Limerick Desmond League 2017/18

[Langerdan007]

Better still is fixing games on pitches that are known at the time to resemble lakes more than pitches and not calling the game off till the night before!!!

[CraftyToePoke]

I don't have access to the weekly observer where I'm living. Could anyone post the fixtures up here? I'm not around often for games but would like to get at least one in this weekend



Even of you had access to it, it might not do you any good, last time I was around I picked out a DL game to go and see from the Observer and got to the ground (Broadford) and was the only person there. Can't remember who they were meant to be playing or where it was moved to but, the paper was wrong anyway.

[Johnnie C]

Munster Youths Cup Quarter Final
Douglas Hall 3-0 Broadford United

[Shoot]

I don't think you can call the league a disgrace because the fixtures where late going up on the website. I think the blame is on the schoolboys league because there is so many underage teams now and not every club has two pitches. The fixture secretary for the juniors has to wait and get the fixtures for the schoolboys before he can decide what pitches would be available on the Sunday with the weather etc.. and now that there is a ladies league the same applies. I could be wrong but i don't remember fixtures not going up on the web site before they are in The Observer before, and for players not knowing if they have a game on Sunday or not - bull **** they know matches are on Sundays so what is wrong with waiting for The Observer on a Wednesday after all there wasn't always the internet

[western gale 1]

Youths Rsults

Munster Youths Cup Quarter Final
Douglas Hall 3 Broadford Utd 0

Youths Division 1
Newcastle West Town 3 Askeaton 1
GB Rovers 1 Abbeyfeale Utd 3

Youths Division 2
Pallaskenry 3 Granagh Utd 1
Ballingarry 4 Mountcollins 1
Ferry Rangers V Shountrade, walkover to Ferry Rangers

[western gale 1]

Junior Results

Sunday, February 4th

Premier Division
Abbeyfeale Utd 2 Carrig Celtic 1
Broadford Utd 3 Granagh Utd 1
Glin Rovers 0 Rathkeale 0
Newcastle West Rovers 7 Athea Utd 1

Division 1
Adare Utd V Ballysteen ???
Killeaney 2 Glantine 1
Kildimo Utd 3 AK Utd 3
Newcastle West 6 Abbeyfeale Utd B 1

Division 2
Ferry Rangers V Shountrade ????
Knockaderry 2 Glin Rovers B 0
Rathkeale B 4 Askeaton 2

Division 3
Ballingarry B V Carrig Celtic B, walkover to Ballingarry B
Glantine B 0 Creeves Celtic 5

[Langerdan007]

Ballysteen won 3-0 and Shountrade won 2-1 - The Twitter account is pretty good for putting the results up on Sunday evening https://twitter.com/LgDesmond

In fairness the fixtures are usually up here: http://ldfl.leaguerepublic.com/l/league/6093030.html on a Monday - although I accept that things could change by the time the Observer comes out but in general its pretty accurate

Shoot I dont think the problem is lads knowing if they've a game on a Sunday, everyone knows they'll have a game fixed but if a pitch has no chance of being playable on a Thursday is there anything wrong with calling that early rather than having everyone hanging around all day for a half 2 KO and then the ref to call it off - lads have plenty other things to be at

I like the suggestion of publishing fixtures two weeks at a time - as you say the only extra work is in the initial two week set, after that its the same process

[fanaticfan]

Some result for Newcastle Rovers besting Athea 7-1 And heard it was blown up early too.good result for Glin drawing at home to Rathkeale. Any of carrig shannonside Athea or granagh to go down so far. Looks like Killeaney and Newcastle West to go back up to the premier division. Killeaney winning 2-1 and Newcastle beating Abbey B 6-1.

Any standing out player so far in each division lads?

[last man back]

Yes 2 weeks notice is a great idea. But can you imagine if fixtures were up 2 weeks in advance clubs would haunt him to get fixtures changed .

[Langerdan007]

Fanatic - AFC flying - If the Newcastle clubs merge next year as speculated and AFC have finished in the top 2 what happens re: Promotion? 3rd go up?

:D he'd have to switch off his phone the first couple weeks!

[sportsfanatic]

Fanatic - AFC flying - If the Newcastle clubs merge next year as speculated and AFC have finished in the top 2 what happens re: Promotion? 3rd go up?

:D he'd have to switch off his phone the first couple weeks!

Yeah I’d say so, 3rd place goes up? Is it still happening I wonder?

Yeah fixtures secretary would be flat out answering calls for 2 weeks. Maybe that’s why they don’t go up on website until Monday. Can’t blame him really he has a life too

[CraftyToePoke]

Is it still happening I wonder?

I thought it was all but done. I wonder where the home games would be ? Be a shame to lose Ballygowan with its LOI history etc, lovely place to watch a match too.

[western gale 1]

Blanket cancellation again today

[Shearer]

I thought it was all but done. I wonder where the home games would be ? Be a shame to lose Ballygowan with its LOI history etc, lovely place to watch a match too.
I'd imagine if they were to have Junior games anywhere then it would be the Demesne.

Just found out that the Desmond Youths gave a walkover to Waterford on Saturday.

[western gale 1]

Saturday, February 17th

Youths Division 1
Askeaton V Newcastle West Town 230 (E. Noonan)

Youths Division 2
Ballingarry V Pallaskenry 230 (JP Murphy)
Mountcollins V Ferry Rangers 230 (P. O’Donnell)



Sunday, February 18th

Desmond Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Abbeyfeale Utd B V Feenagh 230pm (J. Roche)
Glin Rovers V Pallaskenry 1130 (P. Manning)
AK Utd V Breska Rovers 1130 in Kilcornan (P. O’Connor)
Athea Utd B V Abbeyfeale Utd 1130 (P. O’Brien)
Ballingarry V Ferry Rangers 1130 (P. King)
Granagh Utd V Broadford Utd 1130 (E. Noonan)
Ballysteen V Newcastle West Rovers 230pm (L. O’Connor)
Carrig Celtic V Ballingarry B 1130 (S. Hartnett)
Killeaney V Knockaderry 230 (P. King)
Rathkeale B V Rathkeale 215pm (P. Manning)
St Itas V Glantine 1130 (E. Barrett)

Riedy Cup 2nd Round (et & pens)
Kildimo Utd V Glin Rovers B 230 (JP Murphy)

Division 2
Shountrade V Newcastle West Rovers B 230 (G. O’Connor)

Division 3
Glantine B V Broadford Utd Reserves 230 (P. O’Donnell)

[fanaticfan]

Why is there only 14 matches on this weekend when the league is miles behind in games. They should be putting on as many games every Sunday. The league should start playing league cup games every Friday night's in clounreask to try and get them out of the way so the season doesn't go on and on.

[Cruyff]

Playing Cup games in Clounreask makes sense, therefore it's not happening

[western gale 1]

Sunday, February 18th
Desmond Cup 1st Round
Abbeyfeale Utd B 1 Feenagh 2 (in Feenagh)
Glin Rovers 2 Pallaskenry 1
AK Utd 2 Breska Rovers 1
Athea Utd B 0 Abbeyfeale Utd 4
Ballingarry v Ferry Rangers, walkover to Ballingarry
Granagh Utd 1 Broadford Utd 4
Ballysteen 0 Newcastle West Rovers 5
Carrig Celtic 5 Ballingarry B 0
Killeaney 3 Knockaderry 2
Rathkeale B 0 Rathkeale A 3
St Itas v Glantine off

Riedy Cup 2nd Round
Kildimo Utd v Glin Rovers B off

Division 2
Shountrade 1 Newcastle West Rovers B 1 (in Woodfield)

Division 3
Glantine B 0 Broadford Utd Reserves 5

[last man back]

Back at the AGM in the summer it was suggested the last 4 league games of the season should be played at the same time in the interest of fairness. This was agreed by the clubs on the night, this could cause more delays to a season already badly affected by weather. Should the league scrap this rule for this season?

[sexyfootball]

If that amalgamation goes ahead why would junior games be in the Demesne? I'd reckon they'd alternate, the Desmesne needs a bit of an upgrade too re drainage so might give them a chance to complete works there while using Woodfield. It's all only ifs and buts at the moment anyway but I can't see them using one over the other - both will be kept & used.

In relation to the Desmond Youths, shame to see that happen or to give a walkover in any inter-league competition - you don't know what the reason was Shearer?

[Shearer]

If that amalgamation goes ahead why would junior games be in the Demesne? I'd reckon they'd alternate, the Desmesne needs a bit of an upgrade too re drainage so might give them a chance to complete works there while using Woodfield. It's all only ifs and buts at the moment anyway but I can't see them using one over the other - both will be kept & used.

In relation to the Desmond Youths, shame to see that happen or to give a walkover in any inter-league competition - you don't know what the reason was Shearer?
This is all just theoretical. I would imagine Woodfield would be used pre-dominantly for Schoolboys due to the two pitches. I'm sure both grounds will get their bit of Junior Soccer anyway.

In regard to the Desmond Youths I'm not actually sure but to the best of my knowledge they were out of the competition going into the Waterford game anyway while Waterford needed a win. Desmond Youths have been a joke the last few years sadly.

[Shoot]

I dont agree with league or any other cup games being played in Clounreask, why should teams give up home advantage when Clounreask would suit some teams more than others, clubs know if they get to any domestic final its played in Clounreask, and they have had their fair chance in the draws in the previous rounds to be home or away

[sexyfootball]

This is all just theoretical. I would imagine Woodfield would be used pre-dominantly for Schoolboys due to the two pitches. I'm sure both grounds will get their bit of Junior Soccer anyway.

In regard to the Desmond Youths I'm not actually sure but to the best of my knowledge they were out of the competition going into the Waterford game anyway while Waterford needed a win. Desmond Youths have been a joke the last few years sadly.

Thanks for that Shearer.
There have been a few Desmond under age teams doing very well in the Kennedy cup in recent seasons (some of them must be 16-17 now?) have they moved from the league into 'town'? or are they just not involved anymore?

[Cruyff]

The best from the Kennedy Cup teams progress onto U15/17/19 League of Ireland with either Limerick FC or Kerry now.
The Desmond League is most likely switching to calendar season football after this season so I'd imagine the best lads of what's left will more than likely stay playing in the better weather.
The bad weather/lack of games tended to drive a lot to play GAA/Rugby instead of football after Kennedy Cup.
Hopefully that will change now...

[western gale 1]

Saturday, February 24th

Limerick Desmond Youths Cup 1st Round
Newcastle West Town 7 Kilcolman Rovers 1

Youths Division 1
Askeaton 2 Broadford Utd 3

Youths Division 2
Ballingarry 4 Pallaskenry 0
Mountcollins 3 Ferry Rangers 1

Sunday, February 25th

Desmond Cup 1st Round
Adare Utd V Shannonside (Adare on pens)
Athea Utd 4 Bally Rovers 2
Broadford Utd Reserves 1 Askeaton 1 (game abandoned on 20 mins)
Carrig Celtic B 3 Glantine B 1
Creeves Celtic 4 Shountrade 2
Glantine 2 St Itas 0
Glin Rovers B 1 Newcastle West 4
Kildimo Utd 1 Newcastle West Rovers B 3

Premier Division
Abbeyfeale Utd 3 Granagh Utd 1
Carrig Celtic 1 Rathkeale 5
Newcastle West Rovers 0 Glin Rovers 1
Ballingarry 1 Broadford Utd 3

Division 1
Ballysteen 3 Breska Rovers 2
Killeaney 2 Feenagh 0
AK Utd 3 Abbeyfeale Utd B 0

Division 2
Ferry Rangers 0 Rathkeale B 1

[robotwarsfan]

Broadford Utd Reserves 1 Askeaton 1 (game abandoned on 20 mins)
i saw on Broadfords Page on Facebook they got a walkover for the Askeaton Game? Homecome it says abandoned here?

[southern kid]

I believe the game started but askeaton only had 8 players. Lost 2 after 20 mins so referee had no choice but to call off..

[robotwarsfan]

fair enough thanks, just seemed strange seeing two different events

[Shearer]

Here's a stat for you:
After 9 league games, Glin Rovers have 15 points on the board at present.
Last season, Glin Rovers finished the 18 game league season with 18 points.

Fair going from Glin and a great result today, although I think Rovers might have thrown in the towel already, not to take anything away from Glin.


I dont agree with league or any other cup games being played in Clounreask, why should teams give up home advantage when Clounreask would suit some teams more than others, clubs know if they get to any domestic final its played in Clounreask, and they have had their fair chance in the draws in the previous rounds to be home or away
They're playing League Cup games inside in Jackman Park every Wednesday without fail, I don't see why we shouldn't do the same especially with Clounreask being ten times the surface that Jackman is. Along with the fact that clubs have paid money for a grounds that they might not ever play in.

In regard to Clounreask suiting some teams more than others, having league cup games would expose the bad teams early on in the competition and get rid of them. It's not the Desmond League's fault if you can't ball.

[Abbeyman]

I believe the game started but askeaton only had 8 players. Lost 2 after 20 mins so referee had no choice but to call off..
Sad to see Askeaton adult team in the state it's in ,Shame as it was always a top club and their team of the 80s and 90s were as good as any team that came out of the Desmond league .

[fanaticfan]

Hardly be matches on the weekend

[Cruyff]

NCW Rovers voted in favor of merging with NCW AFC at a meeting last night.
NCW Town from next season on

[fanaticfan]

So Rovers in the Premier and Afc more than likely getting promoted. Will they have a strong team next season? Will Seoirse Joyce and Tony Quaid go back to them from ballingarry next season? What does that mean with who goes down and comes up?

[last man back]

I suppose like every season fanatic the league committee will decide the divisions when they see what teams are entered at the beginning of the season. There was a lot of speculation Killeaney wouldn't have a team this year so it could be another team next year. As regards the 2 boys I suppose it will be up to whoever is in charge if they'd want them back, they didn't show much loyalty this season

[Cruyff]

I would be willing to say it's unlikely that they would be welcomed, especially Joyce, Rovers very upset with him.
Tony maybe

[fanaticfan]

Why would Rovers be upset with Joyce? Did he do something? They prob won't go back now cos they will be looking for money from clubs now they are getting cash with ballingarry.

[Cruyff]

Let's just say that when he needed help in the past, the club were there for him.

[Gazza29]

Why would Rovers be upset with Joyce? Did he do something? They prob won't go back now cos they will be looking for money from clubs now they are getting cash with ballingarry.

Ballingarry the real victims, paying 2 subs to stand on the line. I’m sure they have learned their lesson

[western gale 1]

Saturday, March 10th

Desmond Youths Cup 1st Round
Askeaton 2 Abbeyfeale Utd 6

Desmond Youths Cup Q/F
GB Rovers 1 Pallaskenry 4
Newcastle West Town v Mountcollins off

Youths Division 2
Ballingarry 6 Granagh Utd 0

Sunday, March 11th

Desmond Cup 2nd Round
Glantine A 1 Creeves Celtic 3
Feenagh 3 Athea Utd A 0

Desmond Cup 3rd Round
Newcastle West Rovers A 7 Broadford Utd Reserves 1
Newcastle West Rovers B 3 Carrig Celtic B 1
Broadford Utd A 1 Carrig Celtic A 3
Newcastle West 1 Glin Rovers A 2 aet
Rathkeale A 4 Adare Utd 0
Ballingarry A 2 AK Utd 3

Riedy Cup 2nd Round
Glin Rovers B 0 Kildimo Utd 3

Premier Division
Shannonside 1 Abbeyfeale Utd 5

Division 1
Ballysteen 5 Abbeyfeale Utd B 0
Killeaney v Breska Rovers off

Division 2
Askeaton 0 Pallaskenry 3
Shountrade 9 St Itas 0
Knockaderry 2 Rathkeale B 1

Division 3
Ballingarry B V Glantine B, w/o to Ballingarry B

[Shearer]

People are acting like Ballingarry are the first team around here to pay players.
Are they paying more than others? Probably, but don't think for a second that they're the only team doing so.

[sportsfanatic]

Yeah true have heard of players and clubs numerous times over the past couple of years getting a bit of coin. I’m sure Cruyffs comment above has something to do with rovers helping him out with cash over the years, maybe you could fill everyone in Fanaticfan seeing as you seem to know who’s getting paid what as you have mentioned it several times already in this forum this year?

Also an i right in saying that Abbey have played 7 of their 9 league games at home already. A good start is everything and they certainly have the best chance of a good start with that fixture list.

[sexyfootball]

Heard the amalgamation was passed alright - no more Newcastle West derbies...
Could possibly be 3 Newcastle West Town junior teams next season with their numbers!!
Re: payment to players don't see the need for it personally, if anything would it not undermine the current players at any club?

Surprise but well deserved wins for Carrig Celtic (v Broadford) & AK (v Ballingarry) in the Desmond Cup, wheels seem to be coming loose on the Ballingarry season; losing to 10 man Broadford in the league and knocked out of the Desmond Cup.
Abbeyfeale looking good at the top of the premier too; looks a case of by how much & not if they win the league.

[Shearer]

Heard the amalgamation was passed alright - no more Newcastle West derbies...
Could possibly be 3 Newcastle West Town junior teams next season with their numbers!!
Re: payment to players don't see the need for it personally, if anything would it not undermine the current players at any club?

Surprise but well deserved wins for Carrig Celtic (v Broadford) & AK (v Ballingarry) in the Desmond Cup, wheels seem to be coming loose on the Ballingarry season; losing to 10 man Broadford in the league and knocked out of the Desmond Cup.
Abbeyfeale looking good at the top of the premier too; looks a case of by how much & not if they win the league.
On the note of the wheels coming loose in Ballingarry, the same can be said for Broadford at this stage.
Out of the league, knocked out of the Munster Junior at home to a side that are no great shakes and going out of the competition that they're reigning champions of with a whimper.
They'll have a job on their hands if they're to win the League Cup having drawn Rathkeale away in the Quarter Final.

[last man back]

Is that draw available on line shearer ?

[Shearer]

Not yet I don't think, I just happened to have a photo from the Observer at the back of my phone.
https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2656&stc=1

[last man back]

Thanks. I must of missed it looks like it was drawn a few weeks ago

[Back_Of_The_Net]

Are there going to be a lot of doubling up of games when the clocks go forward or how are the Desmond League going to tackle the problem with the weather that's been going on for the last few months (earlyish December?) ? Don't think I've ever seen the weather affect a season so badly in the Desmond League.

[Shearer]

I think Friday games are coming back soon.

[Back_Of_The_Net]

Desmond Cup Quarter Finals Draw
Rathkeale AFC V Carrig Celtic
Killeaney or Feenagh V Creeves Celtic or Abbeyfeale Utd
Newcastle West Rovers v Glin Rovers
AK Utd V Newcastle West Rovers B

[Back_Of_The_Net]

Sunday 18th March
Weekly Observer Desmond Cup 3rd Round (extra time & penalties if required)
Creeves Celtic V Abbeyfeale Utd 1130 (P. Manning)
Killeaney V Feenagh 230 (G. O’Connor)
Weekly Observer Premier Division League Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties if required)
Athea Utd V Carrig Celtic 1130 (P. O’Brien)
Weekly Observer Premier Division League Cup Quarter Final (extra time & penalties if required)
Ballingarry AFC V Glin Rovers 1130 (E. Noonan)
Granagh Utd V Shannonside FC 1130 (P. King)
Weekly Observer Division 1 League Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties if required)
Abbeyfeale Utd B V Ballysteen AFC 2pm (S. Hartnett)
Breska Rovers V Adare Utd 230 (E. Noonan)
Richard Hogan Cup Quarter Final (extra time & penalties if required)
Glin Rovers B V Pallaskenry AFC 230 (P. King)
Weekly Observer Premier Division
Rathkeale AFC V Newcastle West Rovers 1130 (P. O’Connor)
Weekly Observer Division 1
AK Utd V Newcastle West AFC 230 (P. Manning)
Weekly Observer Division 2
Askeaton AFC V Ferry Rangers 230 (P. O’Connor)
Newcastle West Rovers B V Rathkeale B 230 (P. O’Donnell)
Shountrade AFC V Knockaderry AFC 1130 (J. Molyneaux)
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Monday 19th March
Limerick Desmond Youths Cup Quarter Final (extra time & penalties if required)
Ballingarry AFC V Broadford Utd 230 (P. O’Connor)

Youths Division 1
Askeaton AFC V AK Utd 230 (P. O’Brien)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Newcastle West Town 230 (P. King)

Youths Division 2
Granagh Utd V Ferry Rangers 230 (J. Molyneaux)
Mountcollins AFC V Kilcolman Rovers 230 (P. O’Donnell)

(http://ldfl.leaguerepublic.com/l/newsArticle/week_28_of_season_201718.html)