Ryan Nolan (D Hércules b.1999)

[Fixer82]

Mods can move if there’s another thread.
I’m amazed this news has been so quiet in the media.

Ryan Nolan who has played underage for us has apparently signed for Inter Milan.

[jbyrne]

Mods can move if there’s another thread.
I’m amazed this news has been so quiet in the media.

Ryan Nolan who has played underage for us has apparently signed for Inter Milan.

discussed here...

https://foot.ie/threads/119079-Potentially-eligible-players-thread?p=1970914#post1970914

[DeLorean]

You should get a job with these guys, Fixer - https://mobile.twitter.com/SlowSportsNews :)

[Fixer82]

You should get a job with these guys, Fixer - https://mobile.twitter.com/SlowSportsNews :)

😂😂

I honestly never heard it mentioned anywhere

[tommy_c12000]

Recent article with Ryan. Refreshing to read, appears grounded and realistic, and most importantly committed to Ireland. He is hopeful of a call up to Kenny’s U21 squad for upcoming qualifiers: http://punditarena.com/football/oisinmcqueirns2758/inter-milans-ryan-nolan-on-italian-life-irish-dreams/

[tetsujin1979]

Inter signed two defenders in the January transfer window, so he's unlikely to get a chance in the first team this season

[tommy_c12000]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0213/1029408-irish-teen-nolan-named-in-inters-europa-league-squad/

Hopefully this guy will stay with us in case he turns out to be any good

[samhaydenjr]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0213/1029408-irish-teen-nolan-named-in-inters-europa-league-squad/

Hopefully this guy will stay with us in case he turns out to be any good

Excellent news... Stephen Kenny, this is your priority

[tetsujin1979]

Named on the bench for Inter this evening, game kicks off at 5:55.
Should be streams available in the usual places of you want to see if he comes on

[DeLorean]

Brilliant. LiveScore have him down as R. Patrick Nolan. :)

[tommy_c12000]

Ryan now in the first team squad on their website. He was not here last week. Positive sign. He does look a bit camera shy though. Can't seem to just get one image up there, oh wellhttps://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2762&stc=1

[tommy_c12000]

Doesn’t make tomorrow’s match day Squad Vs Sampdoria, after getting my hopes up after being left out of today’s primevera team vs udinese

[tommy_c12000]

Just lost the primevera supercopa to Torino in penos. Was captain

[Olé Olé]

Just lost the primevera supercopa to Torino in penos. Was captain
That's it. He's done.

[tommy_c12000]

Captained Inter Milan primavera/u19s to a 2-1 away win vs Juventus today, up to 4th in table. Hopefully he will be rewarded with a trip with senior team to Frankfurt on Thursday in Europa...

[IsMiseSean]

Hopefully he will be rewarded with a trip with senior team to Frankfurt on Thursday in Europa...

It would be great if Inter wrapped up a Champions League spot with a few games to go this season. He might get a first team appearance or two.

[musicinmouth]

Nolan captains Inter's U19 team in the Primavera 1 TM. Yesterday they beat Roma 3-1 and Inter posted the highlights of the game here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcN4UNi3sd4). You don't get to see him much, but gives you a flavour of the level he is playing at.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcN4UNi3sd4


Inter are now 3rd in the Primavera 1 TM (https://www.google.com/search?q=Primavera+1+TIM&oq=prima&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0j69i57j69i60l2j69i61.1092j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=lg;/g/11f6y3qp50;2;/g/11bc68jslg;st;fp;1;;).

[tommy_c12000]

Scored today in inter 19s 2-0 win in last 16 of the viareggio cup

[tommy_c12000]

Captained Inter U19s to 4-2 win vs AC Milan today, up to 2nd in table, 5 points behind Atlanta

[tommy_c12000]

Recent article with stats on Ryan's season: https://sempreinter.com/2019/04/16/a-look-at-ryan-nolan-the-captain-of-inters-primavera-team/

[tetsujin1979]

Inter U19's lost to Atalanta today, but have still qualified for the play offs of the Primavera in June, which will probably rule Nolan out of the Toulon tournament

[tetsujin1979]

Nolan captains inter against Roma in the semi final of the Primavera 1 TIM.
Inter are broadcasting it live in their Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=301047170784558&id=139132459470235

[tommy_c12000]

Cruising into final, 2-0 with a few minutes left. Anyone watching it?

[DeLorean]

Cruising into final, 2-0 with a few minutes left. Anyone watching it?

No, but I found a player rating report here - http://www.mondoprimavera.com/2019/06/11/inter-roma-le-pagelle-dei-nerazzurri-esposito-scatenato-salcedo-generoso/


Nolan 6,5: very positive test for the Nerazzurri defensive center. prevails in several circumstances in the air comparison with one of the most uncomfortable customers of the entire championship, that is the Giallorossi attacker Celar.

[tommy_c12000]

Inter just conceded a goal, 1-0 down with 5 minutes left and Nolan immediately sacrificed for a striker (not a good sign that the captain is sacrificed rather than one of the other center halves)

[tommy_c12000]

All over, Inter lost the final 1-0 to Atalanta. Seems like a good season overall from him. Hopefully he can secure a serie B loan move now in the coming weeks. One more year left on his contract

[tommy_c12000]

Looks like I did Ryan an injustice. He came off due to a "muscle problem," appears to have had a steady (if unspectacular) game. http://www.mondoprimavera.com/2019/06/14/finale-primavera-atalanta-inter-le-pagelle-dei-nerazzurri/

[tommy_c12000]

Linked to US Triestina today, serie C team, who have been refounded 3 times since the 1990s, 2016 being the most recent time. Not an overly inspiring link. No mention of loan vs transfer.

https://m.trivenetogoal.it/2019/07/29/mercato-triestina-trattativa-con-linter-per-ryan-nolan-gli-aggiornamenti/79820/

[samhaydenjr]

Linked to US Triestina today, serie C team, who have been refounded 3 times since the 1990s, 2016 being the most recent time. Not an overly inspiring link. No mention of loan vs transfer.

https://m.trivenetogoal.it/2019/07/29/mercato-triestina-trattativa-con-linter-per-ryan-nolan-gli-aggiornamenti/79820/

This article says that Triestina would be a loan move, but that Leeds and Brighton are interested also, possibly on a permanent basis: https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/07/29/report-leeds-battling-brighton-and-hove-albion-for-ryan-nolan/

[Park_Lane]

Linked to US Triestina today, serie C team, who have been refounded 3 times since the 1990s, 2016 being the most recent time. Not an overly inspiring link. No mention of loan vs transfer.

https://m.trivenetogoal.it/2019/07/29/mercato-triestina-trattativa-con-linter-per-ryan-nolan-gli-aggiornamenti/79820/

Conor McCormacks old team

[tommy_c12000]

Reports from Italy are that Nolan is on his way to Leeds United. Claiming it should be confirmed soon https://app.football-italia.net/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.football-italia.net%2F141714%2Finter-pair-agree-leeds-moves#article/footballitalia-141714

Although I would have liked him to stay on continent, an appropriate offer clearly wasn’t forthcoming. I am actually delighted with this move. Leeds are a big club, will be in premier league in the next year or 2, have an excellent manager, and are very light on center halves at the moment. It is a superb opportunity for Nolan. He has had state of the art coaching at the home of defensive mastery for the past 4 years, he’s 20 and it’s time to see if he can step up to the next level. I hope this is confirmed officially soon

[tommy_c12000]

Appears deal is off to leeds. https://m.fcinternews.it/focus/fcin-leeds-saltato-nolan-per-colidio-filtra-pessimismo-314925

Was told he was off to kilmarnock on loan once he signed 3 year contract according to above.

[tommy_c12000]

Deadline well and truly passed now. Very disappointing that the Leeds deal didn’t happen, obviously didn’t fancy a year with Kilmarnock, the intentions of Leeds should have been ascertained from his agent earlier in the process. Nolan now has until Sept 2 to find a new club outside of the prem/championship

[Diggs246]

I don't blame him, how can you do business with people like that. Leeds completely reneged on the deal.

[tommy_c12000]

Nolan’s partner in crime Colidio is off on a year loan to Belgium first division team, Sint Truiden. Would be great if Inter can sort out a similar move to a European top division this week for Nolan

[tommy_c12000]

Appears transfer agreed between Inter and Arezzo. A serie C team. No agreement from Nolan yet who looks to be holding out for serie B. Season starts this weekend. A shame he hasn’t got himself sorted yet. Obviously serie B would be strongly preferred

https://m.fcinternews.it/focus/fcin-arezzo-e-inter-accordo-per-nolan-manca-il-si-del-difensore-316123

[Charlie Darwin]

Gives a bit of context maybe to why other players were selected ahead of him for the under-21s.

[tommy_c12000]

Gives a bit of context maybe to why other players were selected ahead of him for the under-21s.

In what context? Conor Masterson QPR, hasn’t made the squad for a league game yet and certainly his career doesn’t look to be going anywhere promising, Dara O’Shea West Brom, has only played league games at level 4 in England with Exeter (where he was solid rather than being spectacular), hasn’t made any league appearances yet at championship level, Liam Scales who remains with the whipping boys of the LOI and is unlikely to get anywhere of significance in his career. U keep banging on about this point but yet I don’t see the justification.

You don’t get to be primevera captain of one of the top Italian teams without some substance. And certainly he warranted a better look at over the last couple of years than he has received. For him to not even be in squads and for league of Ireland players to be ahead of him is insulting. It seems to me other players were selected ahead of him on the back of the typical irish begrudgery attitude of you’re not doing it the typical way that we like it, so we don’t like it and we won’t select u.

[Charlie Darwin]

I don't know what you think I've been banging on about but you seem to think not getting a look-in at Inter is great so fair play. Masterson has played well for the 21s, as has O'Shea who has made a senior debut for West Brom and Scales spent the summer being courted by another decent team at a higher standard than Serie C. Never said he had no substance, just that other players are justifiably ahead of him. He might turn out to be a great player and I hope he does. And, like it or not, the League of Ireland is a higher standard than the Italian youth league.

[Eirambler]

I think some people have maybe got a bit carried away with this lad because he captained the Inter Milan youths. There seems to still be a tendancy to rate youth players at Italian and other continental leagues higher than youth players at English teams for some reason. I see a bit of it in the hyping of Ryan Johannson as well, although at least in his case he seems closer to the first team at a younger age than Nolan.

I don't know if it's because the likes of Inter were so strong back in the 90s or because there's a rarity value to having an Irish player playing over there.

Personally I wouldn't see captaining the Inter Primavera team as being any different to captaining Liverpool Under 23s. Corey Whelan did that and now plays his football in the US lower leagues. If Nolan comes good then that's great. However, the likes of Masterson, O'Shea and Scales have all done well for our Under 21s and I haven't seen or heard anything to suggest that Nolan is ahead of those lads.

[tommy_c12000]

I don't know what you think I've been banging on about but you seem to think not getting a look-in at Inter is great so fair play. Masterson has played well for the 21s, as has O'Shea who has made a senior debut for West Brom and Scales spent the summer being courted by another decent team at a higher standard than Serie C. Never said he had no substance, just that other players are justifiably ahead of him. He might turn out to be a great player and I hope he does. And, like it or not, the League of Ireland is a higher standard than the Italian youth league.

Masterson has done nothing ever at club level, O’Shea has not played a league game for West Brom, only played league 2, and Scales got done badly by Bristol Rovers, not exactly “courted” by anyone else. Not exactly giving great “context” as why Nolan wasn’t at least included in more of the squads over the years. There have been other players included him as well, just don’t think he’s had a fair crack at the whip.

Anyways, he’s at a crucial juncture of his career. If he stoops to serie C, hopefully it will be a loan deal and have a chance at signing for a decent club when his contract expires next summer. If he goes to serie C permanently then I will bow down and acknowledge the amazing foresight by the Irish underage mgt of not giving him a proper chance over the years. He would need a lot of luck progressing from this. Serie B permanently would be a solid move for him, let hope he can secure it. Clubs may be in the market next week with sept 2 deadline so worth waiting for the right move

[pineapple stu]

Scales was courted by other clubs btw - Fleetwood were one. He chose Bristol, and I think when the deal fell through, the other clubs had signed alternatives

[tommy_c12000]

Scales was courted by other clubs btw - Fleetwood were one. He chose Bristol, and I think when the deal fell through, the other clubs had signed alternatives

Judging by Graham Coughlans comments the interest of other clubs was a fantasy story by the Dublin media (possibly generated by UCD) in an attempt to strengthen Scales hands and drive up any fee. Coughlan used it as an excuse to pull out of the deal. When Rovers pulled out, there were no other clubs interested, so gives creedance to Coughlans claims.

Unfortunately, it backfired leaving a young footballer without an opportunity having turned down a chance to play PL2 with Man City

[Olé Olé]

Judging by Graham Coughlans comments the interest of other clubs was a fantasy story by the Dublin media (possibly generated by UCD) in an attempt to strengthen Scales hands and drive up any fee. Coughlan used it as an excuse to pull out of the deal. When Rovers pulled out, there were no other clubs interested, so gives creedance to Coughlans claims.

Unfortunately, it backfired leaving a young footballer without an opportunity having turned down a chance to play PL2 with Man City

The Gospel according to Graham Coughlan.

[Charlie Darwin]

Not exactly giving great “context” as why Nolan wasn’t at least included in more of the squads over the years.
Have you considered that the manager looked at a bunch of players playing at similar levels and made a judgement call based on their relative abilities? It's notoriously difficult to predict how good a player will be at that age when they're not playing senior football. We came fourth in Toulon so the decision he made seems to have worked out OK.

And as Pineapple Stu said, more clubs were in for Scales - he's well thought-of and his international recognition reflects that.

[pineapple stu]

Judging by Graham Coughlans comments the interest of other clubs was a fantasy story by the Dublin media (possibly generated by UCD) in an attempt to strengthen Scales hands and drive up any fee. Coughlan used it as an excuse to pull out of the deal.
Eh, no. Fleetwood were interested. I wasn't talking to Scales myself about this, but I was talking to a guy I know who had just been talking to Scales about it. I'm quite happy the interest was real.

[liamoo11]

I have never seen him play so I have no opinion but it seems strange that he wasnt prepared to sign for Leeds because they wanted him to go on loan to kilmarnock but would now drop to serie c. Kilmarnock would have been great chance to play senior football with loads of games across a season against Celtic and rangers

[elatedscum]

<Sorry for the essay>


Centre half is probably the position where players develop latest. I think it has something to do with the fact that mistakes (which every young player will makes) are punished much more harshly there than any other outfield position. Out of position, costs a goal, go to ground when you shouldn’t, costs a goal. Etc Etc. Duffy was 24 before he was up to standard for Ireland, Richie Dunne only broke into the Irish team two weeks before his 26th birthday – and they’re probably the two outstanding post-Charlton centre-halves.



Personally I wouldn't see captaining the Inter Primavera team as being any different to captaining Liverpool Under 23s. Corey Whelan did that and now plays his football in the US lower leagues. If Nolan comes good then that's great. However, the likes of Masterson, O'Shea and Scales have all done well for our Under 21s and I haven't seen or heard anything to suggest that Nolan is ahead of those lads.


In fairness, Corey Whelan got that job partly cause he’s a scouser, partly because Liverpool loaned out half of their u23 squad and a few were injured and another few sold and partly cause he was at the club since age 8. Here’s a quote about Curtis Jones getting the captaincy today: "Curtis is obviously a local boy and he has come through the Academy. If possible, we will always try to get somebody to lead the team of that ilk.”


Whelan is a nice composed player who was a regular for our u21s and handled himself well at that level but he was never a guy who had a realistic chance of making it at Liverpool, especially with Trent ahead of him. Saying that, he’s also less than a month away from still being an u21. It’s conceivable that he plays a season or two in the US and then signs for a championship side and he ends up on a Conor Coady type trajectory, although as a player Kevin Foley is perhaps the most similar player I can think of.


An irish lad captaining inter is a little different to that. There’s probably also the fact Italian football has always and continues to produce quality defenders.




You don’t get to be primevera captain of one of the top Italian teams without some substance. And certainly he warranted a better look at over the last couple of years than he has received. For him to not even be in squads and for league of Ireland players to be ahead of him is insulting. It seems to me other players were selected ahead of him on the back of the typical irish begrudgery attitude of you’re not doing it the typical way that we like it, so we don’t like it and we won’t select u.


It’s also worth noting that the 98, 99 class is absolutely loaded with centre backs, it’s probably where that group have the most depth...


He’s gone with Masterson, O’Shea and Scales - I think Masterson and Scales both have a chance of being really good defenders if things break their way.


Corrie Ndaba also made the first squad which was a larger squad than the Toulon squad. He seems to have gone backwards since then. Ipswich’s manager mentioned last season that he would play for them but it never happened and they’ve gone down to league 1 and it still hasn’t happened.


Nolan was on standby for that squad, so at the time he was probably considered 5th centre half. Along with those guys, you’ve got Warren O’Hora (Brighton), Aaron O’Driscoll (Southampton), Thomas O’Connor (Southampton ) who all are different but promising in their own right.


There’s a few LOI lads: Ciaran Kelly of Pats has looked very good every time I’ve seen him play, the same is true of James Finnerty at Bohs. I’ve heard good things about Sam Todd, Conor McCarthy and John Mahon without having seen much of them. And once again, considering the pace of development for centre-halves, playing first choice at a league of Ireland club at 20 certainly wouldn’t be behind playing first choice for a Premier League u23 side.

Then there’s Nathan Collins who is still an u19 in this campaign but there’s obviously a decision to made as whether the U19s need him to anchor their side or he’s better being move up the age groups – or do you do both? U21s in September and October and U19s for their group in November.


Personally, I’d have Ryan Nolan in the squad (I watched a few of his performance for Inter’s u19s in the Youth Champion’s League and he looked like a good footballer) but I think Kenny’s decisions are understandable and justifiable. He’s actually gone out of his way to praise lads who went alternate routes for first team football: Mallon, Power, Ronan - so you couldn’t accuse him of picking players on anything other than merit…

[tommy_c12000]

His move to Arezzo confirmed on their website:
http://www.ssarezzo.it/2019/08/29/ryan-nolan-veste-lamaranto/
3 year deal, not in squad for tomorrow’s game though. Hopefully will start soon and get a full season of first team football under his belt. I’d imagine he has contract caveats to allow him to move if suitable offer comes in.

For what it’s worth, Arezzo play in Tuscany, capital is Florence. They seem like a reasonably sized club with stadium size 13,100. They play in serie C league A (serie C broken down into 3 divisions) with only one serie B and are one of the stronger teams this year. Probably the equivalent closer to league one than league two in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, given they’re one of the top sides in division. They narrowly missed promotion to serie B last year so will be hoping to get promoted this year. I haven’t lost all hope for Ryan just yet, if he can play a regular season and get some exposure with Stephen Kenny’s side, you never know

[Eirambler]

Will be interesting to see how he gets on but the level he has moved to would suggest that he has indeed been vastly overrated by some Irish fans and the response to his being left out of under 21 squads was a bit over the top.

Serie C looks like a bit of a basket case of a league with more teams being demoted through insolvency than actually being relegated - Bury/Bolton type situations seem to occur every season.

Arezzo would appear somewhat similar to a team like maybe Gillingham in England and Nolan is a similar age to someone like Thomas O'Connor so it might be interesting to compare how those two players get on over the next few months following their recent moves.