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bluemovie
12/04/2005, 12:54 PM
I meant to call it Sligo weekly....when we were in the First Division they ignored it completely. Fair play to Sligo for sending in the footage EVERY week, at least they try to promote the image of the club. As for the other stuff, yeah we all agree that stuff is crap especially Laurel and Hardy, but last night was almost watchable.
By the way, Pineapple, will i have to get to Belfield early on Friday to get a seat? Expecting a sell-out with the masses of UCD fans turning up to see the table-toppers with your best two players of last season warming our bench?
Schumi
12/04/2005, 1:37 PM
Rubbish, highlights from two of the six premier games is ridiculous.
By the way, Pineapple, will i have to get to Belfield early on Friday to get a seat? Expecting a sell-out with the masses of UCD fans turning up to see the table-toppers with your best two players of last season warming our bench?
You signed Kenna? :eek:
eirebhoy
12/04/2005, 2:00 PM
I watched the first half of ELW last night and they showed highlights of he Bray match and the Derry match. They then named the games they'll show after the break and Pats weren't mentioned. Have Pats been on the show at all this season yet?
Slash/ED
12/04/2005, 5:53 PM
They can't show Pats yet they can get cameras to Inchicore to see Dublin City player, what's going on there? I think Kinger and Scully are alright but the amount of premier matches they showed is an absolute disgrace, how can you not show a Cork home match when they're one of the title contenders ffs? Also King and scully should at least pretend they're not seing the footage for the first time, they've had a whole weekend to get a look at them and come up with some notes and outlines on things to say! But at least Scully seems to have loosened up a bit and is coming across better this year.
So Ny Hoop- what you're saying is that el weekly should refuse to show games from the first division, where the club involved has shown the initiative to go out and pay for a camera, unless all premier games are covered.
That hardly seems fair.
Maybe all premier teams who aren't going to be covered should be told in advance so that they can arrange a camera (or several cameras) themselves.
Perhaps even all league clubs should pay a fixed fee into a pool each week that would then be used to guarentee at least one camera at every league game. Could the the clubs co-operate and help themselves? Probably not, (and they shouldn't have to of course) but it certainly would make every club more attractive to sponsors and would raise the profile of the league. It would also mean less 'analysis' and more goals and real action on eL weekly.
Say it cost €600 per game (which would be conservative enough a figure I think)- thats just €300 per club for guarenteed TV time every single week.
Ah, it'll never work though.
Slash/ED
12/04/2005, 7:52 PM
The clubs shouldn't have to pay for TV3 to fulfill their agreement to put a highlights package of the EL on the air. A highlights package of the EL should show all matches in the premier division, any first division matches then are a bonus (And fair play to the clubs involved there).
The programme was poo the last night. Trying to drag out the affair when they only had highlights of 3 of 6 Premier games was excruciating, hence hte overdose of Kinger waffle, shots of Derry fans and the "decent" package from Bray. If they wanted to examine the ROver situation they should have at least had a wee report done up showing a few clips or interviews, simply turning to the 2 lads going "well, what do ya think about it boys?" is pathetic. I can get that kind of 'analysis' down the pub.
TV3 seem to have reduced their budget drastically this year despite the fact the overall TV deal with RTE/Setanta/TG4 guarantees them around 30 games filmed at no cost from which they can use the highlights they are sending less cameras to games. No cameras at 2 home games in Dublin last week or at Turners Cross. They are becoming too reliant on clubs sending in footage (which should be a bonus) and Harps will not be sending them any more till they sort themselves out and make some kind of commitment to cover a decent proportion of our games themselves.
The programme is slipping badly and it is totally down to them not commiting budget to it. I've always defended them for making an effort, but from what I see the effort is no longer there and they are filling time.
As
NY Hoop
14/04/2005, 1:00 PM
So Ny Hoop- what you're saying is that el weekly should refuse to show games from the first division, where the club involved has shown the initiative to go out and pay for a camera, unless all premier games are covered.
That hardly seems fair.
Maybe all premier teams who aren't going to be covered should be told in advance so that they can arrange a camera (or several cameras) themselves.
Perhaps even all league clubs should pay a fixed fee into a pool each week that would then be used to guarentee at least one camera at every league game. Could the the clubs co-operate and help themselves? Probably not, (and they shouldn't have to of course) but it certainly would make every club more attractive to sponsors and would raise the profile of the league. It would also mean less 'analysis' and more goals and real action on eL weekly.
Say it cost €600 per game (which would be conservative enough a figure I think)- thats just €300 per club for guarenteed TV time every single week.
Ah, it'll never work though.
To be honest with you yeah. Did you see the "crowd" at inchicore for the galway game? That's embarrassing. Who benefits from looking at that? More people watching kids kicking around in my local green FFS.
When TV3 failed to show last season we got together and forked out a ton each to get cameras but now we have a lot more important issues to think about.
There should have been a camera at our game and at inchicore and why wasnt the cork game shown? Ridiculous and scandalous.
Someone else mentioned that sligo have the camera in the wrong stand. Correct and this is also a problem for waterford, cork and derry but then that's another thread.
IF the programme was an hour long then the 6 premier and some first division games could be shown. There has to be some reason why they wont extend the show to an hour.
KOH
Longfordian
14/04/2005, 1:17 PM
We sent in footage of at least one of our home games, as we have our own camera system but TV3 said they didn't want it. Then they don't bother sending cameras to games in fúckin Dublin, as far as i'm aware they've sent cameras (of their own) to Flancare maybe once or twice in the past two seasons, the only way we'd get shown was if we filmed the match and sent it in to them. That was costing €100 every time before we bought a camera system this season. Their coverage is a joke at this stage.
Slash/ED
14/04/2005, 2:34 PM
Hopefully when the contract for EL Weekly ends Setanta step in, they could get an hour show no problem, they're desperate for things to take up some time, all they show is repeats of live events from the previous few days most of the time as it is. They'd do a proper job on it too.
Redzer
14/04/2005, 2:49 PM
Eh that's b**z Rovers.
Also I dont agree with showing first division UNLESS ALL premier games are shown. The Bray game wasnt shown but the sligo one was? :confused:
KOH
We supply the footage from the Showgrounds each week. TV3 is willing to show the highlights from any match if it is edited correctly for them. There is no reason other clubs can not take up our initiate, especially premier division clubs. It’s no point complaining about Sligo Rovers getting airtime, if your club sits on their asres and expects the cameras to attend to them.
Last week was our biggest attendance, but unfortunately the camera is situated high in the new stand, where all the supporters are gathered, and what the viewer sees is a sh*tty crowd. We must consider changing the camera point, because it does give a poor reflection of the crowd.
It’s far from a first-rate programme on the Eircom League, but it’s the only thing we’ve got. It’s up to the clubs to promote their own grounds. So, instead of running down clubs who is trying to promote the game locally, you should take a leaf out of our book and do the same.
harry crumb
14/04/2005, 3:03 PM
I thought that was funny when they said that it was Sligo's biggest crowd in ages and all you could see was roughly 7 people in the footage watching the match.
Clubs should have their cameras in positions that show a healthy crowd in the backround. This is the case in Cork anyway, the camera shows the smallest stand in the stadium with a load of houses in the backround. It looks terrible.
Houses in the background? We wish we had houses in the background.
pineapple stu
14/04/2005, 3:10 PM
TV3 is willing to show the highlights from any match if it is edited correctly for them.
You have to edit it as well for them?! If that's true, that's a disgrace! Sure they'll be asking for the commentary and a script for the pundits to read next... :rolleyes:
Longfordian
14/04/2005, 3:20 PM
Feck doing their job for them, bad enough they're not making any effort to cover it properly without editing it for them too. Why do they bother with the show at all if they don't want to do anything for it? Let someone like Setanta do a proper job on it.
i sent in tv3 an email asking them to cover some of our games - they said they deffo will show the games but asked me if i minded transmitting the pictures for them - in broadcast format*
*may not have happened
Schumi
14/04/2005, 3:28 PM
I'm surprised they didn't ask you to source the ads for the breaks too. :rolleyes:
bluemovie
14/04/2005, 7:42 PM
What kind of a contract did they sign with the League? That's disgraceful that you have to edit it yourself. That station is a joke. That's why I didn't enter their Bulmers sports quiz....couldn't stick listening to Trevor Welsh for a few hours and they'd probably get the questions wrong anyway....at least you knew the Today FM football quiz last year would be run professionally.
A face
18/04/2005, 6:05 PM
Just an auld reminder for the people .... up you come big fella !!
11.25 - be there .... or you'll end up missing it like !! :p
Longfordian
19/04/2005, 12:02 AM
Stick it on at 11.45 and then don't show all the games yet again, even when there were cameras there such as ours. Maybe we didn't edit it for them :rolleyes: ..We've been shown once in five weeks and that was the Setanta cup where they had access to another TV sations footage all nicely edited for them. Jokers. The sooner that show is replaced with somehing better by any station the better. Poor oul Harry McCue was a bit lost.
A face
19/04/2005, 12:10 AM
The fact remains .... this is all we have .... that and these "Live Games" .... how many have there been .... 2 ...... and there'll be about an extra 6 games shown or something stupid like that compared to last year.
The League have signed up to this !!
The League are happy to settle for this !!
The League wont be changing and time soon and you are telling them its OK by accepting it, so how can you blame them ??
harry crumb
19/04/2005, 12:13 AM
That show was a new low. :mad:
Trevor's repetoire of questions is staggering. :D
eirebhoy
19/04/2005, 12:21 AM
Here's a pretty funny post from someone on boards.ie:
TV3 Bosses : OK everybody, we've been making the Eircom League Weekly a terrible spectacle over the past two years, but this week I want everybody involved to make an extra special effort to make it look crap.
Sports Team(ST) : How about we get Trevor Welch to present the show, hes the most boring presenter in world?
TV3 : Good thinking, but Trevor on his own could not make it as shoddy as I want it.
ST : How about getting amatuer cameramen?
TV3 : Now you're talking
ST : Wow this is easy. We could get Harry McCue to do the analysis, sure nobody would understand a word he's saying with his adenoids problem.
TV3 : Brilliant
ST : I think 11.25 is too early for it to be on, we should push back the timeslot 'till a quarter to twelve, lets really make sure nobody is watching it.
TV3 : Give this man a raise
ST : I was thinking that us producers should get drunk on Monday night and see if we can still manage to show the clips in the right order as a sort of test. I'll bet you 10 euro that I won't get the order of clips mixed up.
TV3 : Ill take that bet. Lads this is all gold.
ST : Sir, I think we should tell our reporters on the ground to conduct interviews with managers in the worst places possible.
TV3 : Give me an example
ST : Well sir, instead of doing the post match interviews where the clubs have a designated area, we could do them in cheaper places.
TV3 : You mean out on the pitch
ST : We can do worse than that sir. Thats the norm anyway(laughs out loud). I'm talking backrounds with brick walls covered in moss and rooms that look like a childrens classroom.
TV3 : Excellent. We'll be rid of those cursed rights yet.
New Guy in the Corner : But sir, the ratings have been suprisingly good all along despite our efforts to make it as **** as possible.
TV3 : You're all right kid.(laughs)
harry crumb
19/04/2005, 12:27 AM
very good. :D
It wouldn't suprise me if its true.
Poor Student
19/04/2005, 12:28 AM
Damn I forgot to watch it. Is it repeated at all? Were UCD on it this week?
Longfordian
19/04/2005, 12:38 AM
No they didn't show UCD-Waterford or Town-Bray at all.
GK for the Town
19/04/2005, 8:15 AM
UCD game not on and i dont think they have repeats, [It'd probably be on at about 3am if there was-when most people are asleep]
Its amazing how a programme that lasts 40 mins cant show highlights of the small amount of league games that are played weekly in the Eircom prem & 1st.
Sure even UTV show all the highlights of the championship,1st & 2nd divisions in England.
Did anyone notice aswell on last nite's show that after the small highlights for Cork vs. Bohs, they couldnt even show Corks goals again when they tried. It skipped into highlights of the Drogheda vs. Rovers game. Pure Class !!! - technical difficulties..
KR's Post
19/04/2005, 8:18 AM
No they didn't show UCD-Waterford or Town-Bray at all.
Was @ both games and i'm so dissapointed. Thought i'd see myself :D :D . But seriously, tv3 are d*ickheads... Get a proper station to run it and with proper analysis. Sorry Harry McCue. :eek: And repeats @ 05.35 in the morning. Wat a joke!!! :mad:
Never staying up for it again :mad:
Its pathetic
bluemovie
19/04/2005, 12:35 PM
I stood up for TV3 a little last week, but last night was one of the worst programmes I've ever seen of any type on any television station. Disastrous from start to finish. Nobody associated with that programme should have been able to sleep last night for the embarrassment. :mad: :mad: :mad:
They think Trevor is their star man, but he's easily the worst presenter they have....at least since they stopped pretending Aidan Cooney knew anything about sport. There were the usual irritatingly stupid comments...Trevor's "the weekend's only Dublin derby" (don't do it, fatso, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry :mad: ) and King's "Bohs didn't strengthen in the summer" :rolleyes: And poor Harry is just not made for TV even that long after the watershed.
They didn't know in the end whether they needed to fill time or hurry on. What's the rush? Did Harry The Ghoul have to get home before the sun came up? As for the content and technical production, there's just no point in wasting the time thinking about it. No wonder that fella who was sentenced last week for breaking into TV3 took a dump on the windowsill. He must've been an eircom League fan.
holidaysong
19/04/2005, 2:12 PM
It was awful, I switched over to Jack Dee on BBC1 - he was funny... :D
Slash/ED
19/04/2005, 2:15 PM
If I'd known Jack Dee was on I'd have done the same.
McCue was awful, didn't know what he was doing, not cut out for TV. They, as ever, didn't cover all the games (Whats the fookin point of a highlights show that doesn't show highlights?) and couldn't even get the small amount of clips they had right.
The FAI told TV3 they had to do this show as part of getting the rights for the Irish matches on delayed coverage, if we had any kind of a decent association on this island they wouldn't stand by and let TV3 get away with this sub standard production shown at crazy hours, but we don't, so they'll continue to get away with it.
It was awful, I switched over to Jack Dee on BBC1 - he was funny... :D
So did i, he was fcuking brilliant - as always :D
Slash/ED
19/04/2005, 2:39 PM
He's fantastic alright, one of the best stand up comedians around.
Have to stand up for Harry here - he knows his onions - wtf do yiz want in the pundits Justin fCKING FASHNU?!??! ALLY MCCOIST???!?!?
Troy.McClure
19/04/2005, 3:03 PM
If you cut out Harry's nervous "eh's" he was one of the better pannelists. He actually knows what he's talking about and looks beyond Shels when he's talking. Once he gets used to the camera and lights he'll be quite good. And so what if Trev said that there was only 1 Dublin darby on over the weekend, its true! :eek:
It wasnt too bad, even Kinger had a football tie on!
I fell asleep watching it!
Seriously not worth staying up for, you'd see
better watching the games on Aertel
Longfordian
19/04/2005, 3:04 PM
Justin fCKING FASHNU?!??!
Hope not, he's dead isn't he?!
.....what are you implying about Harry!??!? ;)
monkey magic
19/04/2005, 3:36 PM
.....what are you implying about Harry!??!? ;)
have to say harry knew his stuff... tipped us for big things this season ;)
as for the rest of the production: rubbish
A face
19/04/2005, 3:46 PM
TBH ... i thought Harry gave far more info in any one comment than Kinger gave in the whole show.
bluemovie
19/04/2005, 6:01 PM
If you cut out Harry's nervous "eh's" he was one of the better pannelists. He actually knows what he's talking about and looks beyond Shels when he's talking. Once he gets used to the camera and lights he'll be quite good. And so what if Trev said that there was only 1 Dublin darby on over the weekend, its true! :eek:
It wasnt too bad, even Kinger had a football tie on!
My problem with the Dublin derbies is that there can only ever be two anyway, but TV3 would prefer if there were six of them every week so that they wouldn't have to pretend they knew anything about the provincial teams.
Harry does know his stuff, but it was torture to watch him shifting about like a Dickensian criminal. That's the producers fault though for not prepping him.
A face
19/04/2005, 6:25 PM
Harry does know his stuff, but it was torture to watch him shifting about like a Dickensian criminal. That's the producers fault though for not prepping him.
I really think people are making a really big issue of this ..... way over the top in fairness :eek: i know he wasn't prepped and polished but it was his first appearance ffs.
I can remember one of the first interviews i saw Pat Fenlon giving and the guy seemed to be rattling ..... now he's ... well ... hes Pat Fenlon and i dont think anyone one in the league would have it any other way. maybe that was a bad choice of example but you know what i mean
Give the guy a break .... its not like the league has an abundance of people all sized up for tv land ..... when the guy gets his bearings it'll be far better having some knowing what they are on about than someone like Shoddy Roddy !!
Coltron
19/04/2005, 7:09 PM
Your on form this weather Bluemovie, quality posts!
I especailly liked the:
'And poor Harry is just not made for TV even that long after the watershed' :D
and
'Did Harry The Ghoul have to get home before the sun came up' :D
Stop I can't take much more...your killing me...
A face
19/04/2005, 9:13 PM
quality posts!
Have to agree there though ... cracked up laughing !! :p
have to say harry knew his stuff... tipped us for big things this season ;)
as for the rest of the production: rubbish
as bad as he was at least he acknowledged we were an el club as id say its the first time we have been mentioned all season.they havent shown any of us since the start of the season and no doubt they will have tomoros game in flancare on cause its shels we are playing.absolute rubbish why may i ask do we need to see the goals three times where is the fans forum thing at the end of the show goal of the month etc.that was actually worth watching instead we must listen to king talking **** out him.i can safely say he knows nothing about soccer.he says the same every week how brilliant shels are how harps will struggle how drogs have the money so they should challenges etc
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