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marinobohs
27/09/2018, 11:53 AM
Ger O'Brien would be a good choice, and popular with the fans but it might take a while for him to get up to speed. as I said in earlier post it depends where Pats see themselves next season, if they want to challenge then a more experienced manager may be the pick but if they are willing to build and give him some time GOB ticks the boxes. Ozo doing well at coaching underage but too big a step up at this point.
RathfarnhamHoop
27/09/2018, 12:49 PM
O'Brien doesn't have the pro badge yet but depending how far along with his badges he is there's a pro course coming up that if he's enrolled on it he could take the job.
Another route they could go is promote the u19 staff who seem to be doing a decent job
outspoken
27/09/2018, 1:18 PM
Tony Cousins, get a bet on him gents
When he was with Longford there was a strong suggestion that if Buckley lost his next game that Cousins was primed to replace him, he was even spotted at a succession of matches at the time. I’ll personally laugh if a free flowing St.Pat’s appoint a hoofball dinosaur who hasn’t been in work since he dunked Longford but anyway.
marinobohs
27/09/2018, 3:21 PM
O'Brien doesn't have the pro badge yet but depending how far along with his badges he is there's a pro course coming up that if he's enrolled on it he could take the job.
Another route they could go is promote the u19 staff who seem to be doing a decent job
Think I heard he has applied for the pro badge which was enough in the past (Heary among others). might even give it to him for remainder of season and see how it goes (and who else might be available).
Charlie Darwin
27/09/2018, 3:57 PM
Think I heard he has applied for the pro badge which was enough in the past (Heary among others). might even give it to him for remainder of season and see how it goes (and who else might be available).
Bradley was the same this year, but I think it's dependent on there being enough applications for them to run a course. If they weren't to run a pro course this year he'd just be out of luck.
Jack B
27/09/2018, 4:16 PM
Delighted with Lee Desmond signing a two year deal today, good timing as well with the reports coming out this morning that Rovers were after him.
Makes you wonder what the plan is though, it's a no-brainer on our end to make him an offer but presumably he could and would have gotten better offers elsewhere, and he spoke on the plans the club has in place as being a part of his decision. Added to that Ger alluded to how they're apparently trying to get other business done before the end of the season, all of this without actually having a manager in place. Seems a strange one unless the plan is to appoint from within.
Ezeikial
27/09/2018, 4:21 PM
Delighted with Lee Desmond signing a two year deal today, good timing as well with the reports coming out this morning that Rovers were after him.
Makes you wonder what the plan is though, it's a no-brainer on our end to make him an offer but presumably he could and would have gotten better offers elsewhere, and he spoke on the plans the club has in place as being a part of his decision. Added to that Ger alluded to how they're apparently trying to get other business done before the end of the season, all of this without actually having a manager in place. Seems a strange one unless the plan is to appoint from within.
Signing Lee Desmond is a no-brainer no matter who the manager will be.
Even if there is no decision made on the managerial strategy (and there might well be), the club can't just stand still on trying to re-sign other key players who are about to go out of contract
Jack B
27/09/2018, 4:30 PM
Signing Lee Desmond is a no-brainer no matter who the manager will be.
Even if there is no decision made on the managerial strategy (and there might well be), the club can't just stand still on trying to re-sign other key players who are about to go out of contract
Yeah as I said it's a no-brainer on the club's end, I'm more so thinking about it from Desmond's perspective. Even when taking my Pats hat off I think it's fair to say he's one of the best defenders in the league, and wouldn't be short on offers, likely better ones than Pats could offer at that (though maybe now that Fagan is essentially off Desmond will just take over the kind of wage he commanded). Just makes me wonder if maybe there's some set plans in place for next season already for him to be willing to stick with us this early.
marinobohs
28/09/2018, 10:23 AM
Yeah as I said it's a no-brainer on the club's end, I'm more so thinking about it from Desmond's perspective. Even when taking my Pats hat off I think it's fair to say he's one of the best defenders in the league, and wouldn't be short on offers, likely better ones than Pats could offer at that (though maybe now that Fagan is essentially off Desmond will just take over the kind of wage he commanded). Just makes me wonder if maybe there's some set plans in place for next season already for him to be willing to stick with us this early.
I expect the club owner(s) would have a plan in mind for next season irrespective of who the manger is. likely that a manager who is a good 'fit' with whatever way they want to go will be appointed.Nowadays you cant expect good players to hang around (to be fair to them they want things sorted ASAP) so its not like the club can ask players to hang around until we sort out the manager gig (which is likely not going to be until the season ends).
It is always a risk you end up with a player the manger doesn't like/rate but that's the risk you have to take. player must have some positive feedback on how the club is going to make them want to resign
bluemovie
28/09/2018, 3:52 PM
Someone mentioned Fenlon. He doesn't seem to have any interest in full-time management anymore. The Reynolds link was complete fish and chip paper talk just because he had been coach under Buckley. He wouldn't be going to Dublin.
Jack B
28/09/2018, 4:10 PM
Markey signing a two year deal also, said he was assured the style of football wouldn't be changing so that probably rules out any links of Doolin etc.
Markey signing a two year deal also, said he was assured the style of football wouldn't be changing so that probably rules out any links of Doolin etc.
That's good to hear. And possibly hints at Ger O'Brien. Wouldn't be unhappy with that. The only thing is I wouldn't like to lose him from the club if it went pear shaped. It might be early for him, but he's always struck me as a manager in waiting. We have a decent record with Liam and others of being patient with managers too.
marinobohs
01/10/2018, 3:02 PM
That's good to hear. And possibly hints at Ger O'Brien. Wouldn't be unhappy with that. The only thing is I wouldn't like to lose him from the club if it went pear shaped. It might be early for him, but he's always struck me as a manager in waiting. We have a decent record with Liam and others of being patient with managers too.
Yea, pats have a pretty good record of sticking with managers (many other fans were surprised Bucko lasted as long as he did). Ger O'Brien might have to grasp the opportunity if it arises.
Jack B
02/10/2018, 11:39 AM
That's good to hear. And possibly hints at Ger O'Brien. Wouldn't be unhappy with that. The only thing is I wouldn't like to lose him from the club if it went pear shaped. It might be early for him, but he's always struck me as a manager in waiting. We have a decent record with Liam and others of being patient with managers too.
A part of me - perhaps naively - believes Ger when he says he doesn't want it yet. He's got a decent a decent director of football/coaching gig and a good bit of time on his side for the moment. Could easily see someone like Harry Kenny getting it and Ger coming in after when he has his badges and a few more years of coaching under his belt. Who knows though.
Partizan
02/10/2018, 2:27 PM
Someone mentioned Fenlon. He doesn't seem to have any interest in full-time management anymore. The Reynolds link was complete fish and chip paper talk just because he had been coach under Buckley. He wouldn't be going to Dublin.
Indeed, Rennie going to Pats would be a step down for him.
PartySaint
02/10/2018, 3:22 PM
indeed, rennie going to pats would be a step down for him.
lol
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Indeed, Rennie going to Pats would be a step down for him.
Wouldn't touch him with the proverbial barge pole.
D24Saint
03/10/2018, 9:56 AM
Indeed, Rennie going to Pats would be a step down for him.
never ceases to amaze how quickly some clubs fans get ensconced up their own rectums.
Nesta99
03/10/2018, 11:04 AM
Never ceases to amaze me how quick some fans react exactly as a poster intends!
PartySaint
09/10/2018, 7:39 AM
Kenny Cunningham linked to the job today
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/soccer/kenny-cunningham-enters-talks-to-become-next-st-pats-manager-874541.html
Ezeikial
09/10/2018, 9:25 AM
Kenny Cunningham linked to the job today
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/soccer/kenny-cunningham-enters-talks-to-become-next-st-pats-manager-874541.html
According to that article the main contenders to Kenny Cunningham are Paul Doolin and Pat Fenlon. For a club that have experienced open passing football under Liam Buckley for the past 6 years, Doolin or Fenlon would represent a big culture shock.
PartySaint
09/10/2018, 10:31 AM
According to that article the main contenders to Kenny Cunningham are Paul Doolin and Pat Fenlon. For a club that have experienced open passing football under Liam Buckley for the past 6 years, Doolin or Fenlon would represent a big culture shock.
I'd be surprised if they were in contention.
From the names I'm hearing if it's not Harry Kenny it'll be someone who has never managed in the league before or even managed before....
sbgawa
09/10/2018, 10:47 AM
Fenlon ? please no, I might not like the results lately against Pats but at least its possible to enjoy the game
Jack B
09/10/2018, 10:52 AM
Doubt it'd be Fenlon or Doolin, or even Cunningham for that matter considering he seems to be of similar ilk (going off what he's said when doing punditry anyway) and Pats have stressed the point that that they'll be sticking to someone with as similar a philosophy as possible to Bucko's.
Philosophizer
09/10/2018, 12:48 PM
On the subject of Pats, where has Christy Fagan been this year? Injured or just not getting his game?
Nesta99
09/10/2018, 1:57 PM
Injured.
Jack B
09/10/2018, 1:59 PM
On the subject of Pats, where has Christy Fagan been this year? Injured or just not getting his game?
He picked up a by all accounts horrific knee injury in training back in June that has him out for the foreseeable. Had surgery on it within a day or so of it happening and I think he still might be going around on crutches according to some of the lads that saw him at Tolka for the LSC final. Wouldn't even be fit for the start of next season by looks.
Obviously a massive shame as despite his faltering form in recent seasons Christy will always be a hero at Pats and I think everyone was still willing him on where they would've ran out of patience with other players. Would have liked to see if he could turn it around under a new manager but as it stands I'd say he's played his late game for us.
marinobohs
16/10/2018, 11:04 AM
He picked up a by all accounts horrific knee injury in training back in June that has him out for the foreseeable. Had surgery on it within a day or so of it happening and I think he still might be going around on crutches according to some of the lads that saw him at Tolka for the LSC final. Wouldn't even be fit for the start of next season by looks.
Obviously a massive shame as despite his faltering form in recent seasons Christy will always be a hero at Pats and I think everyone was still willing him on where they would've ran out of patience with other players. Would have liked to see if he could turn it around under a new manager but as it stands I'd say he's played his late game for us.
Very sad for him. One of the best finishers of recent years in LOI when on form. Hopefully can make a decent recovery.
nigel-harps1954
24/10/2018, 3:15 PM
Harry Kenny according to reports this afternoon
SeanDMRooney
24/10/2018, 3:55 PM
Thats an uninspiring appointment
Harry Kenny according to reports this afternoon
PartySaint
24/10/2018, 4:01 PM
Thats an uninspiring appointment
Chatting to a few mates about it and we all had the same reaction, when Bucko left we all wanted Kenny to take over but now that it looks like he has we're all a bit underwhelmed
SeanDMRooney
24/10/2018, 4:08 PM
Chatting to a few mates about it and we all had the same reaction, when Bucko left we all wanted Kenny to take over but now that it looks like he has we're all a bit underwhelmed
I think it would be less underwhelming if he had more of a track record of success to go on, instead he's just a middle aged former manager of Bray doesnt scream innovation or excitement
He did very well at Bray all things considered. Seems a solid appointment.
D24Saint
24/10/2018, 4:46 PM
Solid appointment who will hopefully get us back on the right track next season , I’m happy with him getting the job.
I think ti would be less underwhelming if he had more of a track record of success to go on, instead he's just a middle aged former manager of Bray doesnt scream innovation or excitement
Unfortunately I have to agree. Wouldn't say it's a disaster of an appointment, but hardly the most exciting either. Will most likely keep us in mid table mediocrity.
sbgawa
24/10/2018, 8:30 PM
Disagree lads, Harry was excellent at bray and if he is supported at pats he could be a big success. Not as wedded to total football as bucko but not anti football either
total hoofball
24/10/2018, 9:57 PM
If Harry Kenny is underwhelming to any Pats fans then they should have another look around at the LOI out-of-work available manager ranks and then maybe they won't feel as underwhelmed
Kenny is probably the only available manager out there who in their most recent job didn't end up sacked, doesn't have a history of question marks over him (yet) and knows what the club is about from a successful time with them as assistant in 2013
nigel-harps1954
25/10/2018, 8:14 AM
I think it would be less underwhelming if he had more of a track record of success to go on, instead he's just a middle aged former manager of Bray doesnt scream innovation or excitement
About 99.9% of Finn Harps fans had the very same reaction to Ollie Horgan, and he had even less of a track record to Harry Kenny.
Longfordian
25/10/2018, 12:49 PM
And Ollie himself would tell you he’s done a terrible job.
Ezeikial
25/10/2018, 3:39 PM
Harry Kenny is a smart choice. If he is given a decent budget he has the ability to deliver a euro spot for St Pats
placid casual
25/10/2018, 10:04 PM
Yeah I agree, think H is a great appointment for pats.
It'll give him something to do until Bradley is fired for having us marooned in 3rd place( insert approx.due date here)
Ezeikial
26/10/2018, 7:04 AM
Yeah I agree, think H is a great appointment for pats.
It'll give him something to do until Bradley is fired for having us marooned in 3rd place( insert approx.due date here)
If he does well at Pats, it significantly increases the likelihood of him replacing the legend that is Bradley.
On the other hand if Rovers overtake Cork next season.......
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