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martin_rules_ie
15/02/2005, 12:26 PM
Wednesday night’s match against Portugal was the first time in history that Ireland fielded a team entirely made up of players playing top flight football in England in a home international

Cowboy
15/02/2005, 1:09 PM
interesting, do you think this is an indication of a higher standard of squad members?

martin_rules_ie
15/02/2005, 1:14 PM
possibly. all the players who started are regulars for their clubs and its great that we don't HAVE to start first div players anymore. it gives off a more professional and respectable view of the team i believe

eirebhoy
15/02/2005, 1:15 PM
France 0-0 Ireland (WC Qualifiers) 09/10/04

Rep of Ireland: Given, Carr, O'Brien, Cunningham, O'Shea, Finnan, Roy Keane, Kilbane, Duff, Robbie Keane, Morrison.

/edit - Didn't see the home bit. :)

martin_rules_ie
15/02/2005, 1:17 PM
Wednesday night’s match against Portugal was the first time in history that Ireland fielded a team entirely made up of players playing top flight football in England in a home international

:cool:

martin_rules_ie
15/02/2005, 1:18 PM
Didn't see the home bit. :)

beat me too it!! ;)

Peadar
15/02/2005, 2:08 PM
Only 3 of them were Plastic Paddy's. ;)
Wonder what the lowest number of PP's we've had in an International starting XI is?

pineapple stu
15/02/2005, 2:11 PM
Have to go back to the mid to late 70s and a game with Switzerland for the last time the starting XI for Ireland were all born in the country...

Peadar
15/02/2005, 2:13 PM
Have to go back to the mid to late 70s

That's what I was thinking alright because I remember many players from the 80's and the number of PP's grew dramatically during that period.

BTW, before I get lambasted about having a go at PP's, I wouldn't have a squad without KK and AO'B.
CM didn't impress against Portugal but he's welcome in my squad too.

tricky_colour
15/02/2005, 3:14 PM
How about a plastic Paddies V real Paddies match?

I expect there woud be crowd trouble though :D

tricky_colour
15/02/2005, 3:18 PM
Only 3 of them were Plastic Paddy's. ;)
Wonder what the lowest number of PP's we've had in an International starting XI is?

Technically the apostrophy in Paddy's is incorrect, the same goes for
PP's.
Its plural, it does not donate possession or missing letter's ;) ;)

Condex
15/02/2005, 3:19 PM
possibly. all the players who started are regulars for their clubs and its great that we don't HAVE to start first div players anymore. it gives off a more professional and respectable view of the team i believe

What all the Kavanagh & Breen supporters will be up in arms!!!

wws
15/02/2005, 3:46 PM
intrestingly enough last night......Wenger was the first english club manager to name a 16-man squad that included not one British player!


........and they won 5-1!!!!!!!!!!




what does that say????

Metrostars
15/02/2005, 3:55 PM
intrestingly enough last night......Wenger was the first english club manager to name a 16-man squad that included not one British player!


........and they won 5-1!!!!!!!!!!




what does that say????

Actually Chelsea did that a few years ago. Last night was the first time Arsenal did it.

Closed Account 2
15/02/2005, 3:58 PM
I think Chelsea had Jodi Morris and one other British player (Nichol or someone?) in the 16 man squad (ie on the bench) that time.

Peadar
15/02/2005, 4:04 PM
I think Chelsea had Jodi Morris and one other British player (Nichol or someone?) in the 16 man squad (ie on the bench) that time.

Jody Morris, Jon Harley, John Terry and Mark Nicholls were all on the bench.
The game was v Southampton in 1999

eirebhoy
15/02/2005, 4:06 PM
Actually Chelsea did that a few years ago. Last night was the first time Arsenal did it.
Chelsea had 11 foreigners, don't think they had 5 foreigners on the bench.

How ironic though that UEFA are worried that clubs are only buying foreign players yet there were 5 Chelsea players on the pitch at the same time for England last year. Abramovich's money seems to be doing the opposite to what UEFA think. :)

Junior
15/02/2005, 4:22 PM
That's what I was thinking alright because I remember many players from the 80's and the number of PP's grew dramatically during that period.

BTW, before I get lambasted about having a go at PP's, I wouldn't have a squad without KK and AO'B.
CM didn't impress against Portugal but he's welcome in my squad too.

Now Im not CM's biggest fan in ayway shape or form. However, thought he played quite well last Weds and had a far better game than Keane (though that wasn't difficult)



Actually Chelsea did that a few years ago. Last night was the first time Arsenal did it.

In reverse, Spurs played 6 Brits + 2 Irish in their starting 11 versus WBA at the weekend!!

wws
15/02/2005, 4:25 PM
by Irish, dont you mean "west brits"?

eirebhoy
15/02/2005, 4:29 PM
by Irish, dont you mean "west brits"?
I posted this in another thread earlier on but here's a quote from some bloke on Sky News on the topic of Arsenal fielding all foreign players:

"Chelsea have a hardcore of English players, Frank Lampard, John Terry, or British players, Damien Duff."

Junior
15/02/2005, 4:54 PM
I posted this in another thread earlier on but here's a quote from some bloke on Sky News on the topic of Arsenal fielding all foreign players:

"Chelsea have a hardcore of English players, Frank Lampard, John Terry, or British players, Damien Duff."

In fact it was on 5-live that I heard about Spurs. The commentator said "8 british players in the starting 11" as well.

I was happy not to make the same error! :D

pineapple stu
15/02/2005, 6:42 PM
intrestingly enough last night......Wenger was the first english club manager to name a 16-man squad that included not one British player!

........and they won 5-1!!!!!!!!!!


what does that say????
That it isn't that long since the five subs rule was introduced?

First English team to play a team with no English players...Liverpool in the 80s - the likes of Grobbelaar, Hansen, Hysen, Molby, Whelan, Aldridge, Johnson, Rush, Houghton, Gillespie...

Though possibly some team way back in the 1880s had a team full of Scots?

Not such a new phenomenon (I know we're going to non-English speakers now, but still)

tetsujin1979
16/02/2005, 9:46 AM
That it isn't that long since the five subs rule was introduced?

First English team to play a team with no English players...Liverpool in the 80s - the likes of Grobbelaar, Hansen, Hysen, Molby, Whelan, Aldridge, Johnson, Rush, Houghton, Gillespie...

Though possibly some team way back in the 1880s had a team full of Scots?

Not such a new phenomenon (I know we're going to non-English speakers now, but still)

I think Liverpool won the cup with the least amount of English-born players - just Lawrenson, but I'm not sure of the year. Barnes would have been in the side, so it wasn't entirely non-English internationals.

Bluebeard
16/02/2005, 2:32 PM
Though possibly some team way back in the 1880s had a team full of Scots?

If I recall rightly, didn't Queen's Park win the English FA Cup twice in the 1880s, and Cardiff in 1927? Any locally based members of the forum want to check it out?

1MickCollins
21/02/2005, 7:17 PM
If I recall rightly, didn't Queen's Park win the English FA Cup twice in the 1880s, and Cardiff in 1927? Any locally based members of the forum want to check it out?

Queen's Park twice reached the FA Cup final but lost on both occassions, Cardiff did indeed win in '27.

pineapple stu
21/02/2005, 10:47 PM
Queen's Park twice reached the FA Cup final but lost on both occassions, Cardiff did indeed win in '27.
Queen's Park reached the first two semis, but never got to the final. They only ever played one game in the FA Cup too! And it finished 0-0!

Cardiff won he FA Cup in 1927 - 1-0 v. Arsenal (I think). Winning goal was a penalty which squirmed into the net off the keeper's newly cleaned and slippy jersey! Apparently the scorer was the only person in the ground who didn't see what happened! Think Cardiff lost out on the league title on goal average that year too...

dynamo kerry
22/02/2005, 9:49 AM
That's what I was thinking alright because I remember many players from the 80's and the number of PP's grew dramatically during that period.

BTW, before I get lambasted about having a go at PP's, I wouldn't have a squad without KK and AO'B.
CM didn't impress against Portugal but he's welcome in my squad too.

KK?

king kenny? from dublin?

Peadar
22/02/2005, 9:51 AM
KK?

king kenny? from dublin?


No, Zinedine Kilbane from Preston, Lancs.

BTW, "King Kenny" is KC, Kenny Cunningham. :rolleyes:

Peadar
22/02/2005, 10:15 AM
Kenny Dalglish was most famously known as this,mainly during his years @ Anfield...

The Greeks and the Romans were the only ancient people I studied in history, Dav. :D

dynamo kerry
22/02/2005, 12:05 PM
No, Zinedine Kilbane from Preston, Lancs.

BTW, "King Kenny" is KC, Kenny Cunningham. :rolleyes:


I know who king kenny is

I'd forgotten about skilbane.

I wish I could continue to forget about him.