Cork AUL Divisions 1,2 & 3 2017/18

[the 12 th man]

any referees on here that could PM me please? I have some questions about referees/decisions etc

https://foot.ie/threads/38755-Advice-on-the-Laws-of-the-Game

[JaketheSnake]

Excellent idea gaffer. Can’t see it happening tho to be honest. But obviously the weather in this country isn’t kind as we all know and it’s been this way for years. But with mayfield utd and mayfield community & blarney etc all having astro pitches the aul could sort some deal with those in charge to get some games going.. or indeed summer football is also an option but again unlikely ..
what’s yer thoughts lads ??

Summer football the way to go . The AUL don't have the money to buy land and build an Astro.

[fruice]

Money shouldn't be an issue here grants readily available and with some FAI backing.
Rural Gaa clubs can build an Astro on there own
Once up and running it would easyily pay for itself.
The biggest problem would be location as it should be accessible to all but it would require a site that would facilitate expansion to further sand based pitches make it are real home for amateur soccer in cork.

Early days there would be a lot of work but if planned properly could be be beneficial for years to come.

[JaketheSnake]

Money shouldn't be an issue here grants readily available and with some FAI backing.
Rural Gaa clubs can build an Astro on there own
Once up and running it would easyily pay for itself.
The biggest problem would be location as it should be accessible to all but it would require a site that would facilitate expansion to further sand based pitches make it are real home for amateur soccer in cork.

Early days there would be a lot of work but if planned properly could be be beneficial for years to come.

Yes but the FAI would have to fund this not the AUL . Isnt this being done or planned somewhere near Glanmire/Carrigtwohill?

[fruice]

I would think it would be funded by the FAI and run by the AUL if it was to ever happen.
Also funding would come via the sports capital grant

I've never heard of the project you mentioned for east cork who is this supposed to for?

[#Gaffer]

Ya Jake is right there's land bought down glanmire remember it being on the echo but i think it's fai alright and cork city are involved as well surely the Aul will have to be involved with it as well as of summer football will never happen as the country clubs will never vote for it as it would definitely put there existence in jeopardy due to the GAA

[JaketheSnake]

Ya Jake is right there's land bought down glanmire remember it being on the echo but i think it's fai alright and cork city are involved as well surely the Aul will have to be involved with it as well as of summer football will never happen as the country clubs will never vote for it as it would definitely put there existence in jeopardy due to the GAA

There are more city teams than country teams in the AUL now? So maybe they would be outvoted?

[fruice]

Ithink the city/ Country team spilt is about 50/50.
I don't feel the impact would be as big with the gaa as before .
the gaa season runs nearly 9 months for any reasonably successful team.
The months of June and July are very quiet for gaa players due to inter county players.
If they really felt gaa championship would impact there is surely away around it.
Allow the moving of a game to a few days after long evenings could facilitate this.

The move to summer would also shorten the AUL season as there would be no 10 week break due to bad weather,longer evenings allowing more opportunities to play games.

It's happening at school boy level in the next two years this will be a good bench mark as to how easy the transition could be.

[JaketheSnake]

Ithink the city/ Country team spilt is about 50/50.
I don't feel the impact would be as big with the gaa as before .
the gaa season runs nearly 9 months for any reasonably successful team.
The months of June and July are very quiet for gaa players due to inter county players.
If they really felt gaa championship would impact there is surely away around it.
Allow the moving of a game to a few days after long evenings could facilitate this.

The move to summer would also shorten the AUL season as there would be no 10 week break due to bad weather,longer evenings allowing more opportunities to play games.

It's happening at school boy level in the next two years this will be a good bench mark as to how easy the transition could be.

You are right it is almost a 50/50 split just had a quick look at the tables. Must admit that surprised me .

[scubasteve]

Anybody know is the Corinthians cup going ahead this year

[#Gaffer]

Haven't heard anything a bit strange no draw has been made yet for it
Big result last night in the city challenge the winners of it last year knocked out by grattan B 4-1 out there great result for them

[scubasteve]

Yeah usually it's drawn by now would be a pity if it wasn't played at all

[JaketheSnake]

Yeah usually it's drawn by now would be a pity if it wasn't played at all

Massive backlog of games. It will probably be scrapped. Its a losers cup anyway isn't it? If you get knocked out of AOH in the first round you play in or get knocked out of your division cup in the first round you play in you get entered in this if you are in Div1,2 or 3?

[#Gaffer]

The competition is for teams who get knocked out early alright but it's a great incentive for them clubs or a mid table team in there league who probably don't have anything else to play for I'm sure the teams who have won it were well delighted with the so called losers Cup and the trip to Turners Cross in my opinion it will be a disgrace if its scrapped due to backlog of fixtures clubs pay there entry fees to the Aul to be entered into the competitions tht there entitled to but this is the aul were talking about

[JaketheSnake]

The competition is for teams who get knocked out early alright but it's a great incentive for them clubs or a mid table team in there league who probably don't have anything else to play for I'm sure the teams who have won it were well delighted with the so called losers Cup and the trip to Turners Cross in my opinion it will be a disgrace if its scrapped due to backlog of fixtures clubs pay there entry fees to the Aul to be entered into the competitions tht there entitled to but this is the aul were talking about If a team is midtable but didn't get knocked out early from AOH or their own division cup they don't get entered in this Loser cup. Of all the cups its the one that should be scrapped to save on games .

[Xmas3Formation]

Corinthians cup has been around for years any decision to scrap it should only be made at an agm not reactionary to the same weather issue that appears every season. It's a huge incentive for smaller club's. Without these clubs our league might as well be scrapped considering the drop in team numbers in recent years.

[JaketheSnake]

Corinthians cup has been around for years any decision to scrap it should only be made at an agm not reactionary to the same weather issue that appears every season. It's a huge incentive for smaller club's. Without these clubs our league might as well be scrapped considering the drop in team numbers in recent years.

Each club in the first division gets entered in the AOH, City challenge or County Cup and their own division cup. They can also choose whether or not to enter the FAI or MJC. I am sure if the Corinthians cup got scrapped for this season it wouldn't kill them.

It will probably be played anyway .

[scubasteve]

Calling it a Losers cup is a bit short sighted I think. Within the AUL after the AOH cup it has the largest amount of teams in it so makes it's much harder to win than even some of the divisional cup .

[JaketheSnake]

Calling it a Losers cup is a bit short sighted I think. Within the AUL after the AOH cup it has the largest amount of teams in it so makes it's much harder to win than even some of the divisional cup .

It is the only cup in the AUL that you qualify for by LOSING . It is a loser cup you can think what you want

[Bulldog]

It is the only cup in the AUL that you qualify for by LOSING . It is a loser cup you can think what you wanta cup is a cup ..win win win it matters if your in it
.

[JaketheSnake]

a cup is a cup ..win win win it matters if your in it
.

Except you have to lose lose lose to get in it . Its a loser cup for loser teams

[#Gaffer]

Great competition around for years its sure to go ahead I'd say as the massive backlog is more for premier teams playing in munster junior cup and fai Cup so won't matter to them as they won't be in it I don't know about anyone else but I'd love to win it as bulldog said a cup is a cup nó matter wht ya want to call it

[Bulldog]

Except you have to lose lose lose to get in it . Its a loser cup for loser teamsfact you lose to get in ..fact your a winner if you take it out bud so its a win win situation and then maybe you can build on that sucsess the following season .

[JaketheSnake]

fact you lose to get in ..fact your a winner if you take it out bud so its a win win situation and then maybe you can build on that sucsess the following season .

Think what you want . There is no pride in winning that competition if you ask me .

[Xmas3Formation]

Jake the snake you have a problem with everything you should really seek anger management :) Losers Cup if you don`t like the cup then don`t be involved in it. fact is it`s a cup traditionally played in the Cork AUL season get over it.

[Xmas3Formation]

Alternatively put forward a motion at the next AGM for it to be scrapped. If you are involved enough to be there that is. if not pass on your grievances regarding this to your club representative and he can raise this issue

[Bulldog]

Think what you want . There is no pride in winning that competition if you ask me .
Tell this I take pride in winning a chalange match but then that’s just me.

[JaketheSnake]

Jake the snake you have a problem with everything you should really seek anger management :) Losers Cup if you don`t like the cup then don`t be involved in it. fact is it`s a cup traditionally played in the Cork AUL season get over it.

if you don't like my opinion click ignore! I am not involved in the Corinthians cup . I don't play lower league AUL so I never play in the Loser Cup . If you don't like my opinion you should as you put it yourself ..... get over it. I am entitled to my opinion and you are to yours

[Xmas3Formation]

so you have no interest at all in the cup bar belittling it??
I take it you play premier league AUL so??? i do believe there is a seperate forum for that which should involve very little mention of the corinthians cup.
The worst standard of premier league standard in recent history?
So bad they haven`t even bothered with a representative side?
keep up the good work

[JaketheSnake]

so you have no interest at all in the cup bar belittling it??
I take it you play premier league AUL so??? i do believe there is a seperate forum for that which should involve very little mention of the corinthians cup.
The worst standard of premier league standard in recent history?
So bad they haven`t even bothered with a representative side?
keep up the good work

You do know that it is a lack of interest from players and the fact the AUL are too tight to pay for anything that has caused there to be no Oscar Traynor team?? Also players of the high quality that end up playing in the Corinthians Loser Cup are also eligible to play for the Oscar traynor side ;)

Feel free to assume that I play AUL or MSL or whatever you want . Feel free to do a better job at guessing than iceman did

[#Gaffer]

CORINTHIANS CUP 1ST ROUND DRAW

Bweeing Celtic v Fairview

Ballinhassig v Cloughduv Celtic

Watergrasshill Utd v Southcoast Ath

Carrigtwohill Utd B v Ard-na-Laoi

Greenwood B v Cathedral Celtic

Leeview Ath B v Springfield

Waterloo v Richmond

Grangevale v Innishvilla B

Knocknaheeny Celtic B v Glenthorn Celtic B

All other teams Bye to 2nd round.

[Xmas3Formation]

Anyone know who the teams who`ve gotten a bye are? i presume there is 7 of them?
Do you get into another cup if you lose this round ???? (just for Jake the Snake ;) )

[JaketheSnake]

Anyone know who the teams who`ve gotten a bye are? i presume there is 7 of them?
Do you get into another cup if you lose this round ???? (just for Jake the Snake ;) )

No when you lose in the first round of this that's it (unless you are still in another cup) There is no Loser-Loser cup:eek:

[#Gaffer]

Here is my understanding of who got a bye into the second round as they either lost in the first round or got a bye and lost in the second round of there own cup
Castleview / Grattan B / Strand / Greenmount / Temple / Blackstone Rovers / UCC A /

[Bulldog]

Here is my understanding of who got a bye into the second round as they either lost in the first round or got a bye and lost in the second round of there own cup
Castleview / Grattan B / Strand / Greenmount / Temple / Blackstone Rovers / UCC A /massive backlog of games id say .

[JaketheSnake]

massive backlog of games id say .

Which is why there was no need to play the Corinthians cup . All the AUL is doing is adding more games to an already mental schedule :)

[#Gaffer]

Why not scrap the mossy from next year or play it as as knockout competition at the end of the season maybe the Premier and Premier A leagues might not be so backed up then start the season with league games

[JaketheSnake]

Why not scrap the mossy from next year or play it as as knockout competition at the end of the season maybe the Premier and Premier A leagues might not be so backed up then start the season with league games

Well seeing as the Mossie Linnane is a league cup like the St Michaels cup , Saxone Cup and Presidents Cup I think if you are going to scrap one then maybe scrap them all . If not then definitely a good idea to play the Mossie as a straight knock out like the others and start it at the same time as the rest of those cups

[scubasteve]

Cloughduv FC*are looking for a friendly at home next Saturday, 24th March at 2pm.
Please contact Steve @ 087 9765944

[injurytime]

Was talking to A player today at A game and he informed me that its Real shame to see A Club in the Aul having to Fold B team because of lack of numbers for the A team some big questions need to be answered by the Clubs comitee but who is to blame is it the B team Manager or A team manager

[#Gaffer]

Would love to know who you're talking about not much A games on around so thinking ur talking about Grattan?

[fruice]

It always amazes me how clubs with no underage structure can have an A and B team to support this you need at least 40 players and ideally closer to 50.Thats some amount of players you effectively have to attract off the street.

In some instances by having a B team you weaken the A and as a result the club competes at a lower level overall.

[Xmas3Formation]

i would guess it`s Knockraha ???
Grattan B won`t be folding anyway.
They are doing a great job this season
and Grattan A have a nucleus of about 16
so would only need to borrow a player or two at most
at any given time.
Knockraha B bottom of the 3rd division Knockraha A 2nd last in div 1
Knockraha A should stay up ahead of UCC if they don`t fold.
Knockraha B can always rejoin where they left off in Div 3 at any point.

[JaketheSnake]

Was talking to A player today at A game and he informed me that its Real shame to see A Club in the Aul having to Fold B team because of lack of numbers for the A team some big questions need to be answered by the Clubs comitee but who is to blame is it the B team Manager or A team manager


Riddle me this .... riddle me that........... Why not say who it is?

[injurytime]

I believe Grattan have been if not will be thrown out of the AOH for fielding an illegal player in recent game.. the player in question played in same competition against tower...

[Bulldog]

I believe Grattan have been if not will be thrown out of the AOH for fielding an illegal player in recent game.. the player in question played in same competition against tower...are you sure it was tower Ian ...your old club .

[#Gaffer]

Not nice to hear about Hillington pulling out of the league tonight a club 50 years old loyalty gone in football hard to get good club men these days

[Xmas3Formation]

Is it confirmed that Hillington have folded?
I was under the impression they wanted to keep it together this year to reach their anniversary celebrations
then reconsider the future.
Either way it`s been some fall for the club in the last 15 years
from competing both in AUL Premier & AUL 2
to struggling to field a team at the bottom of Division 3.

[Xmas3Formation]

How many other clubs are looking dodgy for next season i would wonder

[scubasteve]

Not nice to hear about Hillington pulling out of the league tonight a club 50 years old loyalty gone in football hard to get good club men these days

Sad to hear if it is true about Hillington, but they aren't the first club this season and probably wont be the last unfortunately. With the back log of fixtures now a lot of teams are going to struggle to field teams towards the end of the season if they haven't much to play for accept pride, especially with the GAA started up. Your right it is getting harder and harder to find fellas who are dedicated enough to stick it out through thick and thin with clubs, loads have opinions on how things should be done and what fellas should do but in the end when push comes to shove and they are asked to get involved they run for the hills.