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Roo69
22/02/2005, 10:33 PM
After the 1-1 draw with Derry City tonight, Just heard it on UTV. Shocking stuff altogether, scum of the earth to anything like that no matter who or were the away fans are.

dcfcsteve
22/02/2005, 10:40 PM
Didn't see the UTV coverage.

BBC coverage showed everything in the ground as being very good nature. Derry fans clapped the 300 Linfield fans in as they took their seats.

They mentioned a bit of stone throwing as the buses left the ground, but in a way that suggested it was faily insignificant. Not acceptable, but probably just a couple of local kids acting the maggott....

OneRedArmy
22/02/2005, 10:59 PM
Just heard from someone at the game and there were fireworks fired into the ground at the Linfield fan by local youths from outside the perimeter, they also decided to bring along a tricolour with Glasgow Celtic FC insignia. Typical, they'll come along to have a go but they can't even be arsed to pay to come in........

Apparently the trouble was all outside the ground, which although it doesn't excuse it in any way, means it doesn't reflect badly on the club.

HOWEVER, well done to certain local politicians who no doubt contributed to this by stirring it up in advance of the game reflecting poorly on Derry in general :rolleyes:

A face
22/02/2005, 11:45 PM
well done to certain local politicians who no doubt contributed to this by stirring it up in advance of the game reflecting poorly on Derry in general :rolleyes:

And these are the same ones that call to your door looking for a vote ... they seriously have some cheek ... health, education, transport and all the other social issues get ignored. They get away with murder. Obviously i am far removed from it, but that is my take on it.

pete
23/02/2005, 12:02 AM
Seems Derry City football club have done they can but unfortunately media articles are more likely to highlight the trouble rather than where it came from.

Hopefully a lot can be learnt in time for the Setanta Cup. Looks like supporter buses will need a police escort to & from their grounds.

Trouble outside grounds says more about society than club supporters.

EireBadBoy
23/02/2005, 2:29 AM
As someone that apologised for bucket holding politican's speaking on my behalf I was gutted by the fact that (A) minutes silence was broken by someone 'outside the ground' (B)Firework's almost took out 4 Derry City ballboy's fired by someone 'outside the ground' and (C)We are now looked apon as the only club incapable of participating in the Setanta Cup, no doubt, thanks to Derry people 'outside the ground'!!
As EL fan's you will no doubt know THAT section of the ground were you are regularly situated beside the row of houses that have freeloaders watching in from over the wall, that's were all the ****e was. Firework's aimed into the ground, nearly hitting ballboy's. Booed by the Derry City fan's that were moved to the away end and chants of 'Wonka, wonka' ?? (you know what they really sang!) and then the game continued in a great atmosphere.

I caught the tail end of the UTV News report and a Linfield fan , admittedly one that visits the Brandywell often said it was blown out of proportion. I'll wait and see/hear what the story is before making judgement.

Fact is wee hures in Derry ruin our reputation twice as fast as it takes proper fan's to build it. We'll have to wait and see what happen's when we win the league this season. ;)

holidaysong
23/02/2005, 11:22 AM
The BBC have a news article on it..

http://news.bbc.co.uk (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4289691.stm)

patsh
23/02/2005, 11:54 AM
Morning Ireland had quite a bit on it. Gave a lot of coverage to the positive aspects of the game, the applause for the Linfield fans, a good few interviews, especially with Linfield fans who all said they were delighted to be there, Jim Roddy and others.

McCoille tried to make a big deal of the stone throwing, but the reporter, while admitting it was a setback, played it down and was careful to repeatedly say it was "republican youths" who threw the stones outside the ground, nothing to do with Derry. They mentioned that the PSNI did not steward the game, all this was looked after by DCFC, who had done an excellent job, but could do nothing about the thugs outside.

I presume the stone-throwers would claim to be "fans" of Celtic, but would hardly pay the few pounds to go inside the Brandywell?...:rolleyes: These w*nkers left the whole of Derry down last night, they deserve a good kicking...:mad:

niamh
23/02/2005, 12:00 PM
That's it isn't it? People outside the ground who have their own agenda ruining what was an otherwise important night for Irish football.
It certainly won't help defuse any concerns fans with clubs involved in the Setanta Cup are feeling about travelling away at the moment.

joey B
23/02/2005, 12:07 PM
After last nights events I would fear for Longford fans heading to windsor park.
I think Loyalist thugs could be out looking for "revenge" :(

GavinZac
23/02/2005, 12:32 PM
even the title of this thread is sensationalist. attacked? by a few stones thrown by little pikeys? in that case the no7 is attacked every few days :rolleyes:

MariborKev
23/02/2005, 12:39 PM
Here go people jumping to conclusions again......... :rolleyes:


Well can't make any claims about those throwing the stones as we left the ground the other way- saying we were heading back to Belfast in a "Comber Commercial bus.

However those firing fireworks certainly were Celtic "fans"

OneRedArmy
23/02/2005, 12:55 PM
Here go people jumping to conclusions again......... :rolleyes:

In fairness, the Celtic shirts and the big Celtic flag do provide a few pointers...........

patsh
23/02/2005, 12:57 PM
Here go people jumping to conclusions again......... :rolleyes:I didn't jump to any conclusions, my post was based on the reports I heard.
You don't have to see "anti-Celticness" in every post mentioning that club......:rolleyes:

Maz
23/02/2005, 1:01 PM
After last nights events I would fear for Longford fans heading to windsor park.
I think Loyalist thugs could be out looking for "revenge" :(

It might not be Linfield supporters out for revenge, The people in derry werent involved in the club and yet came out to cause trouble. They may come looking to cause trouble but have absolutely nothin to do with the clubs or football in general!

anto eile
23/02/2005, 1:12 PM
just saw report on utv there. more of a deal made of 2 smashed windows than the match itself. dup politician waffling on about the safety for any club in the irish league. bull, the lot of it. Rovers had a few windows smashed in derry when we were up ther last july.so waht it happens at gaem all over the world.its not worth a big sensationalist rant

joey B
23/02/2005, 1:12 PM
I did'nt mention Linfield fans I said Loyalists thugs.

jimhacker
23/02/2005, 1:17 PM
In fairness, the Celtic shirts and the big Celtic flag do provide a few pointers...........


Plus the curious absence of Rangers shirts!

BohDiddley
23/02/2005, 4:03 PM
My bus, with my young lad and a bunch of others on his schoolboy team, was stoned by pinheads outside Anfield last year. And Cathal Mac Coille didn't say a word about it on Morning Ireland!

dortie
23/02/2005, 7:53 PM
Having watched UTV news I have to say they said very little about the game. Not one bit surprised !!!

What made me laugh was the DUP's stance on the lack of police. If the RUC had been present things would have been 10 times worse.

BannsideBoy
23/02/2005, 8:20 PM
I know this might sound naive, or even just plain ignorant, but how would DCFC feel about moving out from the brandywell with the council backing a new purpose built stadium elsewhere?

dortie
23/02/2005, 8:35 PM
I know this might sound naive, or even just plain ignorant, but how would DCFC feel about moving out from the brandywell with the council backing a new purpose built stadium elsewhere?

Personally it would make better sense to re-develop the Brandywell, its the spiritual home of Derry City, it would also cost less to do so. A new purpose built stadium would take at least 10 years going by our Councils current track record of Implementing 'basic' Improvements.

It would obviously be better for playing the Linfields of this world to move elsewhere but being a realist the chances are we might play them at most once every few years in a Setanta cup, we are in the EL and will never be back in the Irish league. Therefore for me a few million for Improvements rather than maybe 10 million for a new stadium are more achievable.

BannsideBoy
23/02/2005, 8:49 PM
Would love another 'proper' north-west derby, I just wonder would coleraine fans now, after this incident, be under greater danger when entering/leaving the brandywell than they were a few years ago?

Or visa versa as I'm sure the Harpers Hill 'shot putters' would happen to be practising that afternoon too.

MariborKev
23/02/2005, 8:57 PM
Would love another 'proper' north-west derby, I just wonder would coleraine fans now, after this incident, be under greater danger when entering/leaving the brandywell than they were a few years ago?

Or visa versa as I'm sure the Harpers Hill 'shot putters' would happen to be practising that afternoon too.

This is going to sound tit for tat but the Coleraine away game was no bundle of laughs either

BannsideBoy
23/02/2005, 9:31 PM
It does ;)

But I know what you are talking about, we have our fair share of hoods, especially around the harpers hill area, thats why I mentioned them. Glentoran buses as they went past last week wwere allegedly attacked by a few stones. Its a worrying trend. Northern ireland railways get it the worst though, especially coming out of belfast.

Fortuna1886
24/02/2005, 1:12 AM
Can I just start by saying that Derry City FC has nothing to be ashamed of and nothing to apologise for. Not one Linfield fan that was there on Tuesday Night had one bad word to say about the handling or treatment at the match.
Even when emotions where running high everyone accepted it was out of their control. At the end of the day both sets of supporters where there to watch a historical game of football, nothing else.

Can I also point out it wasn't a case of one or two wee kids and there was a damn sight more than 2 windows broke; I counted 8 back at the assembly point. It was pure luck there wasn't anyone seriously injured and bearing that in mind I'd like to pay tribute to the Translink Bus drivers, one of whom was extremely shaken going by his interview on Radio Ulster this morning.

As for Longford fans, I wouldn't worry about coming to Windsor, any anger up here is being directed at the scum outside the ground who where out to have a go at "the other side", local politicians (esp. the Mayor of Derry for his helpful comments last week), private security firms, UTV and the police. My own opinion is that it wouldn't have mattered if the Police where present, they couldn't have stopped the attacks. It's a shocking state of affairs when areas are still regarded as no go areas in this day and age.


The infrastructure at Windsor is such that visiting Fans can be marshalled a hell of a lot better than the Brandywell, so come up and enjoy the match. I will be at Longford and I can assure you that the incident at the Brandywell will be a total irrelevance to the game.

Mon Blues :cool:

Longfordian
24/02/2005, 1:16 AM
Fair enough, hope to be up in Windsor Pk myself and im sure all will go off without a hitch. As you say it's just a pity there's so many small minded individuals waiting for the chance to stir up trouble.

BohsFans
24/02/2005, 1:48 AM
just saw report on utv there. more of a deal made of 2 smashed windows than the match itself. dup politician waffling on about the safety for any club in the irish league. bull, the lot of it. Rovers had a few windows smashed in derry when we were up ther last july.so waht it happens at gaem all over the world.its not worth a big sensationalist rant

rovers do their own bit of window smashing as well don't forget, mainly on Emmett rd.

CollegeTillIDie
24/02/2005, 8:23 PM
1/ It was amazing that the game went off so well and everyone inside the stadium behaved reasonably well. This is a credit to the home support and the visiting supporters as well.

2/ The security situation will need to be looked at if future games between Derry and Irish League opposition will take place in the coming years either in the Setanta Cup or much talked about All-Ireland League. However a recent development involving the PSNI and the Gardaí might provide a possible solution.

Here is the gist of it. Get a contingent of Gardaí to police the area around the Brandywell for the duration of the match. Then we will see just how faithful to the Republic of Ireland these Celtic jerseyed numbskulls are.
They are so faithful to the game of football and their city that they never darken the doors of the Brandywell and support their local team.

And as well as all that, it shows how far things have moved on when you realise that Linfield recently assisted the Queen's University Camogie team by giving them access to their all-weather training facilities before the recent Ashbourne Cup competition. Well done to David Jeffrey and every one in the Administration at Linfield F.C.

This coupled with the underage innovations with Dundalk F.C. in the Dunfield project show how much more progressive the football clubs themselves are on this island than the numbskulls who never attend matches, but yet gather outside and stone visiting supporters buses on the way out.

Éanna
24/02/2005, 8:24 PM
1Here is the gist of it. Get a contingent of Gardaí to police the area around the Brandywell for the duration of the match. Then we will see just how faithful to the Republic of Ireland these Celtic jerseyed numbskulls are.
they'd probably just regard the Gardaí as free-staters and shower them with stones too :rolleyes: good idea otherwise

CollegeTillIDie
24/02/2005, 8:24 PM
rovers do their own bit of window smashing as well don't forget, mainly on Emmett rd.

Perhaps but it is no sectarian overtones , it's just plain stupidity ! :p

dortie
24/02/2005, 8:31 PM
solution.

Here is the gist of it. Get a contingent of Gardaí to police the area around the Brandywell for the duration of the match. Then we will see just how faithful to the Republic of Ireland these Celtic jerseyed numbskulls are.
They are so faithful to the game of football and their city that they never darken the doors of the Brandywell and support their local team.

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What makes you think they'd be treated any better :eek: I remember we played the Gardaí in 85/86 in the cup, big banner on roof of the Jungle read
"Give us our guns back" ;)

Personally the Derry/Linfield game was a success apart from 2 political songs sung by them briefly (God Save the Queen and the Sash)....The ground was well stewarted prior to and after the game, no flags, no emblems, no possibility of trouble inside the ground, decent game of football and proof by the crowd (For a friendly) that an All Ireland Cup will be a success.

CollegeTillIDie
25/02/2005, 12:02 AM
What makes you think they'd be treated any better :eek: I remember we played the Gardaí in 85/86 in the cup, big banner on roof of the Jungle read
"Give us our guns back" ;)

That was to be fair 20 years ago during the troubles! :rolleyes:

Duncan Gardner
26/02/2005, 11:35 AM
Personally the Derry/Linfield game was a success apart from 2 political songs sung by them briefly (God Save the Queen and the Sash)....The ground was well stewarted prior to and after the game, no flags, no emblems, no possibility of trouble inside the ground, decent game of football and proof by the crowd (For a friendly) that an All Ireland Cup will be a success

An encouraging start. I look forward to Longford giving the Plues a good beating though :)