2019 Televised Fixtures

[nr637]

Anyone know when Eir Sport begin their live Airtricity League coverage and what the first game will be!

[Martinho II]

Anyone know when Eir Sport begin their live Airtricity League coverage and what the first game will be!

all we know nr is that it will be the end of march before there will be a live game on eir!

[dundalkfc10]

Not one club has any goals up after been giving permission to do it on a Friday

[colonelwest]

Not one club has any goals up after been giving permission to do it on a Friday

I'm not sure the clubs actually have direct access to the new streaming feeds (the non potato quality trackchamp live ones that were used first game of the season) that went into the grounds preseason, I think they route straight to the provider and out to RTE then. Clubs are reliant then on RTE getting the footage in, editing it and getting it back out to them or up via RTE's social media then for them to share out themselves.

I know a few clubs trialled software that basically lets them slice clips of action as it happens to post online then via the same platform but I think that was put by the wayside with this new thing that's going on, the quality of the software and the footage etc wasn't the may west from what I saw either.

[dundalkfc10]

Dundalk record every game, good quality. Use to do own highlights regularly online.
With all the staff we have now at the club, surely they can get the goals up online straight after a game

[Junior Soprano]

Dundalk record every game, good quality. Use to do own highlights regularly online.
With all the staff we have now at the club, surely they can get the goals up online straight after a game


Who are all the staff outside of the General Manager and office manager?

[RathfarnhamHoop]

All teams record every game themselves to a good standard video quality with at least one camera. At every Rovers home game so far there's been 3/4 cameras minimum on the TV gantry and then the trackchamp camera is in the main stand so I don't think the problem is necessarily getting the footage especially as the home team has to have the footage uploaded to the analysis website by the end of matchnight.

Don't know about other clubs but Rovers are starting putting out their own highlights package of games so I guess they're thinking having that done well and waiting a day is worth more than just uploading clips ASAP. I guess time will tell if that thinking is accurate.

[colonelwest]

Dundalk record every game, good quality. Use to do own highlights regularly online.
With all the staff we have now at the club, surely they can get the goals up online straight after a game


Harry is the club videographer along with being the general handyman around OP for anything and everything and the DFC tv lads are volunteers still as far as I'm aware. There's a world of difference between the likes of Harry & the DFC tv lads doing their bits for review in the days after games and the splicing, editing, compiling and exporting of footage for highlights straight away post match or even as they happen, that takes ages unless you've either out of the box software that you still have to go through the 90 mins to put together like the option I mentioned above. Plus as RathfarnhamHoop said they all get it off the group portal all clubs have access too, Collie O'Neill spoke about it on LOI weekly a few weeks ago too


Not saying they all don't do a great job and same for the lads at all clubs across the league but there's a world of difference between the above and the facilities and full time staff broadcasters have to get things out there ASAP, now they have the want to do it this season of course.



All teams record every game themselves to a good standard video quality with at least one camera. At every Rovers home game so far there's been 3/4 cameras minimum on the TV gantry and then the trackchamp camera is in the main stand so I don't think the problem is necessarily getting the footage especially as the home team has to have the footage uploaded to the analysis website by the end of matchnight.


Don't know about other clubs but Rovers are starting putting out their own highlights package of games so I guess they're thinking having that done well and waiting a day is worth more than just uploading clips ASAP. I guess time will tell if that thinking is accurate.


Aye yeah they've to have the full games up by midnight but the most in that is waiting around for the export and then upload as there's nothing done to the raw footage pretty much for that.


The new thing gone in is a trial pretty much for this season with an option to extend depending on what the story is with the league next season as that's all up in the air anyway with the participation agreement, Mother Theresa Quinn and the TV rights up for discussion too then. Baby steps this season with it all for the FAI, clubs and the broadcasters etc but all going to plan, next season there should be some relatively big news on the tv front.

[Junior Soprano]

Finally someone with a bit of sense, it's difficult for most clubs even Dundalk who have only a handful of staff to do this.

[outspoken]

I was saying this to someone during the week that clubs need to get extra volunteers if they want to get clips up as they happen. Obviously you need a camera man recording and then you need someone next to him with a laptop able to chop clips and post them as needed. Not to mention the cost of equipment and software. It's not as easy as people may think. Again, this is exactly why we need a marketing budget for all clubs

[Eminence Grise]

There's OK shareware video editing software available - wouldn't have the same functionality as licensed software, but it's serviceable. It's the skills to use it that are sometimes harder to get for free.

[joey B]

Eir Sport showing Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians and Dundalk v Shamrock Rovers in April...........

[Asterix]

Eir Sport showing Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians and Dundalk v Shamrock Rovers in April...........

4 of Rovers games in April on TV so

[nr637]

Confirmed live games on Friday Night Soccer are Dundalk v Cork City on 29th March, Cork City v Shamrock Rovers on 5th April and Derry City v Shamrock Rovers on 19th April.

Eir Sport live game on Tuesday, April 23rd Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians, kick-off 8pm with coverage beginning on Eir Sport 1 at 7.30pm. Three days later on Friday, April 26th Dundalk v Shamrock Rovers at Oriel Park, kick-off at 8pm with coverage on Eir Sport 1 at 7.30pm .

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Anyone know the TV audience for the game Tuesday? That'd be interesting to know

[EatYerGreens]

Anyone know the TV audience for the game Tuesday? That'd be interesting to know

Because Eir is a subscription channel, I'm not even sure it would be captured/registered via the usual data. It's user numbers might be too low.

[WeAreRovers]

Eir Sport 1 is rated by Tam Ireland/Nielsen and the game on Tuesday averaged around 7,200 (20.00 to 22.00). Derry v Rovers the previous Friday on RTÉ2 had an average of 70,000.

[ToberonaTornado]

Eir Sport 1 is rated by Tam Ireland/Nielsen and the game on Tuesday averaged around 7,200 (20.00 to 22.00). Derry v Rovers the previous Friday on RTÉ2 had an average of 70,000.

Are Tam Ireland/Nielsen including all the dodgy streams in those figures?😉

[Nesta99]

I'd include RTE Player as a dodgy stream but maybe not in the way you mean!!

[EatYerGreens]

Eir Sport 1 is rated by Tam Ireland/Nielsen and the game on Tuesday averaged around 7,200 (20.00 to 22.00). Derry v Rovers the previous Friday on RTÉ2 had an average of 70,000.

So that settles what the biggest fixture in Irish football is then :p

[EatYerGreens]

Eir Sport 1 is rated by Tam Ireland/Nielsen and the game on Tuesday averaged around 7,200 (20.00 to 22.00). Derry v Rovers the previous Friday on RTÉ2 had an average of 70,000.

Do you have a link to their page ? And how did the Derry-Rovers game compare to competition on the telly ?

[CorribsideSteve]

I'd include RTE Player as a dodgy stream but maybe not in the way you mean!!

It's absolutely brutal. Was like galway traffic at 4 on a Friday, as it is for every LOI game they show.

[Nesta99]

Its seriously time that clubs look to stream their own games live as PPV to cover cost. Traffic that causes RTE to crash/buffer would indicate interest. It doesnt have to be massive better than skor which a lot of fans do accept to see a game. It could still fall fould of whatever agreements there are but the restrictions are lessening and if a game isnt being televised it surely cant be that hard in this day and age. Certainly not in larger, newer, urban grounds!?

[nigel-harps1954]

70,000 average is quite a reasonable for a small league.

The figure for eir obviously doesn't include online streams or illegal iptv streaming services, but just shows the difference a free to air option gives you.

Now, imagine how much bigger than 70000 figure could be if matches were scheduled at a time when most of the target audience weren't already at a game?

Firm believer that live games on RTE should be a 7pm Saturday kickoff.

[WeAreRovers]

Do you have a link to their page ? And how did the Derry-Rovers game compare to competition on the telly ?

Tam Ireland/Nielsen figures are for subscriber use only (broadcasters, ad agencies, media buyers etc), shouldn't really post them here if I'm honest.

Friday's Derry v Rovers game was up against Eastenders and Coronation Street so no point comparing apples and oranges with vastly different audiences. Safe to say it performed well in its slot.

[pineapple stu]

7200 viewers sounds tiny - almost hardly worth their while commercially I'd have thought?

Is that really a decent figure?

[WeAreRovers]

7200 viewers sounds tiny - almost hardly worth their while commercially I'd have thought?

Is that really a decent figure?

Their model is subscription not viewers-per-game. They don't care about numbers in the way free-to-air ad-based broadcasters do. Obviously they'd like as many viewers as possible but they don't live or die by that metric.

[Bohs11]

Their model is subscription not viewers-per-game. They don't care about numbers in the way free-to-air ad-based broadcasters do. Obviously they'd like as many viewers as possible but they don't live or die by that metric.

Not sure if you've access to the historical figures, but how do the European games do in terms of viewer numbers? Always thought the likes of those would do better than a Friday night fixture when most people are at the games, yet they never show the early rounds of them.

[sbgawa]

Their model is subscription not viewers-per-game. They don't care about numbers in the way free-to-air ad-based broadcasters do. Obviously they'd like as many viewers as possible but they don't live or die by that metric.


I was at the game so not watching on TV.
Was it not free on Eir , they have done this in the past

[Martinho II]

I was at the game so not watching on TV.
Was it not free on Eir , they have done this in the past

no it wasnt

[Yossarian]

Anyone know what the next live game is?

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Anyone know what the next live game is?

Don't believe it has been announced yet

[colonelwest]

Eir Sport 1 is rated by Tam Ireland/Nielsen and the game on Tuesday averaged around 7,200 (20.00 to 22.00). Derry v Rovers the pr evious Friday on RTÉ2 had an average of 70,000.


70,000 average is quite a reasonable for a small league.

The figure for eir obviously doesn't include online streams or illegal iptv streaming services, but just shows the difference a free to air option gives you.

Now, imagine how much bigger than 70000 figure could be if matches were scheduled at a time when most of the target audience weren't already at a game?

Firm believer that live games on RTE should be a 7pm Saturday kickoff.

70k was the number mentioned by the head of RTE Sport Declan McBennett when he was on the GLITW pod a few weeks back as the base number for making a case for showing the live games given the costs involved. He was particularly defensive and abrasive with the lads when he was on as well which I thought was quite odd as Conan and Con were softballing him questions and generally amiable with him.

The new Friday night format is excellent but the thing is most of your target audience are all out at games which takes away from the viewing figures. For the Derry/ Rovers game mentioned above with 70k viewers, I was in Dalyer and the bars were rammed after the game with everyone watching the hours highlights after the game and would probably be the same around all the grounds, none of us/ those people would count towards the viewership numbers.

Two things I'd like to see is:

1.) Long term, a game a week on telly in the same time slot. Repetition and familiarity are how you grow an audience/ brand or whatever. Having games on like waiting for a Dublin Bus is ridiculous, 5 in a short space of time and then none for ages then.

2.) Slightly contradicting the above but I'm 100% with Nigel on the live games being a 7pm Saturday kick off. Over the summer especially for me, when other football leagues are on their break. It would avoid the Championship afternoon games and also means people at Friday night games would add to the viewership. You're after people/ families doing their thing during the day and being home for the evening and catching people before they go out then too. Would also probably help attendances at those games too, especially over the summer months in the hopefully decent weather.

[kksaints]

70k was the number mentioned by the head of RTE Sport Declan McBennett when he was on the GLITW pod a few weeks back as the base number for making a case for showing the live games given the costs involved. He was particularly defensive and abrasive with the lads when he was on as well which I thought was quite odd as Conan and Con were softballing him questions and generally amiable with him.

The new Friday night format is excellent but the thing is most of your target audience are all out at games which takes away from the viewing figures. For the Derry/ Rovers game mentioned above with 70k viewers, I was in Dalyer and the bars were rammed after the game with everyone watching the hours highlights after the game and would probably be the same around all the grounds, none of us/ those people would count towards the viewership numbers.

Two things I'd like to see is:

1.) Long term, a game a week on telly in the same time slot. Repetition and familiarity are how you grow an audience/ brand or whatever. Having games on like waiting for a Dublin Bus is ridiculous, 5 in a short space of time and then none for ages then.

2.) Slightly contradicting the above but I'm 100% with Nigel on the live games being a 7pm Saturday kick off. Over the summer especially for me, when other football leagues are on their break. It would avoid the Championship afternoon games and also means people at Friday night games would add to the viewership. You're after people/ families doing their thing during the day and being home for the evening and catching people before they go out then too. Would also probably help attendances at those games too, especially over the summer months in the hopefully decent weather.

Con wasn't on that particular episode of GLITW which I wonder was a coincidence or was it planned to avoid an ex-RTE employee grilling the RTE head of sport who came across as quite unpleasant and aggressive.His point on having to reduce coverage on Soccer Republic to increase the coverage on the live matches was a load of ****e considering they increased the time that GAA League Sunday had for terrible analysis yet they kept the coverage of the GAA league matches they had exactly the same as the Summer GAA coverage.

On point 2 while I personally like the idea of 7pm Saturday night for TV matches, it clashes with too many GAA matches on TV in the Summer. I presume RTE/Eir would want to avoid this as much as possible.

[colonelwest]

Con wasn't on that particular episode of GLITW which I wonder was a coincidence or was it planned to avoid an ex-RTE employee grilling the RTE head of sport who came across as quite unpleasant and aggressive.His point on having to reduce coverage on Soccer Republic to increase the coverage on the live matches was a load of ****e considering they increased the time that GAA League Sunday had for terrible analysis yet they kept the coverage of the GAA league matches they had exactly the same as the Summer GAA coverage.

On point 2 while I personally like the idea of 7pm Saturday night for TV matches, it clashes with too many GAA matches on TV in the Summer. I presume RTE/Eir would want to avoid this as much as possible.

Ah is right, it was Gareth subbing in, Con was away that week! To be fair I'd say that was just the week he was booked in as a guest, he did come across very strangely aggressive, despite making fair points RE: viewer numbers. But then again, they are funded by the licence fee and have a public responsibility as well, which they only like to pull that card when it suits them in Montrose.

Trying to dig out the figures for the GAA league matches and comparable stuff like the womens/ u20s rugby but I'd imagine the GAA league figures would be higher than ours. Catch 22 is trying to grow the audience and find a decent slot that's not competing with the GAA with the Saturday/ Sunday games live on TV. Outside of WC and Euros years we should be looking at a live game on every Saturday or Sunday early evening ideally from end of May til mid August for me.

Did find the below off TAM for March, no numbers I can find yet though

RTE Sport top 10 for March

https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2789&stc=1

Eir Sports top 5 March:

https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2790&stc=1

So the 21s game was 5th highest on Eir behind Allianz League, Pro14 & feckin' Schools Rugby. Be interesting to see next months rankings with the few live LOI games on this month.

[Asterix]

24/05 - Bohemians v Sligo Rovers, 7.45pm, RTE
31/05 - Waterford v Shamrock Rovers, 7.45pm, RTE
09/06 - Cork City v Waterford, 7pm, eirSport
14/06 - Bohemians v Shamrock Rovers, 8pm, eirSport
28/06 - Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk, 8pm, eirSport

[Straightstory]

Having a live game on TV while a full fixture list is happening at the same time is plainly daft. Only in Ireland...

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Was 30k the cost given by RTE for showing a game on TV? Just realised watching yesterdays game that that price is probably including the rental of the crane they get in for all games outside Tallaght to show behind the goal angles. Surely with a bit of joined up thinking between the FAI and RTE, asking a lot I know, paying a bit of money in advance for clubs to build a TV gantry behind a goal would have by now saved RTE money? Because I can't imagine a crane is cheap to rent.

[Real ale Madrid]

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/sse-airtricity-league-tv-pilot-launched/id-2751


A pilot project with Cork City and Dundalk will enable fans outside Ireland to watch the clubs’ upcoming home fixtures in the SSE Airtricity League via a new streaming platform.The introduction of a new streaming platform is a joint venture between the FAI, ChyronHego and the clubs and will provide fans from around the world the opportunity to watch SSE Airtricity League fixtures live online via a HD stream with commentary and live match graphics.Individual matches are available for just €3.99 or four of either club’s matches can be purchased for €9.99.It is intended that if the pilot project is successful, the streaming platform will be rolled out to all of the clubs in the SSE Airtricity League Premier Division.The streaming service is not available in the Republic of Ireland.

This is good.

[sidewayspasser]

A step in the right direction at least. Let's hope it gets sufficient numbers of (paying) viewers to be considered successful enough for a league-wide roll out.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Crusaders streaming their friendly against Motherwell tonight on Facebook. Viewer numbers hovering 550-600. On the one hand it's free but on the other its a meaningless friendly though you'll probably have a fair few of Motherwell fans watching but if this was that new streaming service that's roughly 2 grand. You'd want the streaming service to have numbers well above that to be a viable service for a league wide roll out, to cover infrastructure costs and such.

[ToberonaTornado]

Grand news :D

RTÉ Sport will televise Dundalk's first round first leg tie with Riga FC on Wednesday 10 July from Oriel Park.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0701/1059562-dundalks-home-leg-in-champions-league-live-on-rte/

[ger121]

Grand news :D

RTÉ Sport will televise Dundalk's first round first leg tie with Riga FC on Wednesday 10 July from Oriel Park.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0701/1059562-dundalks-home-leg-in-champions-league-live-on-rte/

Ah great news! Now all those who where outraged at the €30 price tag for a ticket can watch it for free, like they were probably going to anyway:sarcastic:

[oriel]

Good news also for DFC fans on holidays, most bars in the popular resorts will be able to get RTE for the game.

Dermot Keely will be beside himself with excitement in his spot !

[Martinho II]

Grand news :D

RTÉ Sport will televise Dundalk's first round first leg tie with Riga FC on Wednesday 10 July from Oriel Park.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0701/1059562-dundalks-home-leg-in-champions-league-live-on-rte/

dont know if it was mentioned earlier in this thread already but eir sports are showing the second leg tie live.

[ger121]

EIR actually showing 4 European games.

Eir Sport announce live TV coverage for four European games involving Irish clubs https://the42.ie/4708234

[Martinho II]

EIR actually showing 4 European games.

Eir Sport announce live TV coverage for four European games involving Irish clubs https://the42.ie/4708234

thats great news as it wasnt looking good for eir sports after losing bt sport to sky from next month from their package.

[sidewayspasser]

I'd say it's still not looking good for eir sports. Losing BT sport is a major blow for them.
That said, I of course appreciate them showing the matches.

[Martinho II]

I'd say it's still not looking good for eir sports. Losing BT sport is a major blow for them.
That said, I of course appreciate them showing the matches.

they will probably do what they do in previous years just commentary and no punditry.

[ToberonaTornado]

Dundalk's game live on eir next weds.

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