Athlone Again........Naturally

[Charlie Darwin]

Its very easy to dismiss this from the outside looking in. When you know what is really going on and the history of certain players and the guy who is "investing" the money then maybe yer opinions would change on this. This has been well researched since late January/early February. This isn't just a spur of the moment thing after 1 or 2 bad games.
Regardless of how well-researched it is, I think for dahamsta's sake you should keep your powder dry until you're in a position to present your research.

[ATFC-1887]

https://www.facebook.com/AthloneTownFcFans/posts/1301011659981690
Nobody has said its fact, we are just providing information that is already on the internet.

[KeepersBall]

This is the woman who has the key to a lot of things. https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Jos%C3%A9_Morgado


An anti corruption investigative magistrate in Lisbon

[Eminence Grise]

Regardless of how well-researched it is, I think for dahamsta's sake you should keep your powder dry until you're in a position to present your research.

I agree.


https://www.facebook.com/AthloneTownFcFans/posts/1301011659981690
Nobody has said its fact, we are just providing information that is already on the internet.

The fact that people are willing to give credence to stuff on the internet that is conjecture is reckless. Repeating libel isn't reportage: it's libel.

[EatYerGreens]

https://www.facebook.com/AthloneTownFcFans/posts/1301011659981690
Nobody has said its fact, we are just providing information that is already on the internet.

"I'm not claiming that my argument is based on fact. It's based on internet stuff - which everyone knows is better/more interesting/more fun than fact".

A new low for Foot.ie ?

[ATFC-1887]

Ok my "argument" is based on fact. These lads were investigated for corruption and match fixing. Im saying im not stating that they did fix games but that they were highly suspected of it and are on black lists in certain countries. And a good few of them randomly get landed in Athlone and the 2 guys running the show have been investigated for corruption before. Is that better for you?

[ATFC-1887]

But anyways ok, i won't post anything about the subject here anymore.

[Lim till i die]

For me personally the most incredible thing about this whole situation is the foresight the athlone fans had to begin their boycott nearly a full decade before this regime took over.

[nigel-harps1954]

Ok my "argument" is based on fact. These lads were investigated for corruption and match fixing. Im saying im not stating that they did fix games but that they were highly suspected of it and are on black lists in certain countries. And a good few of them randomly get landed in Athlone and the 2 guys running the show have been investigated for corruption before. Is that better for you?

So what you're saying is that it's based on fact and coincidence at the same time?

[EatYerGreens]

So what you're saying is that it's based on fact and coincidence at the same time?

We are living in a post-fact league....

[sbgawa]

For me personally the most incredible thing about this whole situation is the foresight the athlone fans had to begin their boycott nearly a full decade before this regime took over.

That's harsh :)

[atfconline]

And we've gone through our second manager of the season. Club gets his name wrong in their own statement.

http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/news/roundup/articles/2017/04/21/4138816-monsanto-steps-down-as-athlone-manager/

[ATFC-1887]

Roddy rumoured to be coming back. Was meant to announced today but put back until next week.
Laughing stock of the league

[Philosophizer]

Laughing stock of the league

I don't think too many LOI fans are laughing at you.

Everyone who supports a team in our league (bar Cabo) has probably seen their own club in a shambles at one stage or another, and are wary that their own club could go tits up again v quickly with a bit of bad luck, so ppl aren't too quick to laugh at Athlone (apart from Longford lads maybe).

[sidewayspasser]

Had Colin Fortune left the club after being demoted in favour of Monsanto? If not, they could reinstate him, at least as a caretaker. But I guess that would mean admitting that it was the wrong decision to demote him in the first place, so it's unlikely to happen.

[Longfordian]

I don't think too many LOI fans are laughing at you.

Everyone who supports a team in our league (bar Cabo) has probably seen their own club in a shambles at one stage or another, and are wary that their own club could go tits up again v quickly with a bit of bad luck, so ppl aren't too quick to laugh at Athlone (apart from Longford lads maybe).

No, the best we can do is a wry smile these days. It'd be a bit "tuppence ha'penny looking down on tuppence" as my father likes to say.

[Philosophizer]

No, the best we can do is a wry smile these days. It'd be a bit "tuppence ha'penny looking down on tuppence" as my father likes to say.

What a brilliant expression. I'll steal that one!

[NeverFeltBetter]

I don't think too many LOI fans are laughing at you.

Everyone who supports a team in our league (bar Cabo) has probably seen their own club in a shambles at one stage or another, and are wary that their own club could go tits up again v quickly with a bit of bad luck, so ppl aren't too quick to laugh at Athlone (apart from Longford lads maybe).

Yeah, and it all can turn around remarkably quickly. Case in point: how long has it been since Dundalk were on the brink? Five years? Athlone will come around. Collins, as much as I dislike him a multitude of reasons, has prior experience getting a team out of the First Division (I'd get rid of him fast after that though).

[ATFC-1887]

Can't see Roddy working with the investors players. And they will not be got rid of. He would have murders with the foreign lads within a week.

[ATFC-1887]

On the dundalk note. Completely different circumstances. Life long fans, myself included now have a hatred for the club it has become all because of the chairman and Michael o Connor. I went home and away every single week for 20 odd years and now I haven't been to a game since May 2016. That's how bad it has got. If people really knew what has went on. They have got away with so much

[Nesta99]

On the dundalk note. Completely different circumstances. Life long fans, myself included now have a hatred for the club it has become all because of the chairman and Michael o Connor. I went home and away every single week for 20 odd years and now I haven't been to a game since May 2016. That's how bad it has got. If people really knew what has went on. They have got away with so much

There were plenty of odd goings on at Dundalk too that drove the club to the brink rather than say paying unsustainable wages or lack of support. The fundraising that was done wasnt blindly handed over and some extremely dedicated people that persisted via the supporters trust eventually convinced a local businessman that it may not be the best thing to stubbornly refuse to allow solutions to the problems rather than the do as i say or want or else.

What is the set-up at ATFC in terms of investors say, do they have an agenda like trying to churn out young lads in hope of selling on, is it a play thing, is it hoping to leverage other ideas not disimilar to suggestions on Bray's investment and the Carlisle Grounds even with the recent ground development, who are the investors and where from. Where is the Italian (or Portuguese is seems) connection or reason for bringing in foreign players assuming legitimate reasons. Maybe this is in other threads but it would be great if one of you Athlone lads would give a quick idea of the lie of the land.

If Roddy does get the job can we do a prediction of his cliches and who he will bring to the club if allowed. How many times has the last chance saloon been said. In fairness though he was doing a decent job before his head was turned by the job he always wanted.

[Martinho II]

Colin fortune quit athlone a few weeks back.

[Ezeikial]

There were plenty of odd goings on at Dundalk too that drove the club to the brink rather than say paying unsustainable wages or lack of support. The fundraising that was done wasnt blindly handed over and some extremely dedicated people that persisted via the supporters trust eventually convinced a local businessman that it may not be the best thing to stubbornly refuse to allow solutions to the problems rather than the do as i say or want or else.



I'd love to see that paragraph translated into English

[ATFC-1887]

It appears Roddy deal is done. Announced early next week........ :mad:

[Nesta99]

I am sure you are sharp enough to get its gist.

[KeepersBall]

Will Roddy get the fans back to the games.

[Eminence Grise]

Will Roddy get the fans backs up at the games?

Fixed that for you.:D

[KeepersBall]

It appears the investor has welshed on the deal with Roddy.
It was agreed last week but has now been pulled and won't happen.
I don't exactly know why, but perhaps this interview from some years back may explain it.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/interview-the-curious-case-of-roddy-collins-316887.html

[wonder88]

Interesting piece in the New York Times by Rory Smith on someone who is a big influence on Portuguese coaching. Any feedback on the methods used by the guy at Athlone? would it be good if there was some use made of these ideas in Irish soccer?

[Charlie Darwin]

Interesting piece in the New York Times by Rory Smith on someone who is a big influence on Portuguese coaching. Any feedback on the methods used by the guy at Athlone? would it be good if there was some use made of these ideas in Irish soccer?
Ask Athlone!

[Longfordian]

I'm half expecting Roddy to turn up and announce himself as The Investor with some WWE style shenanigans.

[outspoken]

I'm half expecting Roddy to turn up and announce himself as The Investor with some WWE style shenanigans.

Lights go out, Roddy comes up behind the Portuguese fella and smashes him with a steel chair. Looking forward to it

[colonelwest]

I'm half expecting Roddy to turn up and announce himself as The Investor with some WWE style shenanigans.

Awwwwww sunuvabitch!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kujo7V9m0gk

[KeepersBall]

And when they are gone they are DEFINITELY gone.

http://leagueofireland.ie/index.php/2017/04/27/colin-fortune-leaves-athlone-town-afc/