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Has the Dundalk striker told the press how he wants his surname pronounced or what!
Can you think of any other players besides the foreign names that have been pronounced different to what you expect!
I remember Tim Cahill now with Millwall again, prefers his surname to sound like Kay...Hill rather then Ca...hill!
Anyone! :vampire:
osarusan
12/03/2018, 8:57 AM
Dundalk? Don't you mean Dundork?
patrickccfc
12/03/2018, 9:12 AM
One "O" surely means it's just Ho-ban.
BREAKING: Graham Cummins (Come-ins) announces he wants his name to be pronounced Cumins(Q-mins) because he likes the spice
White Horse
12/03/2018, 9:16 AM
Patrick Hoban is quite fussy with his name.
He doesn't like being called Pat either. Its either Patrick or Pa.
Also, I didn't realise that McNulty was pronounced B-A-S-T-A-R-D.
Ezeikial
12/03/2018, 9:30 AM
Has the Dundalk striker told the press how he wants his surname pronounced or what!
Could it possibly be that the Eir Sport commentator did his research?
It's how he has always pronounced his own name - any journalist worth his salt would know this from listening to Stephen Kenny speaking about him in interviews over the years.
CorribsideSteve
12/03/2018, 9:39 AM
It reminds me of Keeping Up Appearances; "It's Bouquet!!! NOT Bucket!".
It reminds me of Keeping Up Appearances; "It's Bouquet!!! NOT Bucket!".
Besides the obvious, what names do rivals fans call each other!
Could we start a list for each team!
Mind your language please!
jinxy lilywhite
12/03/2018, 10:27 AM
Bohemians. --- Bohs, gypos
Cork - langers
Drogheda - minnows, Shelbyville
Shamrock Rovers - rovers, scum, junkies,
oriel
12/03/2018, 11:32 AM
Has the Dundalk striker told the press how he wants his surname pronounced or what!
Can you think of any other players besides the foreign names that have been pronounced different to what you expect!
I remember Tim Cahill now with Millwall again, prefers his surname to sound like Kay...Hill rather then Ca...hill!
Anyone! :vampire:
I posted a response to this on a question raised on the weekend fixtures thread. During his first spell with DFC (2013-2014) he said in an interview that the local way to pronounce his name in Galway was Hoo-ban (with the extra o), I think I heard he prefers Patrick also.
The Ger Canning ‘Dun – Dorrrk’ is excellent.
Some great other mis pronouncing names during the years, I recall Jeff Stelling giving a French accent to ‘Ric - ccchard Sad—lieeer’ when he scored for Millwall once. Kerry Mayo was another brilliant name, a lower league striker around mid 90’s in England.
sbgawa
12/03/2018, 12:50 PM
Bohemians. --- Bohs, gypos
Cork - langers
Drogheda - minnows, Shelbyville
Shamrock Rovers - rovers, scum, junkies,
Can I object to you calling us junkies, that's strictly a Pats thing, :)
jinxy lilywhite
12/03/2018, 1:14 PM
Can I object to you calling us junkies, that's strictly a Pats thing, :)
You're all junkies :p
bohsmug
12/03/2018, 2:04 PM
James McLean is another one, and presumably his brother.
The Ger Canning ‘Dun – Dorrrk’ is excellent.
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I always heard that more as Dan dork.
CrowdedHouse
12/03/2018, 4:34 PM
Some years ago I worked with a fella from down Laois way and his surname was Hooban.
nigel-harps1954
12/03/2018, 5:49 PM
I hate when people don't pronounce a surname the same way I do...
In fairness, it's all about where you're from too. When living in Carlow, I had to get used to Walsh being pronounced 'Welsh' and Behan being pronounced 'Bay-an'. Thankfully, I had sense to move back to Donegal where things are pronounced properly.
Duggie
12/03/2018, 6:25 PM
Huban sounds so annoying. Its Hoban or bust.
pineapple stu
12/03/2018, 6:28 PM
Thankfully, I had sense to move back to Donegal where things are pronounced properly.
Tee hee - Packie Boner.
Welsh is very technically correct as the Irish for it is Breathnach - or a person from Wales (or thereabouts).
I remember Derek Caw-lan playing for Cork years ago; George Hamilton pointed out that it wasn't ****-lan in Cork. Similarly, I got quare looks working in Wexford for pronouncing "Devereux" as Dev-row, when it's Devrix down there.
Longfordian
12/03/2018, 7:21 PM
Never knew that about ‘Devrix’. I’d heard of the others.
Scrufil
12/03/2018, 9:39 PM
As it is Seachtain na Gaeilge here is the original way the name Hoban was in Irish: (From the Surname Date Base website) Recorded as Hoban, Hooban, Howbane, and Hubane, this is an Irish surname, It derives from the pre 10th century Gaelic O' hUbain.
Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Hooban#ixzz59Zp9p2GD
bohsmug
13/03/2018, 12:35 PM
Not that it's the most pressing of sporting matters but if your family insists on a word being pronounced a certain way, why don't they just spell it correctly?
CorribsideSteve
13/03/2018, 12:56 PM
Not that it's the most pressing of sporting matters but if your family insists on a word being pronounced a certain way, why don't they just spell it correctly?
Exactly. Stick an extra O in there if you want people to pronounce it as Hooban. otherwise, it comes across as kind of snobby and elitist; " It's ACTUALLY hooban, old chap". Harry Kane is Harry Kane, not Harry Keane, for example.
Was Mick Doohan ever pronounced as Mick Doehan, out of curiosity?
By the way, he can, of course, call himself whatever he likes, and it takes nothing away from how good a player he is. Just seems odd that there's such a precise way of pronouncing it that goes against how it spells, completely.
Ezeikial
13/03/2018, 1:03 PM
Exactly. Stick an extra O in there if you want people to pronounce it as Hooban. otherwise, it comes across as kind of snobby and elitist; " It's ACTUALLY hooban, old chap". Harry Kane is Harry Kane, not Harry Keane, for example.
Was Mick Doohan ever pronounced as Mick Doehan, out of curiosity?
By the way, he can, of course, call himself whatever he likes, and it takes nothing away from how good a player he is. Just seems odd that there's such a precise way of pronouncing it that goes against how it spells, completely.
Iarfhlaith O'Shaughnessy would be in big trouble with you
bluemovie
13/03/2018, 1:37 PM
Patrick Hoban is quite fussy with his name.
He doesn't like being called Pat either. Its either Patrick or Pa.
Pat Hoe-ban it is then ;)
Philosophizer
13/03/2018, 1:42 PM
Just seems odd that there's such a precise way of pronouncing it that goes against how it spells, completely.
English isn't a phonetic language so there will always be tonnes of words that are pronounced different to their spelling.
Seems pretty extraordinary that it's being suggested that a person should change the spelling of his name to match the pronunciation. Guess I better change my given name to Shaun. I'll let Pawrick know the new orthodoxly
CorribsideSteve
13/03/2018, 5:02 PM
It's been suggested, but not demanded. Valid points raised that English is not very phonetical, the British for example always tend to read the surname Moran as Mow-Ran. Yes, I surmised it as sounding a bit snobbish how he wishes to pronounce it, but not that the player himself was. But it was just an observation and not a slur on the man's good character.
pineapple stu
13/03/2018, 5:49 PM
It's likely to do with changing pronunciation over time.
It only looks like it's spelled wrong now, but that's because how we pronounce a single "o" in that context has changed.
Are his descendants to change the spelling every time accents evolve?
The Donie Forde
13/03/2018, 5:55 PM
Gavan Holohan: pronounces his surname as Hoolahan.
Nobody got their knickers on backwards over that. What's so astonishing about saying Hooban as the Dundork striker's name?
outspoken
13/03/2018, 7:46 PM
Strangest one I’ve come across is how Dundalk people pronounce Mathews they say Matt-it-is
Sligo people have a weird thing where they put an s onto people's surnames.
Example:
Liam Martins
Joe Kendricks (maybe Jimi Hendrix influenced)
Achille Campions
Pascal Milliens
Ive actually heard people say Dennis Bergkamps as well.
Ezeikial
13/03/2018, 9:44 PM
Strangest one I’ve come across is how Dundalk people pronounce Mathews they say Matt-it-is
I know a chap called Matthew Matthews.
He has no friends
thebronze14
13/03/2018, 11:54 PM
I hate when people don't pronounce a surname the same way I do...
In fairness, it's all about where you're from too. When living in Carlow, I had to get used to Walsh being pronounced 'Welsh' and Behan being pronounced 'Bay-an'. Thankfully, I had sense to move back to Donegal where things are pronounced properly.
Surely you mean Carla?
Longfordian
14/03/2018, 8:13 PM
I know a chap called Matthew Matthews.
He has no friends
There is or was a chap in County Longford named Cormac McCormack.
oriel
14/03/2018, 10:16 PM
Strangest one I’ve come across is how Dundalk people pronounce Mathews they say Matt-it-is
That's quality and you are spot on. The daily coach service operator from Dundalk to Dublin 'Matthews Coaches' a lot do call it 'Matt-it-is-ssss' (a good few additional s's)
I once heard a rte late night sports report calling the German international Lothar Matthias 'Luther Matt-it-isssss'
outspoken
15/03/2018, 5:08 AM
That's quality and you are spot on. The daily coach service operator from Dundalk to Dublin 'Matthews Coaches' a lot do call it 'Matt-it-is-ssss' (a good few additional s's)
I once heard a rte late night sports report calling the German international Lothar Matthias 'Luther Matt-it-isssss'
Haha yeah myself and the missus got it the last day up to Dublin and that’s where I picked up on it. Strange people 😂😂
Nesta99
15/03/2018, 10:23 AM
Hoey or Hoee, maybe Hoee is just Dublin but in Dundalk is said like Hoy(hoi).
CorribsideSteve
15/03/2018, 1:09 PM
I've heard the great Spanish striker Raul be pronounced as Roy-ool by Trevor Welsh before, he also pronounced Sami Hyypia as Hoopy-yay ( correctly pronounced as Hype-Yeah), so certainly commentators can badly butcher a player's surname, that's partly why I thought who-bun was a strange way to pronounce his name. Good luck to him, may he score many important goals this season.
thebronze14
15/03/2018, 11:16 PM
Meelan and Milan is another one that seems interchangeable
sulywaterfordfc
16/03/2018, 9:03 AM
James McLean is another one, and presumably his brother.
Don’t they both publicly spell it as McClean? Only people I see spelling it differently is people online
Straightstory
16/03/2018, 9:14 AM
There is or was a chap in County Longford named Cormac McCormack.
Ex Drogheda player from the 1980s: Fergus Ferguson
WoodquayBoy
17/03/2018, 12:33 AM
Hoo-cares, he’s banging in the goals for his side since he came back from England, 90th minute winner tonight. Move on.
A couple of the local reporters who cover Waterford games pronounce Kavanagh as 'Kavanya'. I've never heard anyone else say it this way either in Waterford or elsewhere.
Johnny McDonneĺl on Soccer Republic thought Hoban got the winner the other night but as shown on tv it was clear that it was an own goal from Gary Comerford.
ToberonaTornado
20/03/2018, 6:39 AM
shushssshhhh!!! ;)
be grand when you stop worrying about what Johnny......
HarpoJoyce
20/03/2018, 6:10 PM
In the West of Ireland Staunton is pronounced STAN-ton. I presume that was where Steve Staunton got his nickname from.
Puig is a famous name associated with Sligo Rovers. I think it's pronounced PEW but I would have pronounced it phonetically when I first came across it Poo-ig.
In 1980s and 1990s Mo-RAN and M'Gra-TH were common pronunciations in Sports studios. Because it was a local pronunciation of a familiar spelling. (it wasn't MACGra-TH, that would be incorrect).
The Dutch 'G' still catches me out. Regarding personal pronunciations, Gabriel Heinze and all the Heinzes from Argentina would have to be asked how they personally pronounce their name. With or without the 'H' sound.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
21/03/2018, 6:37 AM
In the West of Ireland Staunton is pronounced STAN-ton. I presume that was where Steve Staunton got his nickname from.
Puig is a famous name associated with Sligo Rovers. I think it's pronounced PEW but I would have pronounced it phonetically when I first came across it Poo-ig.
In 1980s and 1990s Mo-RAN and M'Gra-TH were common pronunciations in Sports studios. Because it was a local pronunciation of a familiar spelling. (it wasn't MACGra-TH, that would be incorrect).
The Dutch 'G' still catches me out. Regarding personal pronunciations, Gabriel Heinze and all the Heinzes from Argentina would have to be asked how they personally pronounce their name. With or without the 'H' sound.
I presume you mean Pugh
blueblood
21/03/2018, 8:08 AM
Our ex striker Rodrigo Tosi said it's pronounced Hodrigo, surely he's wrong 😁😁😁
HarpoJoyce
21/03/2018, 1:36 PM
I presume you mean Pugh
Yes, Pugh. Thanks for clarifying (phew!)
...which is a perfect segway to what I'm always reminded of when these things pop up on here.
Back in the 90s Sligo had a lad called Lee Thew who on different occasions was credited with goals on Aertel as both Phew and Chew.
Scores were phoned in back in those days, presumably on these two occasions by someone with a strong southern English and a thick Waterford accent!
nr637
23/03/2018, 10:53 AM
...which is a perfect segway to what I'm always reminded of when these things pop up on here.
Back in the 90s Sligo had a lad called Lee Thew who on different occasions was credited with goals on Aertel as both Phew and Chew.
Scores were phoned in back in those days, presumably on these two occasions by someone with a strong southern English and a thick Waterford accent!
PHEW!
:wilt:
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