LOI fixtures 14th/15th June

[Calcio Jack]

Brilliant;);)

In fairness, there's an awful lot of hype around Rovers players, but not a whole lot of substance. Mannus is a top class keeper, Grace, Finn, McEniff, Byrne and Clarke(but not as a left full, absolutely wasted there) and Carr (again, playing in his proper position) would all add to every team in the league, but honestly, as a Bohs fan, I genuinely don't see which Rovers players would significantly improve the first choice Bohs 11. Mannus and Talbot are roughly the same, Pender and Lyons are both better right fulls than Boyle. In fact Barker is probably as good a right full as Boyle, but that's more down to his deficiencies than Barker being a world beater. Kavanagh is a class player, but he's not being played. Wouldn't swap either him or Clarke for Leahy and Kirk though. Grace is a very good player but I wouldn't be pushing Cornwall, Finnerty or Barry out the door to facilitate him. All three are significantly better than Lopes, who I never rated as a centre half with Bohs, but did think I did a good job in the centre of the park (unlikely to get in there ahead of Rovers 16 other central mids though) Levingston showed Bolger up to be the flat track bully he is. All mouth and not half the player he thinks he is. Byrne is a class player but I certainly wouldn't swap him for Mandroiu, and Watts is still the same as he was with Bohs, full of fancy tricks, passes with the outside of the foo, but not a whole lot of end product. If he had stayed under Keith Long and Trevor Crollys' tutelage, instead of playing for that bufoon Bradley, he would have been in an infinitely better positiion to go back to England, which has always been his expressed aim. Finn, once again, completely went missing against Buckley, whilst Greene is shocking and should be nowhere near a team hoping to challenge. As I said, I rate Carr as a striker but he's just like a slightly better version than Darren Manseram. Rovers have very little on the bench either and I presume Joey O'Brien is embarrassed to be picking up a hefty wage at this stage. All in all, Rovers may have the money, but Jesus, they really are not in the same league as Dundalk..Or Bohs for that matter -)

Based on that analysis perhaps you can explain why if the Bohs side is so much better than us, how come you’re below us in the table?

[GerByrne]

Based on that analysis perhaps you can explain why if the Bohs side is so much better than us, how come you’re below us in the table?

Because we don't play you every week, unfortunately..

[Ezeikial]

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22' Bohs awarded another penalty, this time just at the edge of the box


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[SkStu]

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The Dublin Derby

[wexfordned]

Based on that analysis perhaps you can explain why if the Bohs side is so much better than us, how come you’re below us in the table?

Bohs players are part time, so they dont have recovery time that full time sides do. With full time sides like Rovers they can stay overnight for games like Finn Harps/Derry and can have recovery days for their players. Bohs dont have that luxury. James Talbot for example was playing/training for Bohs and then getting up at 5am next day to go work for An Post.

Shamrock Rovers as a club are an embarrassment. From poor management, players lacking in effort/commitment only interested in getting their money every week and the fans hammering the players at the final whistle Friday night the club seems a joke from top to bottom. Rovers mave have money but you can't buy class.

Bohs from the directors to the players and the fans are united and pulling in the right direction. Hopefully that answers ypur question why Bohs are everything that Shamrock Rovers aren't.

[sbgawa]

Equaling a run that hasnt happened in nearly 40 years is hardly a blip! It isnt massive in relative terms to past challanges Rovers have faced tough like losing Milltown, examinership, submitting false accounts, relegation, SDCC having to take control of the almost derelict new ground in Tallaght, a spell of 16 years without a league, 32 without a cup for cup specialists so yeah I can see why some Rovers fans would take this on the chin!

Exactly, perspective is lost quickly

[sbgawa]

Bohs players are part time, so they dont have recovery time that full time sides do. With full time sides like Rovers they can stay overnight for games like Finn Harps/Derry and can have recovery days for their players. Bohs dont have that luxury. James Talbot for example was playing/training for Bohs and then getting up at 5am next day to go work for An Post.

Shamrock Rovers as a club are an embarrassment. From poor management, players lacking in effort/commitment only interested in getting their money every week and the fans hammering the players at the final whistle Friday night the club seems a joke from top to bottom. Rovers mave have money but you can't buy class.

Bohs from the directors to the players and the fans are united and pulling in the right direction. Hopefully that answers ypur question why Bohs are everything that Shamrock Rovers aren't.

Lol , comedy gold,
Rovers don't stay away the night before Derry/harps matches as they don't have the budget, the players lack of commitment in your eyes has them second in the league. Enjoy your win but calm down.

As regards embarrassment, have a look at your players efforts against other teams, your lack of effort to even keep the weeds down in your stadium and .....eh ...bob Marley image rights...... :)

[wexfordned]

Lol , comedy gold,
Rovers don't stay away the night before Derry/harps matches as they don't have the budget, the players lack of commitment in your eyes has them second in the league. Enjoy your win but calm down.

As regards embarrassment, have a look at your players efforts against other teams, your lack of effort to even keep the weeds down in your stadium and .....eh ...bob Marley image rights...... :)
Bohs don't have a divine right to win every game and unfortunately we can't play Shamrock Rovers every week. Hopefully Shamrock Rovers keep on doing what they're doing. Spoofer manager and alot of bang players basically stealing a wage from the club. Does Joey O'Brien wear a balaclava going into training? An embarrassment of a footballer these days

[nigel-harps1954]

Lol , comedy gold,
Rovers don't stay away the night before Derry/harps matches as they don't have the budget, the players lack of commitment in your eyes has them second in the league. Enjoy your win but calm down.

As regards embarrassment, have a look at your players efforts against other teams, your lack of effort to even keep the weeds down in your stadium and .....eh ...bob Marley image rights...... :)

Rovers stayed up in Letterkenny the night before playing Harps a few weeks ago.

[marinobohs]

Lol , comedy gold,
Rovers don't stay away the night before Derry/harps matches as they don't have the budget, the players lack of commitment in your eyes has them second in the league. Enjoy your win but calm down.

As regards embarrassment, have a look at your players efforts against other teams, your lack of effort to even keep the weeds down in your stadium and .....eh ...bob Marley image rights...... :)

Which game were the Bohs players “embarrassing “ in ? For part time players they have been exemplary all season. Lost some games alright but who didn’t ?

Stadium was cleared up - by volunteers and is in a better state than Milltown 😁
Your joke of a club with its bought history and ridiculous sense of self importance gives all fans a laugh - cup specialists 😁 really ? Lecturing on fan owned (100 years after Bohs were doing it) before pimping the club out the first chance you got.. pretending you are at the level of Dundalk - delusions of adequacy for a joke club with no history careering towards the next bankruptcy

[Nesta99]

Dont hold back or anything Marino! All fans have done the 'self importance' things when top of the heap though maybe Rovers retained it when not top of the heap at time.

[sbgawa]

Which game were the Bohs players “embarrassing “ in ? For part time players they have been exemplary all season. Lost some games alright but who didn’t ?

Stadium was cleared up - by volunteers and is in a better state than Milltown 😁
Your joke of a club with its bought history and ridiculous sense of self importance gives all fans a laugh - cup specialists 😁 really ? Lecturing on fan owned (100 years after Bohs were doing it) before pimping the club out the first chance you got.. pretending you are at the level of Dundalk - delusions of adequacy for a joke club with no history careering towards the next bankruptcy

Your on a good run but your an irelevence in the overall scheme of things apart from your potential to help dundalk win the league due to your results against us (fair dues) but it's not much to hang on to in terms of self worth

[dong]

This whole 'part time' thing is overplayed imo.
Bohs are able to attract a far better calibre of player than, say, ourselves or Finn Harps by virtue of location.
Sligo Rovers status as 'full time' doesn't mean much in this context although the comparison with Shanrock Rovers is valid. Shams should probably really be beating them out the door every time they meet given resources available and equal availability of quality players. They are higher up the tablee tbough to be fair. Just my opinion.

[sbgawa]

The bombast from the bohs fans enjoying their 3rd place position in the league is tempting me to start to cheer for the new anchor tennants in north Dublin county council stadium Shelbourne.......maybe not.

[bennocelt]

I'm not sure which part of my post you think is "rubbish"

The statistics clearly prove the improvement in points gained per game

2016 - 1.67 points per game
2017 - 1.64 points per game
2018 - 1.72 points per game
2019 - 2.10 points per game

If the rate of improvement continues anything is possible in the seasons ahead

Stats and more stats............:rolleyes:

[Ezeikial]

Stats and more stats............:rolleyes:

Good sport bennocelt!

Those were indeed stats that show how Rovers have improved in the area of points won each season since 2017.

[mcgonigle]

Rovers stayed up in Letterkenny the night before playing Harps a few weeks ago.

The players paid for that themselves. Sure they pay subs each week

[Kingswood Rover]

Stats and more stats............:rolleyes:

FINALLY MANAGED TO LOG IN ........i have been ill since Friday, wtf, Rovers booed off and deservedly so. Mr Carr please sort yourself out ffs. the ten point thing looking iffy.

[Calcio Jack]

Bohs players are part time, so they dont have recovery time that full time sides do. With full time sides like Rovers they can stay overnight for games like Finn Harps/Derry and can have recovery days for their players. Bohs dont have that luxury. James Talbot for example was playing/training for Bohs and then getting up at 5am next day to go work for An Post.

Shamrock Rovers as a club are an embarrassment. From poor management, players lacking in effort/commitment only interested in getting their money every week and the fans hammering the players at the final whistle Friday night the club seems a joke from top to bottom. Rovers mave have money but you can't buy class.

Bohs from the directors to the players and the fans are united and pulling in the right direction. Hopefully that answers ypur question why Bohs are everything that Shamrock Rovers aren't.

Actually no as you didn’t answer the question I asked , anyway good luck with your beliefs as outlined above.

[marinobohs]

Your on a good run but your an irelevence in the overall scheme of things apart from your potential to help dundalk win the league due to your results against us (fair dues) but it's not much to hang on to in terms of self worth

As relevant as shams 😁 keep kidding yourself you are actually challenging.for the title, just like you have for years now. Oh, and the "Cup Specialists" 😁
Maybe you can buy some more history off the FAI, because you sure aren't going to make any.

[marinobohs]

The bombast from the bohs fans enjoying their 3rd place position in the league is tempting me to start to cheer for the new anchor tennants in north Dublin county council stadium Shelbourne.......maybe not.

Well like Bohs, they did help you out when you were homeless 😁

[Kingswood Rover]

No sure about Bolger going missing i thought Byrne and him were the only effective 2 in getting things going. Clarke was he even on the pitch in the first half, he was terrified of getting caught out with that little ball in behind which was his undoing in the last game. Has not been the same since the cruicate. Joey O Brien was a huge loss. we have two players who are less comfortable with the ball at their feet ie Lopez and Ethan Boyle it was embarrassing looking at them at times on Friday Night. Was O Brien injured?? or gone to some Wedding. We played some good stuff at times by at this stage its a psychologist we need. Bradley's after match interview ask my swiss. Bohs hats off great stuff and brilliant support.

[Kingswood Rover]

This is not a blip. This is turning into a tradition. Far more experienced and expensive Rovers teams put to the sword by Bohs. Last night Bohs were short 6 1st teamers and lost 4 more players injured in the game and yet still somehow found a way to win. That's humiliating and Rovers should be embarassed
As much as i hate to admit it your sentiments are spot on.

[Dalymountrower]

Long enough around to remember an unbeaten run by Rovers against us of 13 /14 ? games from 1984 until we beat them in the RDS ( and kept beating them there). Probably four years or so. The longer it went on the more the Bohs fans and players expected not to win. Rovers seem to have that mindset now. Glittering array of passing in midfield and then indecision/freezing up/over committing in each penalty area. Would confidently expect Rovers to go on an unbeaten run now until they play us again in 11 weeks.
Karma being what it is, though , I would not be surprised if Rovers beat us in the cup final , killing two hoodoos in one, and Stephen Bradley is the man to do it.

What with Aishleigh Grimes reminiscing at half time about his Mandriou like wonder goal v Rovers in a cup replay in the 70`s and an apparently stirring pre match speech to players from Warren O Hora, visiting back from Brighton, Long and Crolly seem to be able to organise the right psychological uplift for the team for the derby. f only we could do the same v Dundalk and Cork!

[Calcio Jack]

Long enough around to remember an unbeaten run by Rovers against us of 13 /14 ? games from 1984 until we beat them in the RDS ( and kept beating them there). Probably four years or so. The longer it went on the more the Bohs fans and players expected not to win. Rovers seem to have that mindset now. Glittering array of passing in midfield and then indecision/freezing up/over committing in each penalty area. Would confidently expect Rovers to go on an unbeaten run now until they play us again in 11 weeks.
Karma being what it is, though , I would not be surprised if Rovers beat us in the cup final , killing two hoodoos in one, and Stephen Bradley is the man to do it.

What with Aishleigh Grimes reminiscing at half time about his Mandriou like wonder goal v Rovers in a cup replay in the 70`s and an apparently stirring pre match speech to players from Warren O Hora, visiting back from Brighton, Long and Crolly seem to be able to organise the right psychological uplift for the team for the derby. f only we could do the same v Dundalk and Cork!

Sadly I had to suffer the pain of seeing both goals you refer to above- think the Grimes goal was 1974- that was the season Rovers dispensed with their whole squad aside from Johnny Fulham & Leech and replaced them with a squad of 18 year olds (including Alan O’Neill) . The first game finished 1-1 (Leech) but then we were hammered 4-0 in the replay, Grimes did score a cracker but it wasn’t as good as last Friday’s goal - and I was just as angry then as I was last Friday- the big difference being in 1974 we were the underdogs - but the one constant is that over time each of us will have periods of dominance in derbies so enjoy your current moment in the sun - and when we next best you it will be our turn to brag.

[wexfordned]

Actually no as you didn’t answer the question I asked , anyway good luck with your beliefs as outlined above.

So you don't think getting up at 5am before training/playing matches affects performance or part time players working and playing 3 games in a week might be an issue either.

It's probably a coinidence as well that that the 2 sides with lowest budgets are the bottom 2 and the 2 sides with the biggest budgets are the top 2.

[Real ale Madrid]

LLO0p4ciSA4

The Dublin Derby

Did this appear on the main Sportcenter programme Saturday night Stu?

Fantastic in any case.

[Dalymountrower]

Sadly I had to suffer the pain of seeing both goals you refer to above- think the Grimes goal was 1974- that was the season Rovers dispensed with their whole squad aside from Johnny Fulham & Leech and replaced them with a squad of 18 year olds (including Alan O’Neill) . The first game finished 1-1 (Leech) but then we were hammered 4-0 in the replay, Grimes did score a cracker but it wasn’t as good as last Friday’s goal - and I was just as angry then as I was last Friday- the big difference being in 1974 we were the underdogs - but the one constant is that over time each of us will have periods of dominance in derbies so enjoy your current moment in the sun - and when we next best you it will be our turn to brag.
Making me feel old now.Memory playing tricks.Thought it was later than 74. Mitched off school to on a Wednesday afternoon, pre flood lights in Milltown.Could have sworn Johnny Fulham played the whole season for us in 74.Did Mick Leach not go to Waterford the year before.?
Apart from the Grimes goal, my abiding memory of the day is that a few of us Bohs kids started celibrating upstairs on the bus back to town when a well known Rovers fan , and An Poblacht seller outside the GPO, came upstairs, gave us a murderous look, but then quiely said"fair enough" and went back downstairs, to our young relief.

As you say CJ, what goes around comes around.Enough years of grief and humiliation behind me to enjoy the brief bright spells.

[Nesta99]

Did this appear on the main Sportcenter programme Saturday night Stu?

Fantastic in any case.

Its is indeed fantastic to get that exposure. If only our Association rowed in behind the product.. though there is some satisfaction in getting some publicity irrespective of the contempt the FAI shows the league!

[mcgonigle]

So you don't think getting up at 5am before training/playing matches affects performance or part time players working and playing 3 games in a week might be an issue either.

It's probably a coinidence as well that that the 2 sides with lowest budgets are the bottom 2 and the 2 sides with the biggest budgets are the top 2.

Have to correct you here because Rovers are in the top two....

[Real ale Madrid]

Its is indeed fantastic to get that exposure. If only our Association rowed in behind the product.. though there is some satisfaction in getting some publicity irrespective of the contempt the FAI shows the league!

Did the FAI account even retweet it?

[Nesta99]

Have to correct you here because Rovers are in the top two....

and that 8 or maybe 9 teams have the 4th highest budget!

[wexfordned]

Have to correct you here because Rovers are in the top two....

That's what I said. the two clubs with the lowest budgets are the bottom two in the league and the two clubs with the highest budgets are the top 2.

[marinobohs]

That's what I said. the two clubs with the lowest budgets are the bottom two in the league and the two clubs with the highest budgets are the top 2.

This is an egalitarian League, EVERYONE has the 4th highest budget ;) I read it on this forum so it must be true !

[Calcio Jack]

Making me feel old now.Memory playing tricks.Thought it was later than 74. Mitched off school to on a Wednesday afternoon, pre flood lights in Milltown.Could have sworn Johnny Fulham played the whole season for us in 74.Did Mick Leach not go to Waterford the year before.?
Apart from the Grimes goal, my abiding memory of the day is that a few of us Bohs kids started celibrating upstairs on the bus back to town when a well known Rovers fan , and An Poblacht seller outside the GPO, came upstairs, gave us a murderous look, but then quiely said"fair enough" and went back downstairs, to our young relief.

As you say CJ, what goes around comes around.Enough years of grief and humiliation behind me to enjoy the brief bright spells.


I’m open to correction re the year - re the well known Rovers fan, harmless fella , he was in so many ‘fights’ *we ended up nicknaming him ‘braindead’, not sure is he still around but when we moved to Tallaght for a few seasons fans used to do a collection to pay for his season ticket which meant the world to him poor soul-


* on one occasion late 70s when Spurs were playing a pre-season friendly in Dayler , the Spurs fans had taken over the shed- Paddy and one of his mates armed with a golf club charged the shed to reclaim it- the Gardai then waded in and beat/arrested the troublemakers ( a few Spurs fans)

[Dalymountrower]

Sadly I had to suffer the pain of seeing both goals you refer to above- think the Grimes goal was 1974- that was the season Rovers dispensed with their whole squad aside from Johnny Fulham & Leech and replaced them with a squad of 18 year olds (including Alan O’Neill) . The first game finished 1-1 (Leech) but then we were hammered 4-0 in the replay, Grimes did score a cracker but it wasn’t as good as last Friday’s goal - and I was just as angry then as I was last Friday- the big difference being in 1974 we were the underdogs - but the one constant is that over time each of us will have periods of dominance in derbies so enjoy your current moment in the sun - and when we next best you it will be our turn to brag.


I’m open to correction re the year - re the well known Rovers fan, harmless fella , he was in so many ‘fights’ *we ended up nicknaming him ‘braindead’, not sure is he still around but when we moved to Tallaght for a few seasons fans used to do a collection to pay for his season ticket which meant the world to him poor soul-


* on one occasion late 70s when Spurs were playing a pre-season friendly in Dayler , the Spurs fans had taken over the shed- Paddy and one of his mates armed with a golf club charged the shed to reclaim it- the Gardai then waded in and beat/arrested the troublemakers ( a few Spurs fans)
Spurs v Bohs, Ardiles and Ricky Villa made their debut believe it or not.
Paddy was that man alright.!

[TonyD]

This is an egalitarian League, EVERYONE has the 4th highest budget ;) I read it on this forum so it must be true !

It's a hotly contested title alright. I think we held it at one stage :cool:

[marinobohs]

It's a hotly contested title alright. I think we held it at one stage :cool:

I think EVERYONE held it. At the same time 😉

[mcgonigle]

That's what I said. the two clubs with the lowest budgets are the bottom two in the league and the two clubs with the highest budgets are the top 2.

Sbgawa will be along shortly to educate you, sit tight

[Nesta99]

Spurs v Bohs, Ardiles and Ricky Villa made their debut believe it or not.
Paddy was that man alright.!

This is a potential thread in itself. While not so illustrious as Ardiles or Villa and I say that considering the chap has Champions League medals Steve McManaman made his debut in a friendly against Dundalk. When the announcer called the substitution many of the well schooled Liverpool fans in the vicinity scoffed and laughed thinking it was Steve McMahon that was meant and it was a Dundalkism or an eccentric PA announcer mumbling the name. The majority of the crowd where I was behind the Carrick Goal seemed to be from North so whether that had anything to do with the confusion I dunno. What I do remember was the crush and kids, I was 12/13, being helped over the perimeter fence to the touchline for safety, that was '91 I think so considering the recent history of Liverpool then it was a bit ropey. I vaguely remember the attendance being given as 12k and it really wasnt a 'safe holding capacity' if that was accurate! Apart from ticket sales there was definitely cash being taken at the turnstiles so 12k was certainly possible and maybe more there. It still baffles me on how 18k or so were rammed in to essentially the same ground as today for the EC Cup game v Celtic and UEFA Cup game v Spurs not so long after.

[Kingswood Rover]

Making me feel old now.Memory playing tricks.Thought it was later than 74. Mitched off school to on a Wednesday afternoon, pre flood lights in Milltown.Could have sworn Johnny Fulham played the whole season for us in 74.Did Mick Leach not go to Waterford the year before.?
Apart from the Grimes goal, my abiding memory of the day is that a few of us Bohs kids started celibrating upstairs on the bus back to town when a well known Rovers fan , and An Poblacht seller outside the GPO, came upstairs, gave us a murderous look, but then quiely said"fair enough" and went back downstairs, to our young relief.

As you say CJ, what goes around comes around.Enough years of grief and humiliation behind me to enjoy the brief bright spells.

The Chap in question is alive and well i meet up with him every now again at a mens shed type morning. He does not go to Tallaght as much but any time i meet him its all about Rovers