getting to that point. I think McCarthy is going to stick with this 4-3-2-1.
Fixer82
03/09/2019, 6:23 AM
Mick says that Long's absence is purely down to lack of playing time and that he is willing to bring him back in once he's playing -
He’d no problem playing McAteer when he couldn’t get a sniff of game time from Souness
Eirambler
03/09/2019, 6:41 AM
He has no problem picking Hendrick either who has fewer minutes this season than Long. I remember this being an issue with Mick the first time around, he would make a big play on some players not being first choice at their clubs but would then completely ignore it for others like Mcateer and Mark Kennedy.
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