Munster Senior League

[CityRebel]

Iv seen this guy 3 times before god hes shocking. Hes about 6 foot 6 but hes pure tripe. City must be stuck this year.

He'll be back up. City are after a 3rd keeper but I doubt it'll be anyone from the MSL. Krawiec from Mayfield played in the pre-season friendly against Cobh but didn't have much to do.

[the hawk]

douglas hall vs st marys called off due to the wind

[Sparky]

Mayfield 2-5 Midleton.

[villaman10]

mayfield 2 midleton 5
conditions,terrible 2-1 at half time to mayfield midleton came out second half flying,deserved winners

[ringmahon4ever]

beat ballinhassig 3-1 yesterday..one down with 15 left,,.back on track now

[collcorforever]

Corinthians 6 Ballincollig 2, wind and rain died just before kick off so we were all looking forward to a good game but it turned out to be very one sided, Ballincollig were missing seven 1st team players and it showed they were awful, nice to get 3 points as we have not played a league game in over 2 months.

[magpie]

conditions were absolutely terrible, game should have been called off to be honest.

Mayfield lead twice but Midleton were superior all over the pitch and eventually the score line told the story. a good 3 points for the lads considering Rockmount and Avondale dropped points and the hall weren't playing,The league is still wide open and who knows what way it could go. All teams in the league are capable of taken points of each other. But Midleton are still the big surprise package this year.

[mayfield utd]

mayfield 2 midleton 5
conditions,terrible 2-1 at half time to mayfield midleton came out second half flying,deserved winners

ya very bad conditions the match should have been called off really,gail force winds blowing from 1 goal to the other goal.mayfield had the wind in the 1st half and looked the better team should have been 3 or 4.1 up at half time hoey missed 2 good chance,2nd half was all midleton cos it was there turn with the wind once midleton went 3.2 up our lads seemed to give up, goals 4 and 5 were scored within minutes of goal number 3,midleton also hit the post to made it 6.the better team won on the day but the wind ruined what could have been a good game

[Sparky]

I know Razor is good enough to do the 'PREDICTIONS TABLE' but anybody interested in predicting the following

Munster Senior League Premier Division Winners?
Intermediate Cup Winners?
Munster Senior Cup Winners?
Munster Senior League First Division Winners?
Munster Junior League Premier Winners?

[AvondaleNutter]

avondale should of won it, very good game in spite of the conditions both teams tried to get the ball down and play, very entertaining!

Very good game with both Teams putting in 100%. Avondale were on top in the first 15-20 mins with the wind behind them but failed to create goal scoring opportunities. Rockmount scored after 20 mins, quick free kick to Ginger and he sliced a shot which Buttsey managed to get on the end of it and head it past Dave the Save. From then until half time, Rockmount were on Top. Beechnoir was booked after 5 mins for trying to referee the game, usual from him. On numerous occasions the referee had to tell him shut up.
I know Avondale are guilty of trying to influnence referees but never have i seen a team week on week as poorly behaved towards the ref as rockmount.

Second half, Avondale were playing into to the wind and they we're far better than they were in the first half. Thoroughly deserved their goal. Free kick on the edge of the box was beautfully lofted in by mucking but i was cleared off the line. Hoggy manged to get his foot behind it and from a standing overhead kick, he put it past the Rockmount defence and keeper to make it one all. Minutes later hoggy made a clearence with Beechnoir closing him down. Both men fell to the floor and Beechnoir appeared to not let Hoggy get up. Both players went head to head and the referee booked both players who were already on a yellow and they were given their marching orders.
Spratty had a great chance late on but heroic defending form the Rcokmount No.5 saved a point for Rockmount.

Avondale deserved 3 points and will be kicking themselves to walk away with a draw, this result is sure to please league leaders Douglas Hall.

[villaman10]

I know Razor is good enough to do the 'PREDICTIONS TABLE' but anybody interested in predicting the following

Munster Senior League Premier Division Winners?
Intermediate Cup Winners?
Munster Senior Cup Winners?
Munster Senior League First Division Winners?
Munster Junior League Premier Winners?

douglas senior premier
avondale intermediate cup
waterford munster senior cup
leeds first division
douglas junior premier

[Clifford]

Due to play College this weekend, but it's been pulled for the replay with Avondale. Another dead weekend.

[BalagueFC]

Corinthians 6 Ballincollig 2, wind and rain died just before kick off so we were all looking forward to a good game but it turned out to be very one sided, Ballincollig were missing seven 1st team players and it showed they were awful, nice to get 3 points as we have not played a league game in over 2 months.

I know there is 3 serious promotion contenders in Ringmahon, Fermoy and Leeds as they have the points on the board at the moment but looking at the table you will be there or there abouts if ye do well in your games in hand. Do you still feel like you have a chance for promotion or is it a step too far this year? I watched the Avondale game and it looks like a decent enough group of players to at least challenge

[Glenbuck]

Wrong on all counts Sparky.

[Glenbuck]

Just heard from a source at work that there was a bust up in training out in Rockmount the other night. Can anybody confirm- possably only a wild rumor however be interesting if it was true?
Not at all.Nothing could be furthur from the truth.I heard morale in Dublin for cup game was up there with the best of days of a great club.

[Glenbuck]

Lads..was told Gareth Cambridge has signed for st marys!!! Can anyone confirm this??? If so he is up there with the best in the league without a doubt!
Its a keeper they need. Stad off to Oz.

[Glenbuck]

rumour on the street is rockmount have found new management for next season. heard it from a source at work today!! can anyone confirm this???Promotion from within.

[Glenbuck]

That would be very interesting to see them without Cronin :eek:
By Cronin I expect you mean Billy Cronin, the most successful manager in MSL history.

[mayfield utd]

there's rumours of billy cronin retiring every year for the last 4 or 5 years,i don't think he'll retire,but if he does it will be cos he'll need to bring in to many players next season,mount have a few old squad most of the team in it's 30's.if he does go surely alan martin will get the job,i heard a rumour a few weeks back alan martin and dave (can't remember his surname,he just signed from blarney) are taken over next season but i'll believe it when i see it

[Goggs]

By Cronin I expect you mean Billy Cronin, the most successful manager in MSL history.

Easy to be the best manager when you rob everyone elses players would love to see him manage a team with average players and see how he gets on ie John Cauldfield UCC who is failing miserably

[el nino coro]

douglas senior premier
avondale intermediate cup
waterford munster senior cup
leeds first division
douglas junior premier

Avondale for the intermediate cup? are you seriously having a laugh or what man?

[el nino coro]

Spot on Goggs

[villaman10]

Easy to be the best manager when you rob everyone elses players would love to see him manage a team with average players and see how he gets on ie John Cauldfield UCC who is failing miserably

the fact that so many players allow themselves to be ''robbed'' (by mr cronin) in the first place must show that he has some quailities!! it is a big test for mr caulfield but only half way through the season, will have to give him a fair crack of the whip before we can comment fairly!!

avondale and rockmount are not only teams who bring outside players!! most promoted teams each year add 3/4 players, more if they could!!

[villaman10]

Avondale for the intermediate cup? are you seriously having a laugh or what man?

i never said i was putting money on it!!
before you ask i'm not an avondale man!

[Clifford]

Anyone involved in a team not playing this weekend who want a game?

[AvondaleNutter]

Avondale for the intermediate cup? are you seriously having a laugh or what man?

Its very funny you say this but every year Avondale won the the Intermediate cup they never won the league and have actually played quite poorly in those years but still mananged to win the Cup.

To my knowledge this stat also applies to Rockmount so correct me if i'm wrong so I don't agree with you rubbishing Avondales chances of winning it.

If i was asked who i'd predict, i would say Douglas Hall from what i've seen but i wouldn't put money on them. My money would be on Rockmount or Avondale as they have been there done that without playing particularly well.

[AvondaleNutter]

BEAMISH STOUT SENIOR CUP 2011

1st Round:

1. Tramore Ath v Casement Celtic
2. Castleview v Midleton
3. Everton v Avondale Utd
4. Cobh Wanderers v Blarney Utd
5. Douglas Hall v Bandon
6. Youghal Utd v Glasheen
7. Crosshaven v Carrigaline Utd
8. CIT v College Corinthians
9. Ballincolllig v Lakewood Ath
10. Rockmount v Passage
11. Garryduff v St Marys
12. Ringmhaon Rgs v UCC
13. Mayfield Utd v Mallow Utd
14. Fermoy v Ballinhassig
15. Temple Utd
16. Leeds

[el nino coro]

Its very funny you say this but every year Avondale won the the Intermediate cup they never won the league and have actually played quite poorly in those years but still mananged to win the Cup.

To my knowledge this stat also applies to Rockmount so correct me if i'm wrong so I don't agree with you rubbishing Avondales chances of winning it.

If i was asked who i'd predict, i would say Douglas Hall from what i've seen but i wouldn't put money on them. My money would be on Rockmount or Avondale as they have been there done that without playing particularly well.


My money is on rockmount at 6s

[Glenbuck]

Easy to be the best manager when you rob everyone elses players would love to see him manage a team with average players and see how he gets on ie John Cauldfield UCC who is failing miserably
Take you back to 1999 when he only had one non Rockmount schoolboy in his squad.Intermediate cup and lge winners that year. Players are never shackled. They can come and go when they please. I sense a case of the auld green eyed monster Goggs.

[Glenbuck]

Its very funny you say this but every year Avondale won the the Intermediate cup they never won the league and have actually played quite poorly in those years but still mananged to win the Cup.

To my knowledge this stat also applies to Rockmount so correct me if i'm wrong so I don't agree with you rubbishing Avondales chances of winning it.

If i was asked who i'd predict, i would say Douglas Hall from what i've seen but i wouldn't put money on them. My money would be on Rockmount or Avondale as they have been there done that without playing particularly well.
Rockmount won both in 1999.

[greengrass]

there's rumours of billy cronin retiring every year for the last 4 or 5 years,i don't think he'll retire,but if he does it will be cos he'll need to bring in to many players next season,mount have a few old squad most of the team in it's 30's.if he does go surely alan martin will get the job,i heard a rumour a few weeks back alan martin and dave (can't remember his surname,he just signed from blarney) are taken over next season but i'll believe it when i see it

that would be dave aherne mayfield utd im sure
he played with blarney first half of this season

[jacksparrow]

every year the rumours of billy jackin it and alan martin are sent around..does it bother anyone in the slightest wether it happens or not..dave ahern was not even gettin a look in at blarney as is now playing centre half for rockmount and in the few games i saw them play he was one of there outstanding players..dont tink he was brought in to take over..

[Goggs]

Take you back to 1999 when he only had one non Rockmount schoolboy in his squad.Intermediate cup and lge winners that year. Players are never shackled. They can come and go when they please. I sense a case of the auld green eyed monster Goggs.
Good call Glenbuck i recall it would be Micky Deasy your referring to as the non-scchoolboy now that was a pure Rockmount side Byrne, Martin,Yelverton,O shea etc its just a shame you can barely find one now.

[greengrass]

every year the rumours of billy jackin it and alan martin are sent around..does it bother anyone in the slightest wether it happens or not..dave ahern was not even gettin a look in at blarney as is now playing centre half for rockmount and in the few games i saw them play he was one of there outstanding players..dont tink he was brought in to take over..

Dave ahern was playing junior for blarney this year
blarney slipped up

[Glenbuck]

Good call Glenbuck i recall it would be Micky Deasy your referring to as the non-scchoolboy now that was a pure Rockmount side Byrne, Martin,Yelverton,O shea etc its just a shame you can barely find one now.
Pat Oldham was the player in question. Willie Byrne was not at the club at the time.As for no schoolboys, from what I heard it wont be long. Its just the way it is with schoolboy football. It comes in cycles.

[Glenbuck]

every year the rumours of billy jackin it and alan martin are sent around..does it bother anyone in the slightest wether it happens or not..dave ahern was not even gettin a look in at blarney as is now playing centre half for rockmount and in the few games i saw them play he was one of there outstanding players..dont tink he was brought in to take over..
It seems to only bother people from outside the club if Billy goes.

[razor]

It seems to only bother people from outside the club if Billy goes.A few MSL referees might be pleased.

[Goggs]

Pat Oldham was the player in question. Willie Byrne was not at the club at the time.As for no schoolboys, from what I heard it wont be long. Its just the way it is with schoolboy football. It comes in cycles.
Well I hope your not waiting on your Youth team their one of the worst in cork it could be 2020 before your youth system produces something but never fear your poaching policy is one of the best in Cork.

[Billynomates]

Willie byrne was casement player i think

[Sparky]

Willie Byrne was definately Casement and Micky Deasy was definately Rockmout at schoolboy level. Micky played senior with temple, mayfield and midleton too.

[Glenbuck]

Well I hope your not waiting on your Youth team their one of the worst in cork it could be 2020 before your youth system produces something but never fear your poaching policy is one of the best in Cork.
By all accounts there are some fine players with 15s and 16s. Its a long shot but there is good work being done at that level. As for the poaching policy, once the final whistle goes in one season it is open season to sign players for the following season. Every angle is covered and it is all above board. As I have said in previous posts they are all big boys and no one forces their hands. Small minded out of you Goggs to thrash a group of young fellas who go out for their game of ball every weekend. The green eyed monster rares his ugly head again.

[BalagueFC]

Is their any club in Cork that is consistent in winning schoolboys league, youth leagues and passing these players to the senior squad? I don’t think it happens anymore because of the lack of loyalty players have. Those days are in the past.

[Goggs]

By all accounts there are some fine players with 15s and 16s. Its a long shot but there is good work being done at that level. As for the poaching policy, once the final whistle goes in one season it is open season to sign players for the following season. Every angle is covered and it is all above board. As I have said in previous posts they are all big boys and no one forces their hands. Small minded out of you Goggs to thrash a group of young fellas who go out for their game of ball every weekend. The green eyed monster rares his ugly head again.
You mentioned the Rockmount team of 1999 Glenbuck all home grown players fast forward 11 years later no home grown players something has radically changed ye were once a club now ye are just a team if your calling me small minded because of this so be it.I guess at heart i'm a romantic glenbuck and that 99 team was a pure CLUB side and yes ye have gone on from there to achieve great things but at a cost.The cost was your club,how many of the current side will go on to help your committee how many of your current side will go on to coach your schoolboys how many of your current side will collect outside mass on a Sunday I'll tell you Glenbuck none.

[j-burt]

To be fair I think Goggs has a point. Now I'm the first one to bad mouth Rockmount but I wont argue with their success. For teams like Rockmount, Avondale, Casement, Corinthians, Castleview, Midleton, Tramore and a few more, its all a merry-go-round, The success they have is down to a time when they bring players in from outside, (rockmount 1999 being an exception to the rule glenbuck) inevitably their under age suffers with the exception to corinthians that is, who have the money and manpower to support it. The munster senior league is like a clock, you have so many years at the top, now (avondale and rockmount), then you fall and have to rise again (tramore, castleview, corinthians, midleton and casement), for those clubs like douglas hall and everton, who have a great underage system and bring their players through, they dont quite have the immediate success. they always have their large club status though. just look at everton with their gym and every young fella playing with the club has an everton tracksuit and hat etc, likewise douglas with their all weather pitch and a team of 'homebased' players who are very close to success right now. now i'm avondale and i hope they dont win the league at our expense but i can see a lot of people saying it'll be good for the league, and of course a model for other clubs to build an underage system.

[Glenbuck]

You mentioned the Rockmount team of 1999 Glenbuck all home grown players fast forward 11 years later no home grown players something has radically changed ye were once a club now ye are just a team if your calling me small minded because of this so be it.I guess at heart i'm a romantic glenbuck and that 99 team was a pure CLUB side and yes ye have gone on from there to achieve great things but at a cost.The cost was your club,how many of the current side will go on to help your committee how many of your current side will go on to coach your schoolboys how many of your current side will collect outside mass on a Sunday I'll tell you Glenbuck none.
Some good points Goggs in fairness. The club from what I can see has never been in better condition. Ran by strong people who look after the church collections as well. Its just the way the lge is. A merry go round. You seem to have a hidden agenda Goggs. Were you involved one time or maybe wanted to be involved.

[Glenbuck]

To be fair I think Goggs has a point. Now I'm the first one to bad mouth Rockmount but I wont argue with their success. For teams like Rockmount, Avondale, Casement, Corinthians, Castleview, Midleton, Tramore and a few more, its all a merry-go-round, The success they have is down to a time when they bring players in from outside, (rockmount 1999 being an exception to the rule glenbuck) inevitably their under age suffers with the exception to corinthians that is, who have the money and manpower to support it. The munster senior league is like a clock, you have so many years at the top, now (avondale and rockmount), then you fall and have to rise again (tramore, castleview, corinthians, midleton and casement), for those clubs like douglas hall and everton, who have a great underage system and bring their players through, they dont quite have the immediate success. they always have their large club status though. just look at everton with their gym and every young fella playing with the club has an everton tracksuit and hat etc, likewise douglas with their all weather pitch and a team of 'homebased' players who are very close to success right now. now i'm avondale and i hope they dont win the league at our expense but i can see a lot of people saying it'll be good for the league, and of course a model for other clubs to build an underage system.
Great in put j burt. I think most schoolboy clubs have the kids turned out in tracksuits including Rockmount. Douglas doing well this season alright. Never knew there was so many ABRs out there. Why cant we all just get along.

[Goggs]

Some good points Goggs in fairness. The club from what I can see has never been in better condition. Ran by strong people who look after the church collections as well. Its just the way the lge is. A merry go round. You seem to have a hidden agenda Goggs. Were you involved one time or maybe wanted to be involved.
Yea Glenbuck its always been my dream to play for Rockmount to play in the home of football in Whitechurch and scream my head off for 90 mins.Theirs no aghenda never had anything to do with ye and never will.

[Sparky]

Yea Glenbuck its always been my dream to play for Rockmount to play in the home of football in Whitechurch and scream my head off for 90 mins.Theirs no aghenda never had anything to do with ye and never will.

Whether right or wrong I love to read Goggs quotes..............there is a Simon Cowell/Eamonn Dunphy character in there ha ha!!! Great stuff. Some good comments and well argued by Glenbuck, J-Burt etc...... Keep it going boys. p.s. Crumlin to beat Rockmount Sunday @ 2/1 is my tip for the weekend.

[Reznik]

Crumlin to beat Rockmount Sunday @ 2/1 is my tip for the weekend.

Where you getting the odds from sparks?

[Sparky]

Paddy Power online.