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Gerrit
22/04/2005, 5:45 PM
Inspired by the Fabien Barthez topic... Who do you find the best goalies in the world ?


Currently there's a few of them that are really outstanding.

In France I have always admired Gregory Coupet (Lyon) and Mickael Landreau (Nantes). Both are top class keepers since years, and it's incredible how experienced Landreau is despite being only 25 (he first made the Nantes premier squad at the age of 16).

Gianluigi Buffon may be a bit clownesk sometimes and got in bad papers a few times after being assaulted of Nazi sympathies (which was completely not the case though) but he is undoubtly a superb goalkeeper. Has a rather spectacular style as well, and is a great leader for a defense. And a specialist in stopping penalties.

Shay Given : sober, reliable, has the experience he needs, world class !

Oliver Kahn : his best years may be over, but even at the age of 35 he is still a great goalkeeper on which you can rely (few exceptions last year but he had private problems back then). A great leader for a defense, experienced goalkeeper, great reflexes but also great authority in the penalty zone.

But my absolute number one is definitely Iker Casillas. Made the premier squad of Real Madrid at 17 and never lost his place, meanwhile he is also undoubtful number 1 choice for the Spanish national side. A sober goalkeeper, but man what a fantastic reflexes ! Also has much experience despite his young age.



In the rather recent past:

Peter Schmeichel was my prefered choice in his generation. A goalkeeper with great reflexes, authority in the penalty zone, a very good footballer as well that could serve as a sort of second sweeper, knows how to lead a defense, reliable, strong. And he made a few goals even !

Jose Luis Chilavert used to be a great goalie with fantastic keeping capacities in his best days, but also a free kick specialist who scored several goals for both Velez Sarsfield and Paraguay. Also a very charismatic person who was loved by all the fans of all clubs he played for.

I don't know for sure where he is now, but Recber Rustu is a great goalkeeper with fantastic reflexes. Probably the first world class goalkeeper Turkey ever had, and he was a key player in Turkey's bronze medal winning squad at the latest World Cup. He failed in Barcelona, but many Turkish players fail abroad due to home sickness, once back in Turkey they almost always retrieve their old form and prove they're still tip top.

Kasey Keller was a favourite of mine when he played for Leicester. I watched Premier League football every weekend on the Belgian TV and was wild about his rather spectacular yet very efficient goalkeeping style. Had the bad luck never to be a certainty in the USA squad because with Brad Friedel they had a second keeper of great class. I'd prefer Keller anytime though.

Nigmatullin from Spartak and later Lokomotiv Moscow and the Russian national squad, was one of those goalkeepers that in my opinion could have reached much higher. Great goalkeeper, sober and not too often in the spotlights off the field, but a great goalie.

And there comes the one with whom many of you most likely will have a mock... But one of the reasons why I became an Aston Villa supporter, was Mark Bosnich, who I still think could have stayed a top goalkeeper for many more years if he didn't go off the right track. With Villa though, he was by far my favourite player and he did great things for AVFC.




There's my list. Now sound off... And I wonder if any Man U fan here will name Roy Carroll ;)

Soper
22/04/2005, 6:07 PM
Nicky Broujous :D

Nah, in all seriousness, I have a few that I like.Leo Franco from Mallorca is one to watch I think.Also, Sebastien Frey, another in the long tradition of good French keepers ;)

Casillas of course is a great keeper, as is Given.I always like Sasa Ilic after watching him for Charlton versus Shams in Tolka, not world class or anything though.Cech is good too, as is Robinson from spurs.

Honourable mentions for the past go to Schmeichel, Tim Flowers, Zubizerreta, Packie Bonner, and Andreas Kopke.

Gerrit
22/04/2005, 6:12 PM
Cech indeed top class as well, I forgot him...
Zubizarretta ? :eek:

Soper
22/04/2005, 6:19 PM
haah, zubizarretta was a legend!

tonycuna
22/04/2005, 7:43 PM
At the moment, I think Given is living a wonderful season, and this is good for us. :p
Then one between Buffon or Dida, maybe is the best today.
I agree with the good class of Coupet from O. Lyon, and Cech, but I think that the Chelsea Gk take good advantage from a wonderful organization at the back, from Mourinho's way. I still can't see Cech with a poor defence, show the same class.. :rolleyes:

I like very much Pato Abbondanzieri from River Plate. I like his leadership, and he's very good to block penalties

From the recent past I always loved David Seaman, cause I started to support Arsenal when Graham's reign was near to the end. That was my first years as a Gooner, and what a wonderful defence! Seaman, Dixon, Bould, Adams, Winterburn :o

I liked Zubizarreta too, along with Campos from Mexico and Taffarel from Brazil

De Town
22/04/2005, 8:00 PM
Digger O'Brien by far ;)

Closed Account 2
22/04/2005, 10:19 PM
Akinfeev of CSKA Moscow, having a great season in the CL and now UEFA Cup, only 18.

Gerrit
23/04/2005, 2:05 AM
The lad's only 18 ?? Bright future ahead then...

Taffarel was class indeed, very underestimated but very reliable... Jorge Campos was very spectacular but don't know if it's really the most reliable lad to put between the posts...

Colie
23/04/2005, 2:11 AM
Buffon, best in the world; no doubt.

gustavo
23/04/2005, 12:14 PM
the guy kameni is gonna be a prospect thats for sure ... best at the mo probably between casillas buffon and cech also watch out for lastuvka another czech who plays for shatkar donetsk

brine3
23/04/2005, 12:43 PM
Francesco Toldo is my favourite goalkeeper. I'll never forget his performances at Euro 2000, especially against Holland in the semi-final in Amsterdam. Pity that shot from Wiltord in the 93rd minute of the final crept under his hand.

stojkovic
23/04/2005, 1:30 PM
Currently ;
Czech
Given
Dida
Buffon
Cassillas

Recent Past ;
Kahn
Barthez
Fillol
Chilavert
Zubizaretta
Schmichel

Ever ;
Yashin
Banks
Schumacher
Maier
Zoff

ciaran76
24/04/2005, 9:01 AM
Neville Southall was a top keeper in the 80's too.
Very underestimated i think. He won player of the year award in 1987 or around that time.

tonycuna
24/04/2005, 10:04 AM
Yep, good gk Southall..
Also Walter Zenga was wonderful in late80s and early 90s, they called him "uomo ragno"-"spiderman" ;) I liked very much him!

Green Tribe
24/04/2005, 10:19 AM
Yep, good gk Southall..
Also Walter Zenga was wonderful in late80s and early 90s, they called him "uomo ragno"-"spiderman" ;) I liked very much him!


hey tony!

= I liked him very much :D

prego, prego! :D

tonycuna
24/04/2005, 10:43 AM
hey tony!

= I liked him very much :D

prego, prego! :D

UUUUUUHHHH you're right!!!!

What a gaffe!, sorry, it's not an usual thing, :p
I woke up ten mins ago... :D

Thanks ;)

Gerrit
24/04/2005, 5:08 PM
Very spectacular keeper was also Rene Higuita, his so called "scorpion save" has been on TV worldwide...

Jacques Songo'o without any doubt the greatest African goalkeeper, has had magnificent years with Deportivo La Coruna.

Plastic Paddy
24/04/2005, 5:21 PM
David Marshall. A legend aged only 20. :D

Five points clear and romping...

:D PP

Éanna
24/04/2005, 5:45 PM
IMO Casillas, Cech, Given and Buffon are the best around at the moment. Not much between them at all

Thomo
24/04/2005, 7:08 PM
Current:
hlidebrande
cech
given
frey
pelizollli
toldo

past:
kahn
scmeicheil ( bad drunken spelling)
flowers


and of course teh best of course for teh future past and present : manuel almunia :o

Hibs4Ever
25/04/2005, 9:45 AM
CURRENTLY:

Petr Cech
Barry Ryan :D

PAST:

Neville Southall - PURE CLASS

Superhoops
25/04/2005, 4:23 PM
Current:
hlidebrande
cech
given
frey
pelizollli
toldo

past:
kahn
scmeicheil ( bad drunken spelling)
flowers


and of course teh best of course for teh future past and present : manuel almunia :o
Hard to imagine that any list of the top 6 keepers in the world currently would not include Cassilas or Buffon. I would have thought that both would be automatic choices. Personally I rate Buffon the best,, closely followed by Cassilas.

REVIP
25/04/2005, 4:31 PM
Past:

Ferenc Puskas - Hungary
Felix - Brazil
Gordon Banks - England
Dino Zoff - Italy

Present:

Petr Cech - Czech Republic

strangeirish
25/04/2005, 5:17 PM
Past:

Pat Jennings and Ray Clemence anyone????????

pineapple stu
25/04/2005, 5:33 PM
Past:

Ferenc Puskas - Hungary
That well-known keeper? ;)

A couple who may deserve their place would be Rinat Dassayev (generally considered on of the best in the world in the 80s with the USSR), Peter Shilton and Walter Zenga. I alwasy thought Alan Kelly (junior) was criminally underrated. That said...


Barry Ryan :D

Can't argue with that! :p

REVIP
25/04/2005, 6:02 PM
Asthmatic seizure.

Sorry, Stu, senior moment, should have been Grosics, a mighty Magyar.

Sepp Mair (spelling?) was outstanding.

There was a south American keeper in the '80s who used to do amazing stunts - can't think of his name

strangeirish
25/04/2005, 7:17 PM
.

There was a south American keeper in the '80s who used to do amazing stunts - can't think of his name

Are you talking about this guy (http://fcsc8041.home.comcast.net/HiguitaScorpion.htm)

Gerrit
28/04/2005, 10:09 PM
Worst thing ever seen was Higuita trying to go into attack himself, started dribbling and lost the ball at the midfield, the opponents ran towards the empty goal and finished it... Even though for the public this is legendaric, it's a bit ridiculous when a goalkeeper wants to play striker. Jorge Campos also did it a few times but never risked it in an official game, just in friendlies.

crc
28/04/2005, 10:21 PM
Lads, lads...

my favourite goalkeeper ever was Bruce Grobbelaar (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ned=&q=bruce+grobbelaar&ie=UTF-8&lr=&sa=N&tab=ni) , closely followed by Peter Schmeichel (who was absolutely awesome).

Maybe I'm a bit partizan, but at the moment I think were blessed to have a goalie like Shay Given. However Packie Bonner (http://www.clubi.ie/fpage/history/pics/90irevrom1.jpg) is the goalie that has provided the single most extatic goalkeeping moment of my life!

Gerrit
28/04/2005, 10:23 PM
Isn't that that save that's painted on a wall within the famous pub/restaurant "Cookoo's Nest" along Greenhills Road in Tallaght ??

Ireland's had some very good goalkeepers during the last decades. Given is absolute world class.

crc
28/04/2005, 10:26 PM
Isn't that that save that's painted on a wall within the famous pub/restaurant "Cookoo's Nest" along Greenhills Road in Tallaght ??Dunno, but its etched into my mind anyway!

I was only 8 at the time, we went absolutely crazy after it (and of course O'Leary's peno). Somehow I remember jumping ontop of cars in the centre of Buncranna! :D

CollegeTillIDie
28/04/2005, 10:43 PM
Ok the 10 best EL keepers I have seen would be in no particular order....
Mick Smyth ( Shamrock Rovers, Bohemians and Athlone Town)
Kevin Fitzpatrick ( Limerick F.C., Limerick United)
Alek Ludzik [R.I.P.] (Cork Celtic, Cork Alberts, Cork United, Limerick City, Cobh Ramblers, Cork City)
Richie Blackmore( Dundalk,Galway United)
Alan O'Neill ( Shamrock Rovers, UCD, Dundalk, Shamrock Rovers, Sligo Rovers, UCD)
Dave Henderson( Shamrock Rovers, Home Farm, Drogheda United, St.Patrick's Athletic, Bohemians)
Anthony Keenan( Athlone Town, Longford Town, Athlone Town Cobh Ramblers, Longford Town)
Jodi Byrne( Dundalk, Shamrock Rovers, Shelbourne, Cork City, Waterford United, UCD)
Jim Grace( Home Farm, Shelbourne, Athlone Town, St. Patrick's Athletic, Athlone Town, Longford Town)
Barry Ryan (UCD, Shamrock Rovers, Dublin City, St.Patrick's Athletic)

Other goodies... Seamus Kelly (UCD, St. Pat's and Bohs)
Paul Kavanagh( UCD, Shamrock Rovers, Dundalk)

Best world goalies I have seen(mostly on TV) over time
Gordon Banks(England) Ladislao Mazurkiewicz(Uruguay) Pat Jennings Senior (Norn Iron) Ivo Viktor(Czechoslovakia) Juergen Croy (East Germany)
Ray Clemence( England),Enver Maric (Yugoslavia), Alan Kelly Senior (Republic of Ireland), Packie Bonner( ditto), Dai Davies (Wales) , Neville Southall (Wales), David Harvey (Scotland) and my all time favourite Dino Zoff (Italy)


I'll think about the best current ones and post them later.

Worst keepers are easy. Felix (Brazil) and Pavel Srnicek( Czech Republic)