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drummerboy
10/02/2005, 8:34 AM
After watching Ireland last night, I believe we could be on the verge of a really glorious era in Irish International football. Although it was only a friendly, the ease at which Ireland snuffed out the Portugal team was very heartening. In the last year we have managed to hold Brazil, France, Portugal, Croatia and the Czech Republic scoreless. (not too sure of score against Croatia). The age profile of the team is quite young and if the likes of Duff and Given can steer clear of injuries I think we will all be getting the funds together to head to Germany once again. Hats off to Brian Kerr.

Eire06
10/02/2005, 8:43 AM
YA I went to the match with my brother and we argued this point all the way home which took ages by the way got stuck behind a circus YES A CIRCUS which all had big lorrys and wouldn't let anyone over take them... :mad:

Anyway they look so confident and calm last night they easly bet Portugal If they continue to play like that I can see them easly getting to the semi-finals if not the FINAL of the WC....

Roll on Germany 06

tetsujin1979
10/02/2005, 8:45 AM
I wasn't sure which way to look at it, were Ireland good because they didn't let Portugal play and attack, or did Portugal make Ireland look good by not attacking?? Listening to Newstalk on the way home, they made the point that Big Phil wasn't here for a holiday, he has better places to go for a holiday, he was here to win.

Stuttgart88
10/02/2005, 8:50 AM
If we brush over some of the dodgy bits then that was a really encouraging showing, especially given the gale that was blowing. The balance of the side is good and Kerr is getting the right mix of creativity and defensive discipline into the team as a whole.

At times the quality of our attacking play was of the highest order with Duff & Reid showing the value of genuine width and cunning. But the defence had a few lapses in concentration that could easily be punished in a qualifier, especially in the first quarter of the game, though O’Brien grew into the game.

Central midfield did some decent holding / defensive work but lacked any real wit or creativity. I’d like to see central midfield as being more than a vehicle to get the ball to the wide players. They were up against quality though.

If you could add some of the Portuguese movement and deftness of touch to our play this Irish team could really go places.

On that performance the only change I’d make for Israel would be to bring Keane in for Holland. Finnan continues to look a cut above Carr in my mind.

And again, let’s say nothing about getting to Germany. George Hamilton has made a career out of tempting fate like that.

NeilMcD
10/02/2005, 9:10 AM
Holland France and Switzerland were all away from home I believe

drummerboy
10/02/2005, 9:12 AM
“never been tested” – what about Paris?

Eire06
10/02/2005, 9:13 AM
“never been tested” – what about Paris?
Ya and we sould have won that one... we deserved to

Lionel Ritchie
10/02/2005, 9:21 AM
thought we played quite well all things considered -the weather was a dreadful for long periods. was in the north terrace and got a fair soaking even with a windbreaker on. Don't think the amount of squalls really suited anyone trying to be creative with a ball on the grass but we coped with it better than them.

One worry -I don't think we're as tight defending on corners that we might be. Again swirly winds and rain falling make for inconsistency but just thought we looked a little shakey there at times. Nit-picking though.
Quite happy with the performance all 'round. Bring on Israel.

Stuttgart88
10/02/2005, 9:23 AM
And unbeaten in Poland too!

I agree with his point though. I'd prefer to see a few more away friendlies & I think Kerr has said as much too.

NeilMcD
10/02/2005, 9:27 AM
So what teams out there are good so and woudl provide us with a test away from home.

Bowsy
10/02/2005, 9:36 AM
Sweden away would be a good difficult friendly although i think we've played plenty of testing sides even if a majority of them have been at LR.

Good performance all round last night. Portugal didn't look like a side going through the motions to me. This really looks a strong promising Ireland team but i think i'll stop there as to avoid the aforementioned tempting fate.

dr_peepee
10/02/2005, 9:44 AM
I thought we looked a bit stronger with Reid on the left and Duff on the right, on the occasions that they switched.

Stuttgart88
10/02/2005, 9:58 AM
With regard to away fixtures I'd like to see one or two more away games added to the schedule. Getting the winning habit has been an important part of this team's development up to now but if we transfer that winning habit to away games then I think it'd move our development up one more notch. In a way the Israel game will serve two purpose. 3 points would be great, but so too would the less tangible experience of winning away.

But the next couple of friendlies look to be of value. The upcoming China game will help a few fringe players to get involved. The Italy game will be a dress rehearsal for France.

pete
10/02/2005, 10:43 AM
The defense is good, some good cover options. Centre midfield well covered. Got some quality wide players but slightly lacking in attack. Morrisson is ok but can have varied performances & who is 3rd choice?

Squad hasn't many old players & steady supply of young possible international players for the future. Ireland seems to make a lot better use of promoting u-21 players than others.

Duff is out 1 truely world-class player. When was the last time he had a bad game for his country? IMO one of the most crucial players we've ever had.

Reid has a lot of potential if he can add some extra speed.

Donal81
10/02/2005, 10:53 AM
I'd agree. Duff is fantastic and is the most dangerous player we have.

Reid looks like he's been playing first division football for too long, he seems to be carrying a bit of weight, not being nasty about it but just a perception. If you compare his physique to Duff's or Keane's...This can be easily remedied, however.

Eire06
10/02/2005, 10:57 AM
I'd agree. Duff is fantastic and is the most dangerous player we have.

Reid looks like he's been playing first division football for too long, he seems to be carrying a bit of weight, not being nasty about it but just a perception. If you compare his physique to Duff's or Keane's...This can be easily remedied, however.

Ya when I saw him last night I felt like starting a rendition of who ate all the pies....

Mind you he was one of the best players on the pitch so maybe the extra weight is helpin him in some strange way.....

Spurs won't be long knockin him into shape anyway

Stuttgart88
10/02/2005, 11:01 AM
Ya when I saw him last night I felt like starting a rendition of who ate all the pies....

Mind you he was one of the best players on the pitch so maybe the extra weight is helpin him in some strange way.....

Spurs won't be long knockin him into shape anyway

Funny. I saw him as a kid and thought he may be too small to make it. The poor fella can't win!

Eire06
10/02/2005, 11:03 AM
Funny. I saw him as a kid and thought he may be too small to make it. The poor fella can't win!

I think he has proved a lot of people wrong... Fair play to him cause he does get a lot of crap

concanta
10/02/2005, 12:46 PM
I do think we are lacking in attack but we have McGeady now as an attacking option - I think he will be class. I really hope sunderland get promoted - it could really benefit Stephen Elliott.

I think it is important to take positives from teh games but not be over the top. I think we did well ....I think it is time for Dunne to be back on the team.
I honestly believe if we beat Israel away we will have taken a GIANT step towards Germany

Dawn_Run
10/02/2005, 12:56 PM
I do think we are lacking in attack but we have McGeady now as an attacking option - I think he will be class.

Same as. Was hoping Kerr would give him a longer run. At least a half hour. Ten mins wasnt enough - looked lively for it though.

razor
10/02/2005, 1:12 PM
I do think we are lacking in attack but we have McGeady now as an attacking option - I think he will be class. I really hope sunderland get promoted - it could really benefit Stephen Elliott.
agreed, have been really impressed with Elliott this season.
Was he not on the bench last night ? Surely he deserves a run out before McGeady ? He has scored more goals.

Eire06
10/02/2005, 1:17 PM
Same as. Was hoping Kerr would give him a longer run. At least a half hour. Ten mins wasnt enough - looked lively for it though.

Keane should have been taken off much earlier... it just wasn't workin for him last night...

Eire06
10/02/2005, 2:33 PM
I think the defence did a top job last night O'Brien for obvious reasons stood out..
I also think O'Shay did a good job he slipped up once or twice but overall it was a performance from him. Given didn't have to do much all match, but when he did he stepped up to the challange especially when he saved Petit’s free kick..

Eire06
10/02/2005, 2:40 PM
bar his goals when has it ever worked for him?? he is the most frustrating player ever to watch. thats said we need him for the goals.


I think keane is the most frustrating player to watch ever in a green jersey, i was discussing this wit the mott last night, she was saying alright he gets the goals but he does fcek all else apart from throw his hands in the hair, holds onto the ball too long, always runs away from goals and does too many stupid flciks.

I know I have to say I do love Robbie Keane but he seems to do nothin but wait around for the ball to land at his feet, Duff does all the hard work and Robbie just waits for the delivery....

AND would it kill him to run for the ball....

Hopefull he'll improve with Reid at Spurs now they might get good practice in..

McGeady should have been brought on much earlier last night

drummerboy
10/02/2005, 3:02 PM
Having read some of the Spurs messageboards its clear that a lot of Spurs supporters are not too happy with Robbie. They too, find his constant bickering to other players really annoying and can't wait to see the back of him. Hopefully Jol and Kerr can get him to cop on as he could be a great playelr.

tricky_colour
10/02/2005, 3:30 PM
I'd agree. Duff is fantastic and is the most dangerous player we have.

Reid looks like he's been playing first division football for too long, he seems to be carrying a bit of weight, not being nasty about it but just a perception. If you compare his physique to Duff's or Keane's...This can be easily remedied, however.


Reid looks in good shape in the top picture, but a bit podgier in the
second picture here, I think the top picture is the earliest but
I can't be sure.


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=324426&cc=5739

finlma
10/02/2005, 7:18 PM
...... I can see them easly getting to the semi-finals if not the FINAL of the WC....

Roll on Germany 06

Hold on a minute. We beat Portugal in a freindly, lets not get carried away. It was a good performance and the team certainly look good but a few injuries and we're in serious trouble. There's not much strength in depth, especially in central midfield. I remember when we beat Germany and I think Holland pre World Cup 94 and everyone thought we would win it - didn't exactly happen.

Brian Kerr is doing a wonderful job though and it bodes well for the upcoming qualifiers.

Kevin77
11/02/2005, 12:14 AM
After watching Ireland last night, I believe we could be on the verge of a really glorious era in Irish International football. Although it was only a friendly, the ease at which Ireland snuffed out the Portugal team was very heartening. In the last year we have managed to hold Brazil, France, Portugal, Croatia and the Czech Republic scoreless. (not too sure of score against Croatia). The age profile of the team is quite young and if the likes of Duff and Given can steer clear of injuries I think we will all be getting the funds together to head to Germany once again. Hats off to Brian Kerr.

I agree with you almost entirely. Almost. Roy Keane is 33. That’s the problem. He makes this good team a great team. Without him, we are just an average/good team. We do not have anyone who can drive the midfield. Most of the top teams have quality central midfielders. Other than Keane, we have average midfielders and no young players that look like making it as top rate central midfielders.

If only Roy was 25/26, we’d be a certainty to dominate at a major championship in the near future.