Come to Cork this March 17

[Green Tribe]

ok that didn't work... :D :D :D :D

[Troy.McClure]

You can see the OO's main site here (http://www.grandorange.org.uk/index.html). Some interesting and fair points made on it IMO, although I think they have a slightly 'slanted' view on some things (but Im sure I do too).

Check out the Mr Orange in the shop :D

[liam88]

re.NE Ulster.....some of the best people you could ever meet........

Aye! Agree with you there....a certain hotoculture expert spring to mind :D
Also met a really nice bloke from Derry in the ice house up Camden......turns out he was from Kerry just had a bit to much to drink :D :eek:

[Lionel Ritchie]

I can't stand the GAA, but that is well wide of the mark IMO. The OO is absolutely and utterly sectarian in its intentions- i.e. only Protestants can join. Thats not the case with the GAA.

Eanna - I think there are sectarian elements and individuals within the OO -but it's hardly reasonable to call them a sectarian organisation because only Protestants can join. It's a protestant, religious organisation -it strikes me as perfectly reasonable that they only allow fellow protestants join -in much the same way that I understand why the (at LEAST as sinister) Opus Dei is for Roman Catholics only.

Where OO sectarianism IS explicit is in it's forbidding it's members to marry RCs ...though the RC church through 'ne temere' puts implicit stumbling blocks in the way. Granted the RC church won't boot you out but it's making sure it doesn't lose out on your offspring.

Similarily the GAA enshrines implicit sectarianism through it's demand that members uphold what are by any reasonable evaluation Irish Nationalist values that Unionists (20% of the Irish population) could not sign up to.

[Lionel Ritchie]

Not interested generally in the views of archaic dinosaurs........suffice to say that this organisation has practiced indoctrination & discrimination @ virtually every opportunity......until they apologise for this,the GAA by contrast are benign.

I thought it was the GAA you were on about til I got to the last bit :eek: :D :D :D

[Éanna]

Eanna - I think there are sectarian elements and individuals within the OO -but it's hardly reasonable to call them a sectarian organisation because only Protestants can join. It's a protestant, religious organisation -it strikes me as perfectly reasonable that they only allow fellow protestants join -in much the same way that I understand why the (at LEAST as sinister) Opus Dei is for Roman Catholics only.
being honest, I'm deeply suspicious of organised religion as a whole, but particularly the more sinister groups like the OO, Opus Dei etc.,

[Peadar]

I'm deeply suspicious of organised religion as a whole, but particularly the more sinister groups like the OO, Opus Dei etc.,


Don't forget the Stonecutters...

Welcome to the sacred order of the Stonecutters who since ancient times have split the rocks of ignorance which obscure the light of knowledge and truth. Now let's all get drunk and play ping pong!

:D

[Lionel Ritchie]

Don't forget the Stonecutters...

Welcome to the sacred order of the Stonecutters who since ancient times have split the rocks of ignorance which obscure the light of knowledge and truth. Now let's all get drunk and play ping pong!

:D

Who-holds-back-the-elec-tric-car?
Who makes Steve Guttenburg -a star?

WE DO WE-EE DO!!!!

[Éanna]

Who-holds-back-the-elec-tric-car?
Who makes Steve Guttenburg -a star?

WE DO WE-EE DO!!!!
doesn't quite have the same ring to it as the sash (eh, ruairi ;) ) , but a good tune nonethless.