Carew V Westport

[OpenGoal]

As a total independent on sunday, I must say the scenes were appalling. Bottles, plates, cans all thrown at the opposition crowd and players. Players getting headbutted and then being attacked when first aid was being administered. Oppositions fans attacked outside the ground, an old woman threatened at knife point and her purse nicked of 8 quid and thirsty five pence. Two young fans from westport had their legs broken by baseball bats just outside colbert station. Another man is in cirictal condition with a pitchfork woumd to his throat. A family were savagely attacked by a skinhead with two pitbull terriers. Running riots ensued for 45 mins after full-time. One bunch of away fans had to flee in terror after a hooded individual produced a rocket-propelled grenade launcher and pointed in it their direction. Riot police were called in from 45 neighbouring towns and villages to quell the violence which by some accounts is still raging today , 48 hours later.............


So Westport, the pigs must be f*cked at this stage....................they were flying all over jackman skies on sunday!!!!!!!!!

Stop F*cking moaning and get on with it!

"The sh*t piled up so fast around here, you'd need wings to stay above it"
- Captain Willard(Apocalypse Now)

[mullerj52]

OK, before this gets out of hand, a couple of things.
1. Carew were desperately unlucky. If they had scored just after Westport took the lead then it might have been a different story.
2. The game was a classic. I was fortunate to be there as a neutral(in the crowd) and i enjoyed one of the best games this year.
3. Carew's support for most of the game was fantastic, they roared on their team like real fans, it was just at the end when the sending off's took place that the mood darkened.
4. In talking to a westport fan after the game i was told that plates were thrown, but in saying that in talking to a collegue after the game he didnt see anything(six of one etc).
and finally, Carew have a reason to be angry and who can blame them. If the roles were reversed and the result reversed I have no doubt that Westport would be just as ****ed off. But the blame falls squarely at the feet of the FAI and the fact that the oldest rule in the book was not adhered to, if you are sent off you miss a game. that has been a FIFA and UEFA rule since the beginning of competition. Even in the world cup in 1930 the same applied. The real tragedy is that these two games were probably the best attended and most exciting of the whole competition and they will never be remembered for that. I hope all fans agree with me on this and that the final will be just as good.
By the way, any official news on the final and when?

[backodanet]

2. The game was a classic. I was fortunate to be there as a neutral(in the crowd) and i enjoyed one of the best games this year.



a classic i think not

[LFC in Exile]

there was a child and woman hit by flying plates. A player for Westport, Dessie O Malley was almost hit by a plate thrown from flats near the grounds.

I am not sayin you are right or wrong - I wasn't at the game. But I know Jackman Park. If the Westport fans were put at the far end of the ground (railway end) as some posters here said - it would be very hard for someone in the flats to be able to through a plate from the flats and reach the wall around the pitch. Never mind hit a player on the pitch. It must be at 200 metres from the wall of the flats to the wall of the pitch. That's some throw. :ball:

As for Dessie O'Malley - he wouldn't get too many votes up that end anyway - but having a plate thrown at him is a bit much. Must be one of Groucho O'Dea's lads. :)

[Raoul Duke]

I was at Jackman Park, and the emphasis should be on the game and not the "riot" after. Westport won 2-0 and Carew Park have every reason to be agrieved. Winning a game and then having it revoked is bound to cause frustration. There was minimal violence, a few thumps at the whistle, the game was dead and buried at that stage and Carew Park acted (admittedly unsportingly) like any annoyed side would. we have seen things like this happen at all levels of football, and much worse.
The "riot" after from my perspective (right beside it) was a lot of abuse and not much violence. I have to say well done to the FAI for having 70 security officers there. They made a difference. I saw one bottle being thrown and it didn't hit anyone. It looked like a token effort, something for the local papers to pick up on and blow out of proportion. Westport had their second chance and took it. It wasn't their fault that Carew fielded a suspended player. Its a basic rule that applies at every standard of the game. They chose to investigate, and if the shoe was on the other foot, i'm sure would have tried to get a replay also.

[joeSoap]

· Fact 1: Carew Park won the initial tie on the pitch.
· Fact 2: They played an illegal player.
· Fact 3: They did this with the permission of a member of the FAI Junior Council
· Fact 4: The council member had no right to inform Carew Park of this.
· Fact 5: Westport had every right to appeal as they were beaten by a side who were technically illegal.
· Fact 6: Carew Park have every right to feel totally gutted by this decision as they only did what they were told all along by the FAI.
· Fact 7: Due to the amazing balls-up by our governing body, the match had to be replayed.
· Fact 8: The sad fact is that one team here was always going to lose out, with Carew Park being the more unlucky of the two.

There is nothing that can be done about any of the above facts. It is neither Carew Parks or Westports faults as they were always both going to do whatever they could to ensure their clubs progress in this competition. Nobody can blame Westport for taking it so far, Carew would have done exactly the same if the shoe was on the other foot.

· Fact 9: Our National football body is a pathetic shambles, run by small minded, ignorant men who don’t fully understand the passion, loyalty or commitment shown by junior clubs. They are a disgrace and should be made accountable. The least Carew Park should get now is serious financial compensation for loss of gate revenue in the final, and for being denied the chance to win the greatest junior football competition in Europe. This should not end here, and I hope it doesn’t. Somebodys head should roll, and I think we all know whose it is. :mad: :mad:

[joeSoap]

Can the above post either be seriously edited or deleted please? This is a football forum, not a personal insult trading mechanism. Irrespective of what did or didn't happen at that game, I for one take personal offence when somebody new comes on here, not understanding what this forum is all about and has blatant disregard for both my city and this forum.

Go back to whatever gutter forums you've been using for that tripe please.

[Roadend]

^ You forgot to add, by Madmax age:9

[Bonovox]

Madmax.....aged 9 and a vegetable. Why don't you give your address and we can discuss it over a pint!!

[mullerj52]

This is not a forum about one upmanship, anyway. I doubt Madmax would be so loud if his/her club were in the same situtation.
BTW, I still think it was a classic. missed chances on goal, good football, great goalkeeping by both Stewart and Mcgreal. Both outstanding.
Credit where its due, if we forget about the last moments, it was a great game.
Final offically fixed for June 19th. Venue TBC.

[dahamsta]

madmax has been banned for a week and notified of the banning. Thank you to the solitary person that took a minute out of their day to report the issue to me. Well done to the rest of you for responding in the most likely way to encourage him.

I'm putting this on the record now so I can refer to it later: The Junior League forum is wasting a lot of my time with with abuse and general flaming and trolling issues. If the members of this forum don't start doing more to police themselves, I will close it down.

adam

[Thunderblaster]

meantime the rumour gathering pace in Limerick is that
the team that used paperwork instead of footwork to get the opportunity to get to the final used four subs in the re-fixed match at Jackman? if they did
then there is grounds for appeal ......

It is important that Carew Park can prove beyond all reasonable doubt that such an infringement took place before submitting an objection, and have every right to do so. Anyhow, this "mutual hatred" between Carew Park and Westport United is getting downright stupid and boring. At this stage, all sides should call a truce, bury the hatchet and get on with the football. We all have to move on from what had been the most embarrassing 9 weeks for Irish junior soccer. Life is too short for all this carry on. In a real life or death situation, all this would be put into perspective.

[dahamsta]

Stinger, pick a thread and post your comment, period. I've deleted your dupes, and I'll delete your username if it happens again.

adam

[OscarBravo]

Three subs were all that Westport used.
Kevin Joyce came on for David Cameron on the right wing
Eoghan Gillen came on for Gerry McLoughlin on the left
Colm Keane came on for the injured Martin Geraghty at the back
Maybe Carew are confused due to the Geraghty switch. He came off for treatment, came back on for a minute before having to come off again. Then Colm Keane came on, maybe in that cameo Carew believe two substitutions were made.
Anyhow the fourth official would only allow three. Carew should make sure they have their facts present and correct before going down this route.

[dahamsta]

are you saying that you can only post a comment on one thread ?On subjects like this, yes. People in this forum will view all of the threads in here, so they'll be stuck reading yours three times. That's called spam.

I've deleted your other post, you'll need to post it again with your caps lock turned off.

adam

[gnasher]

Stinger, is that video being handed to the DPP? I'd say there may be a few interested Gardai who would like to get there hands on it.
The sour grapes regarding this shambles have been resurrected by Carew.
If there is a case to be made then i'm sure it will happen. The obvious risk is that the FAI will wipe their hands of the whole competition and call it all off.
That would not be a good result for anyone.
I have reviewed every inch of column space on the replay and although I hate to admit it, the hacks seem to have got it right; Westport 3 subs, Carew 2 subs. End of story. Guys who go to more matches than you or I will ever see are not going to miss that, are they? Surely, the two linesmen, Ref, fourth official, Westport Managment and half of southhill would have seen it as well?
Maybe I'm clutching at straws...seems contagious on this thread.

[dahamsta]

**** you !you english ***** !I'm english? Has someone informed my parents?

Call me a name stinger. I dare you.

adam

[Éanna]

Total Bull**** one can was thrown on to the the pitch and that was it..Less of the crap talk
"crap talk"? I asked what happened, because I had been told there was war and I wanted to find out if it was true- I had a suspicion that your man was exagerrating it because it was in Limerick. Having lived in Limerick for the best part of 4 years I know how quick people are to exagerrate anything becayse the place has a bad reputation

[RojaMilla]

Any further news on Stingers fresh objection story ?

[magic_man]

there are various rumours flying around here that carew will have half of munster supporting them.
anyone from westport should not be afraid of travelling.
southill people can be pretty intimidating but the only people who might start are non soccer ones who might show up worse for wear but carew cannot be responsible for them.



westport were in southill already when they played pike and had no bothers,dont compare pike and carew cos as clubs there is no comparison and the wesport lads will tell u that

[dahamsta]

madmax banned, posts deleted, thread locked.

adam