Leinster Senior Cup 2018/19

[seand]

Fair play to Athlone, I know it's 'only' the LSC but it's a cracking result to start the season.

[sbgawa]

The guy who scored for Athlone (Dean Williams) is on loan from Rovers, he scored goals for fun for the 19's last year and is a terrific talent.
Should score plenty for them in the first divison.

[2 Year Contract]

Aside from Forrester’s belter, the other goals for Pats were a great header from 19’s striker Jake Walker and a tap in rebound from fullback Paul Cleary

[Peaky Blinder]

Did Ciaran Kelly get a run for Pats at all?

[outspoken]

Did Ciaran Kelly get a run for Pats at all?

Started

[PartySaint]

Vinnie out :)

Or is it Gill out?

Or Maybe O'Donnell does the LSC games?

[PartySaint]

Played the full 90 minutes, defensively very sound, gave the ball away too much going forward though.

[Ezeikial]

Or is it Gill out?

Or Maybe O'Donnell does the LSC games?

Anything less than a point in Finn Park on Friday and the pressure will intensify.

[EatYerGreens]

Anything less than a point in Finn Park on Friday and the pressure will intensify.

Surely anything les than 3pts ?

Dundalk should not be settling for only a draw against a newly promoted team.

[Ezeikial]

Surely anything les than 3pts ?

Dundalk should not be settling for only a draw against a newly promoted team.

Whoosh

[dundalkfc10]

Surely anything les than 3pts ?

Dundalk should not be settling for only a draw against a newly promoted team.

Haha do you not get sarcasm?

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

It’s a cup final for Dundalk

[sbgawa]

Quite pleased with myself on this one. Paddy power were giving 6 to 1 on Cabo to beat bray today which they duly did 2 to 1.
Any long odds bets in the lsc are good value as no one could have a clue what the second 11s or 19s of either team will do.

[pineapple stu]

Fourth Round
Shelbourne v Bohemians
Cabinteely FC v Bray Wanderers
UCD v Crumlin United
Dundalk v Athlone Town
North End United v Longford Town
St Patricks Athletic v Wexford
Sheriff YC v Drogheda United
Killester Donnycarney FC/Bluebell United v Shamrock Rovers
UCD v Crumlin is on 27th August - six months after the rest of the round.

I know Bohs, Cabo, Pat's and Athlone are through to the quarters. Any results from the other three games?

This year's tournament is an even bigger farce than usual; well done to the LFA on that fine achievement.

[Asterix]

UCD v Crumlin is on 27th August - six months after the rest of the round.

I know Bohs, Cabo, Pat's and Athlone are through to the quarters. Any results from the other three games?

This year's tournament is an even bigger farce than usual; well done to the LFA on that fine achievement.

Rovers are playing killester tomorrow.

[ForzaForth]

Rumours in Wexford that North End and Longford is to be fixed for some date in August. Not sure which year though.

[outspoken]

North end never made contact with LTFC, stupid competition should be scrapped

[Martinho II]

North end never made contact with LTFC, stupid competition should be scrapped

imagine in that scenario we would get a walkover..

[D24Saint]

Killester beat Rovers 1-0.

[sbgawa]

Killester beat Rovers 1-0.

Rovers 19s to be fair.
I would rather we had cancelled the game given Europe involvement and played them with a semi full team later, big game for them and playing the 19s kinda spoils it for them.
When u consider 75% of the league matches are over there would be plenty of oppurtunities

[Nesta99]

I'm pretty sure they will be saying they beat Shamrock Rovers not SRFC U19s and who knows who they might draw in the next round that they can look forward to playing.

[Shearer]

Rovers 19s to be fair.
I would rather we had cancelled the game given Europe involvement and played them with a semi full team later, big game for them and playing the 19s kinda spoils it for them.
When u consider 75% of the league matches are over there would be plenty of oppurtunities
Well said.

[hollocaine]

Confirmed ties:

Sheriff YC v Drogheda, 21st August (7.45)

North End v Longford, 27th August (6.30)

[pineapple stu]

UCD v Crumlin postponed as we're playing Dundalk twice next week instead.

I don't remember this ever being quite so shambolic before?

[marinobohs]

UCD v Crumlin postponed as we're playing Dundalk twice next week instead.

I don't remember this ever being quite so shambolic before?
Its always been shambolic. Think one year the final wasn’t played until the following season. Winter /summer Leagues added another layer of chaos to the mix.
Not sure it has any future, maybe as an U19 competition ?

[pineapple stu]

This year's round of 16 games are unplayed over a year after the preliminary round though.

It has nothing to add tbh, and agree it should be scrapped.

[Martinho II]

Confirmed ties:

Sheriff YC v Drogheda, 21st August (7.45)

North End v Longford, 27th August (6.30)

doubt there will be little interest in our game considering we are playing in Ferrycarrig 3 days later! very late to have a tie for this competition considering the league season is nearly finished. Its a sham!

[Martinho II]

This year's round of 16 games are unplayed over a year after the preliminary round though.

It has nothing to add tbh, and agree it should be scrapped.

didnt know that at all. that blackens the feeling towards this competition!

[pineapple stu]

I'm just going on this thread. Littlebray is the best source of info on the LSC it seems!

Though it's not quite a year; he has the first game as 24th August last year. It's possible a preliminary round draw for 2019/20 has already been made.

[littlebray]

This season has been a fairly spectacular b-up, not just with first games last September and still not into the QFs, but first 4th Round matches last February, and the Round still not finished. At least there are now dates for the remaining matches.
For the record, since its establishment in 1892/3, the competition has been highly variable.
In the 1910s, it was making a 'home' for itself on St Patricks Day, playing the final that day six times (and once more during the Patricks Day weekend: Sunday was a no-no).
But the FAI wanted that date for its blue riband national Cup, and from 1921, the first decade of the new regime saw LSC Finals in April.
Then clearly a decision was made to make it a Stephens Day showpiece (Munster Finals were also aimed at that date for periods).
From 1930/31 until 1976/7, only three Boxing Days failed to feature the LSC Final: 1945/6 (16 Jan), 1966/7 (27 Dec) and 1971/2 (26 Jan).
Occasionally draws made a serious dent in the schedule: in 1957/8 the Final was not replayed until 5 February, and in 1974/5 it was even later, on 20 March.
But from the late 1970s on, it was again highly variable. Dates in early December, in January and even in April featured - though it returned to Stephens Day for a couple of years as the two-division League commenced.
The 1988/9 Final, drawn 1-1 between Bohemians and Bray on St Stephens Day 1988, wasn't replayed until 7 August 1989 - the day after the first round matches for the next season! (Bohs won 1-0.)
Since the 10-year gap, the LSC has failed to command a reliable programme of dates, which argues that the LFA has failed to talk to the FAI.
The worst schedule until this year was when the first games in the First Round were played on 8 & 9 September 2016, and the Final more than a year later, on 4 October 2017 (There was a Preliminary Round match, but I don't have a date for it).
When this year's Final will be played is highly debatable.
Details to date here (http://www.braywanderers.com/showarticle.php?id=754#LSC) (still missing one or two ...)

[seand]

Are the LoI clubs in some way compelled to take part? Is there any reason why Pats or Rovers, say, might not just decline to enter the competition at all?

[marinobohs]

Are the LoI clubs in some way compelled to take part? Is there any reason why Pats or Rovers, say, might not just decline to enter the competition at all?

Surely easier for the LFA and the FAI to get their heads out of their collective asses and make the competition more viable ? maybe convert to an U19 competition ? less matches ? dedicated dates ? Anything to give the competition some identity other than another liability on clubs.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Just play it as a pre season for loi teams Cup. Take the end of January to the league start in February and squeeze as much of it in there as possible. That way the LSL teams have a better chance while also playing actual LOI teams and it has a set date. Maybe do it as group stages in pre season then the teams that top their groups or however the numbers work qualify out for knockouts to be played before June.

[littlebray]

Are the LoI clubs in some way compelled to take part? Is there any reason why Pats or Rovers, say, might not just decline to enter the competition at all?

No, and they proved that in 1924/5 when all the LOI teams withdrew because the LFA wouldn't agree to excuse them from the first two rounds. The LFA backed down and gave them the two rounds the following year.

[pineapple stu]

Does that still hold today though?

Or would there be a difference between "You have to take part" per the rules and "You have to take part" per FAI politics?

[Martinho II]

Confirmed ties:

Sheriff YC v Drogheda, 21st August (7.45)

North End v Longford, 27th August (6.30)

was chatting to our own administator and its not definitely confirmed. Who confirmed this? The Leinster Football Association?

[Martinho II]

Are the LoI clubs in some way compelled to take part? Is there any reason why Pats or Rovers, say, might not just decline to enter the competition at all?

I know from doing my own research into our participation in this competition in the mid 90s there were a few seasons that we didnt enter a team in the LSC . Cant remember the exact reason could be lack of nos and as far as I can remember I dont think we were fined!

[Martinho II]

Just play it as a pre season for loi teams Cup. Take the end of January to the league start in February and squeeze as much of it in there as possible. That way the LSL teams have a better chance while also playing actual LOI teams and it has a set date. Maybe do it as group stages in pre season then the teams that top their groups or however the numbers work qualify out for knockouts to be played before June.

great idea Rathfarnham. That was the way the old league cup competition used to be run!

[sbgawa]

Just play it as a pre season for loi teams Cup. Take the end of January to the league start in February and squeeze as much of it in there as possible. That way the LSL teams have a better chance while also playing actual LOI teams and it has a set date. Maybe do it as group stages in pre season then the teams that top their groups or however the numbers work qualify out for knockouts to be played before June.


Great idea

[seand]

Never mind the LSC we should have the League Cup down to the semis at least before the start of the season, like in the good ol' days (mid 90s anyway).

[pineapple stu]

UCD v Crumlin now down for 2nd September

[pineapple stu]

UCD v Crumlin now not down for 2nd September.

Postponed, with no new date yet.

[PartySaint]

Cabo vs Pats on Sunday at half 3 in the QF.

Who is left in this tournament?

[pineapple stu]

UCD and Crumlin anyway...

[Mr A]

They should just save up the finals and play three on the same day.

[ForzaForth]

North End have to play Bohs away in the quarter-final.

[Longfordian]

I think North End hammered our u19s last week in a game that was due to have been played in February.

[Martinho II]

I think North End hammered our u19s last week in a game that was due to have been played in February.

yeah 5-1. very hard to get information on who scored for us and lineout/subs. Forza got the ball rolling for me and was superb as was at the game but as for filling the rest of the blanks nothing.. even got our under 19 mgr email address from our administrator and sent an email and still no info!
Its like the secret service.

wish this tournament would go tbh..

[Shearer]

wish this tournament would go tbh..
Outrageous comment. It's around since 1892 and is of greater importance to Intermediate sides than it is clubs in the League.
It's also not obligatory to enter.

[sbgawa]

Agree 100%
Cabo are in the quarter final and are up for it big time , for intermediate sides its huge and for clubs that are not going to be winning the main cups it is a chance of silverware.
Winning the LSC was a springboard for Shels recently,