Tonight's games [Archive] - Page 2

Calcio Jack

31/03/2019, 10:01 PM

The majority of Rovers fans on here have made a similar comment, PC, RH, Sbgawa to name a few.

If you are happy with that progress more power to you. I'm sure Bradley will be delighted to know he has plenty of breathing room. Maybe make him another wallpaper banner to let him know?

Just for balence - anything less than 2nd place by no more than 3/4 points and Bradley should be shown the door - Bradley has plenty of doubters amongst the fan base- Cork, Waterford , Derry , Bohs and Duns up next , that will give a good indication as to where we�re at

sbgawa

31/03/2019, 11:09 PM

Did PC write that for you? Are you the same person? If you believe that, you're off the deep end.
We will see in the fullness of time when accounts come out but I'd expect to be close to the truth.

desaintsno.12

01/04/2019, 5:12 AM

Pats will get better but need some rapid improvement.

Unless that rapid improvement is Kenny slinging his hook, we won't be getting any better.

Ezeikial

01/04/2019, 6:48 AM

We will see in the fullness of time when accounts come out but I'd expect to be close to the truth.

Even your rough estimates of the respective budgets would be great.

sbgawa

01/04/2019, 7:06 AM

The last accounts had 1.2 for rovers including admin and academy staff, I doubt that has changed.
DFC on same basis I'd say 2.2 to 2..5

PartySaint

01/04/2019, 8:24 AM

. Pats players got ratty and resorted to hoofing the ball. .

No no, we didn't resort to hoofing, that's just what we do ALL the time. Awful stuff.

Our next 2 league games are Dundalk and Cork which will be 5 defeats in a row and 7 without a win. Season can still be saved by getting rid of Kenny now. The crowds have been great this season and it looks like that will be ruined by horrendously boring displays on the pitch.

We also have Dundalk in the LC tonight, oh the joys.

sbgawa

01/04/2019, 8:43 AM

Dalymountrower

01/04/2019, 9:06 AM

Mid last year Rovers fans were clamoring to sack Bradser and bring in Kenny.
Harry Kenny has'nt turned into a terrible manager.
Its 7 matches into a new season and with basically an entirely new team.
Cool the jets
Pats were fairly good for the first 20 minutes , Rhys Mc Cabe was class, as usual. They just seemed to fall apart , for no reason other than they produced very few chances from the early possession. As Outspoken mentioned above, their discipline just seemed to dissolve, three deliberate handballs included, and lots of backchat. Forrester stomped petulantly around the field but it was Mc Cabe who was hauled off first. HK has to take responsibility for that.
Pats will ultimately get it together though, and will be safely mid table.

PartySaint

01/04/2019, 9:24 AM

Harry Kenny has'nt turned into a terrible manager.

Well the question is, was he a good manager in the first place?

sbgawa

01/04/2019, 10:36 AM

Well the question is, was he a good manager in the first place?

Jeez you really have the knives out for Harry, he's not just bad now......... he never was any good :D
I still think of him playing for Rovers in the eighties so he has a good bit of goodwill to burn through with me.

oriel

01/04/2019, 10:45 AM

marinobohs

01/04/2019, 11:38 AM

Unless that rapid improvement is Kenny slinging his hook, we won't be getting any better.

Think that would be a bit premature, new manager and new set of players (by and large) so not that big a surprise it is taking them time to settle. The attitude of some players on Friday did leave a lot to be desired - Forrester had his best game ever for Bohs :D and the red card was amateur stuff.
pats will get better, too any good players not to, but the (overly ?) high expectations of some of their supporters is a way off

Ezeikial

01/04/2019, 11:47 AM

i was surprised hoe badly Pats are doing, they looked solid enough after beating Cork 1-0 on the opening night.

Cork themselves werent great last friday, they battled well in MF but only one shot which was off target, expected a lot more from them, also read over the weekend, including the Pres Cup, thats 5 wins a row by Dundalk over Cork.

The natural order seems to have restored with 5 wins on the spin - including 2 of them at Turners Cross - although the Sean Maguire inspired form of 2017 appears to be long gone.

Even at this early stage of the season, it is obvious that Cork's next league match - at home to Shamrock Rovers - is of enormous significance to them and may give a pointer as to how their season is likely to pan out. A win catapults them back to within 9 points of Shamrock with two games in hand, while a defeat pushes the gap out to 15 points and would leave them marooned in the lower half of the table.

Cork will remain difficult to beat, but it is hard to see them having enough creativity or cutting edge to win many big games.

Shearer

01/04/2019, 12:28 PM

mcgonigle

01/04/2019, 1:08 PM

Just for balence - anything less than 2nd place by no more than 3/4 points and Bradley should be shown the door - Bradley has plenty of doubters amongst the fan base- Cork, Waterford , Derry , Bohs and Duns up next , that will give a good indication as to where we�re at

Thanks for answering the original question. Yes it's a big month for everyone. Rovers definitely in the title race, for the leagues sake lets hope it stays that way. Although the bickering will be unbearable towards the end! So we can all agree that everyone is happy for Rovers to finish a close second to Dundalk? ;)

PartySaint

01/04/2019, 1:47 PM

Pat's last five games:
Two points acquired,
Two goals scored,
Points dropped to the two promoted (and soon to be relegated) sides,
Poor performances against Rovers, Waterford and Bohs.

I'd say their anger is justified.

With about 3 shots from open play.

For the money we have spent it is nowhere near good enough.

Ezeikial

01/04/2019, 2:44 PM

The last accounts had 1.2 for rovers including admin and academy staff, I doubt that has changed.
DFC on same basis I'd say 2.2 to 2..5

The last accounts (2017) had Dundalk at €1.8m, Rovers at €1.2m and Cork at €1.1m according to this

https://leagueofirelandfinance.blogspot.com/2018/12/2017-premier-division-summary.html

sbgawa

01/04/2019, 2:54 PM

Thanks for answering the original question. Yes it's a big month for everyone. Rovers definitely in the title race, for the leagues sake lets hope it stays that way. Although the bickering will be unbearable towards the end! So we can all agree that everyone is happy for Rovers to finish a close second to Dundalk? ;)

My own definition of minimum level of success for the year is to finish a competitive second.
Given respective budgets (whatever about the size of the gap) we couldn't give out to much if we finished second.
The only leeway i'd give on that would be if we had a run of injuries as the squad depth isn't there to absorb it the way Dundalk were able to recently.
On the other hand i would start to demand more if we bring in more players in July to bolster a title shot if one still exists at that stage

sbgawa

01/04/2019, 2:59 PM

The last accounts (2017) had Dundalk at €1.8m, Rovers at €1.2m and Cork at €1.1m according to this

https://leagueofirelandfinance.blogspot.com/2018/12/2017-premier-division-summary.html

Rovers hasn't changed much i'd say, smaller squad now.
DFC have signed and retained some expensive players, McEleney, Hoban , Duffy , Gannon , your new CEO etc i doubt i'm far off at 2.2 -2.4m , but fair fecks to you boys you won the money so off you go and spend it.
I'd be dissapointed if our board did'nt spend money if we had it to spend
But that doesnt mean we cant win the league, as i keep saying best 11 V best 11 we are ok or not far off. Luck with injuries and a bounce of a ball.
This Friday will be very interesting and is a big match for Cork who i expect to be big time up for it.

seand

01/04/2019, 3:25 PM

I'd say best 11 v best 11 would be around 10-1 to Dundalk on head-to-head but I'm a wee bit biased ;-)

PartySaint

01/04/2019, 4:08 PM

I'd say best 11 v best 11 would be around 10-1 to Dundalk on head-to-head but I'm a wee bit biased ;-)

Mannus
Grace
Clarke
Byrne

From Rovers the rest would be Dundalk

desaintsno.12

01/04/2019, 4:46 PM

Pats were fairly good for the first 20 minutes , Rhys Mc Cabe was class, as usual. They just seemed to fall apart , for no reason other than they produced very few chances from the early possession. As Outspoken mentioned above, their discipline just seemed to dissolve, three deliberate handballs included, and lots of backchat. Forrester stomped petulantly around the field but it was Mc Cabe who was hauled off first. HK has to take responsibility for that.
Pats will ultimately get it together though, and will be safely mid table.

FTR Rhys has been p1ss and so ineffective

desaintsno.12

01/04/2019, 4:48 PM

it isnt premature anymore. I said it a few weeks ago.... no sing of improvement. Kenny appears to be a totally incapable and out of his depth.

RathfarnhamHoop

01/04/2019, 5:08 PM

The majority of Rovers fans on here have made a similar comment, PC, RH, Sbgawa to name a few.

I've said no such thing

Finn moved for money, nothing else.

I'm sure being in his home city, getting a job that'll improve his cv after football, getting to captain the biggest club in the country had nothing to do with it, yeah purely for money.

sbgawa

01/04/2019, 5:51 PM

Mannus
Grace
Clarke
Byrne

From Rovers the rest would be Dundalk

I'd add Finn and mceneff

Kingswood Rover

01/04/2019, 9:23 PM

Within 10 and we are friends, joking aside i think Friday away in Cork will see how far we have come we will be kicked up and down dale so lets see if we can keep 11 on the pitch, keep our passing going and convert some of the chances we will i hope create.

Dalymountrower

01/04/2019, 9:31 PM

Cup specialists beaten on Pennos by Bray.A Richie Purdy scored for Bray, presumably related?

marinobohs

01/04/2019, 9:35 PM

Cup specialists beaten on Pennos by Bray.A Richie Purdy scored for Bray, presumably related?
FT Bohs 2 Cabo 1.

Ezeikial

01/04/2019, 10:33 PM

Cup specialists beaten on Pennos by Bray.A Richie Purdy scored for Bray, presumably related?

Did Aaron Greene find his scoring touch, as predicted by his manager?

http://www.extratime.ie/articles/22603/hoops-boss-bradley-backs-aaron-greene-to-find-his-scoring-touch/

dundalkfc10

01/04/2019, 10:47 PM

Rovers showed the penos on Periscope, cut it off after they missed the 2nd penalty and then deleted the video

Bitter?

Charlie Darwin

01/04/2019, 11:41 PM

Cup specialists beaten on Pennos by Bray.A Richie Purdy scored for Bray, presumably related?
He's related to former Shamrock Rovers player Richie Purdy by virtue of being him. His dad Richie also played for us.

Charlie Darwin

01/04/2019, 11:44 PM

Thought this evening was a poor enough victory but credit to Bray for their victory. Thought it could have gone either way within 120 minutes so can't begrudge them the win on penos.

EatYerGreens

01/04/2019, 11:53 PM

Cup specialists beaten on Pennos by Bray.A Richie Purdy scored for Bray, presumably related?

Rovers haven't been cup specialists since the 1980s.

I don't think they've ever been League Cup specialists either !

littlebray

01/04/2019, 11:58 PM

Derry City 11 titles. Dundalk 6, Pats 4, Bohs, Athlone, Cork and Limerick 3 each - then Rovers on 2 (with four others).

sbgawa

02/04/2019, 4:21 AM

Did Aaron Greene find his scoring touch, as predicted by his manager?

http://www.extratime.ie/articles/22603/hoops-boss-bradley-backs-aaron-greene-to-find-his-scoring-touch/

Your fascination with bradser shows no sign of abating. Small yawn

Ezeikial

02/04/2019, 6:56 AM

Your fascination with bradser shows no sign of abating. Small yawn

I am doing a thesis on motivational techniques in sports leadership

oriel

02/04/2019, 2:28 PM

He's related to former Shamrock Rovers player Richie Purdy by virtue of being him. His dad Richie also played for us.

Richie Purdy was a league title winner with Dundalk in 1994/95, very good right full, he was exellent in that very surprising league championship title wining season (the next one was a very long 19 years later in 2014).

RathfarnhamHoop

02/04/2019, 2:36 PM

Richie Purdy was a league title winner with Dundalk in 1994/95, very good right full, he was exellent in that very surprising league championship title wining season (the next one was a very long 19 years later in 2014).

He brother, Daniel I think his name is, also used to play for Rovers played for Athlone a few seasons ago not sure where he is now

Martinho II

02/04/2019, 4:19 PM

He's related to former Shamrock Rovers player Richie Purdy by virtue of being him. His dad Richie also played for us.

is daniel purdy that used to play for us a brother?

Martinho II

02/04/2019, 4:21 PM

He brother, Daniel I think his name is, also used to play for Rovers played for Athlone a few seasons ago not sure where he is now

he played for us also around 2013, yeah havent heard of him in a while!

marinobohs

03/04/2019, 11:04 AM

Rovers showed the penos on Periscope, cut it off after they missed the 2nd penalty and then deleted the video

Bitter?

Maybe the person filming didn�t have a list of the names and, well you know, it is a distance away, and dark.....🤔

oriel

03/04/2019, 9:09 PM

Mannus
Grace
Clarke
Byrne

From Rovers the rest would be Dundalk

Mannus is decent, but with his age, I'm not sure he is that much better than Rogers, Grace yes, excellent player, very strong I'd have him, no way Clarke is better than Massey, as for Byrne, good start to the season, and his first in LOI, lets see how he does over the full season.

I'd have Finn back in a heartbeat, but only if he re-joined next season (unlikely) and from any other club the only one I'd be interested to improve Dundalk would be Morrissey from Cork (even more unlikely to ever join).

I did think Hery was an option previously, and he is still a good player, but he wasn't great in the 4-0 defeat last month.

sbgawa

03/04/2019, 10:02 PM

Manus is younger than Rodgers and is a far better keeper.
Clarke is ahead of Massey and I don't think will be still at rovers at years end but will be over the water.
Not sure Morrissey improves you significantly.
Shows the depth of the squad you have that there are only a few players you would take with the pick of the league.
Agree with you on hery , I would have had him last year but he has not kicked on and is a bit inconsistent for top team

RathfarnhamHoop

03/04/2019, 10:28 PM

Mannus is decent, but with his age, I'm not sure he is that much better than Rogers, Grace yes, excellent player, very strong I'd have him, no way Clarke is better than Massey,
Mannus is 36 and Rogers is 37. Mannus is a far far better keeper. Massey and Clarke isn't even close, Clarke is miles ahead of Massey. Even the most one eyed of Dundalk fans would say that.

as for Byrne, good start to the season, and his first in LOI, lets see how he does over the full season.
He's top quality, first season or not, you could make similar arguments about Dundalks midfielders being injured and lets see how they are when they come back.

oriel

04/04/2019, 9:05 AM

I stand corrected on the age Rogers v Mannus, I got that wrong.

Clarke is obviously a lot younger than Massey, and only one can obviously go to a higher level, I wouldnt swap Massey still, 4 league titles and much better experience, maybe in a few years time !!!!

bohsmug

04/04/2019, 10:02 AM

Seems strange to butt in on a Rovers v Dundalk conversation but I'd definitely have Mannus over Rodgers.

Mr A

04/04/2019, 10:46 AM

Seems strange to butt in on a Rovers v Dundalk conversation but I'd definitely have Mannus over Rodgers.

Yes, but which is the better goalkeeper?

bohsmug

04/04/2019, 11:23 AM

yes, but which is the better goalkeeper?

Very good :D

marinobohs

04/04/2019, 1:59 PM

Seems strange to butt in on a Rovers v Dundalk conversation but I'd definitely have Mannus over Rodgers.

Never been convinced by either keeper. Rodgers on his day a better keeper IMHO but Mannus more consistent (Rodgers much more prone to **** ups). This season is not the greatest crop of keepers we have seen.