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drummerboy
14/04/2005, 1:32 PM
in 1978

The pope died.
Wales won the Grand Slam.
Liverpool lost in the league cup final.
Liverpool won the European Cup.
And Ipswich won the FA Youth Cup.



In 1981.......


Prince Charles married
Ken Married Deirdre
Liverpool Won European Cup


In 2005 ....

Prince Charles married
Ken Married Deirdre
Liverpool Won ????????

Troy.McClure
14/04/2005, 1:44 PM
Liverpool Won ???????? fcuk all! :p

stojkovic
14/04/2005, 1:53 PM
in 1978

The pope died.
Wales won the Grand Slam.
Liverpool lost in the league cup final.
Liverpool won the European Cup.
And Ipswich won the FA Youth Cup.

And the team they lost to in the League Cup Final also won the League !!

noby
14/04/2005, 2:05 PM
In 1985 Everton qualified for the European Cup, but were prevented from entering by Liverpool

In 2005, what if Everton finish fourth, and Liverpool win the CL??

Dotsy
14/04/2005, 2:27 PM
The winner of the CL gets automatic qualification the next year so I assume this won't change the number of places for English teams. It will still be 4 (first two automatic and 3rd/4th place go through one qualifying round).

I assume it also means that if LIverpool or Chelsea win the CL and also come in the top four in the PM then the 5th place team in the PM will get the fourth ENglish CL place instead of Liverpool or Chelsea..

Schumi
14/04/2005, 2:33 PM
A country can't have more than 4 teams in the CL. The winners don't automatically qualify; it's up to the their association, the (English) FA in this case, whether they want to put them forward. If they do, the fourth team in the league are entered in the UEFA Cup instead.

noby
14/04/2005, 2:42 PM
The winner of the CL gets automatic qualification the next year so I assume this won't change the number of places for English teams. It will still be 4 (first two automatic and 3rd/4th place go through one qualifying round).

I assume it also means that if LIverpool or Chelsea win the CL and also come in the top four in the PM then the 5th place team in the PM will get the fourth ENglish CL place instead of Liverpool or Chelsea..



No. The FA have been told they have four places in next years CL, no matter who wins. It is up to the FA to decide, and they have indicated giving automatic qualification to the winners (if it's an English club)

cullenswood
14/04/2005, 2:45 PM
No. The FA have been told they have four places in next years CL, no matter who wins. It is up to the FA to decide, and they have indicated giving automatic qualification to the winners (if it's an English club)

So if Liverpool win, and finish 5th, then Everton would not qualify even after finishing 4th. That would be some kick in the teeth for the team

Troy.McClure
14/04/2005, 3:21 PM
IF[SIZE=7] Liverpool win, does that mean that the 2nd placed team in the PL must go through qualifying rounds like they were the 3rd placed team?

Dotsy
14/04/2005, 3:51 PM
No. The FA have been told they have four places in next years CL, no matter who wins. It is up to the FA to decide, and they have indicated giving automatic qualification to the winners (if it's an English club)

Cheers for that.

Roo69
14/04/2005, 3:58 PM
in 1978

The pope died.
Wales won the Grand Slam.
Liverpool lost in the league cup final.
Liverpool won the European Cup.
And Ipswich won the FA Youth Cup.



In 1981.......


Prince Charles married
Ken Married Deirdre
Liverpool Won European Cup


In 2005 ....

Prince Charles married
Ken Married Deirdre
Liverpool Won ????????

It also rained in 78 and 81, guess what..........05 as well ! It must be true

anto1208
14/04/2005, 4:17 PM
So if Liverpool win, and finish 5th, then Everton would not qualify even after finishing 4th. That would be some kick in the teeth for the team

spot on there, not a hope of everton being given the cl place the fa hate them !!.

by right s it should go to everton they deserve it since they have been in 4th place since september . hope fully chelsea will see of the red ****e

ColinR
14/04/2005, 4:27 PM
in 1978

The pope died.
Wales won the Grand Slam.
Liverpool lost in the league cup final.
Liverpool won the European Cup.
And Ipswich won the FA Youth Cup.



In 1981.......


Prince Charles married
Ken Married Deirdre
Liverpool Won European Cup


In 2005 ....

Prince Charles married
Ken Married Deirdre
Liverpool Won ????????

1978 - liverpool were the best team in europe
1981 - liverpool were the best team in europe
2005 - er...sorry, still cannot see it happen

pineapple stu
14/04/2005, 6:31 PM
If Liverpool win, does that mean that the 2nd placed team in the PL must go through qualifying rounds like they were the 3rd placed team?
I think the holders are automatically given top seed status the next season, in which case, it would happen as you have it.