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bennocelt
14/11/2016, 10:28 AM
Complete drivel BC.

Informative contribution there, thank you:rolleyes:
OwlsFan
16/11/2016, 3:30 PM
I expected Clinton to win, because I completely underestimated the sale of the disenfranchisement, and rather than alienating potential voters, Trump's comments appealed to them. I posted this elsewhere:
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I read a good line in a piece somewhere about those people in the rust belt who voted for Trump.

It was something like this: After years of letters that were never replied to and phone calls that were never returned, Trump is a brick through the window.

He sensed the huge amount of anger and disenfranchisement out there, and capitalised on it. I still think he's the last person, and will be surrounded by the last people, that you would expect to do anything about it.

Whatever about his personal charisma, it says a lot for Obama's legacy that, after 8 years of a Democratic presidency (notwithstanding his being hindered by Republicans), people were ready to elect somebody Trump.

It's a historical fact in democracies that when people feel alienated and are getting hit financially, they don't vote for the middle ground but for the extremes.
backstothewall
16/11/2016, 10:14 PM
It's a historical fact in democracies that when people feel alienated and are getting hit financially, they don't vote for the middle ground but for the extremes.

There are also a lot of examples of there being more than 1 swing. If Trump fails to live up to the hooge expectations he has set people up with there is a distinct possibility of a massive lurch to the left and a Sanders style democrat being elected in 4 years.
dahamsta
17/11/2016, 1:15 PM
Rough translation: Groups of people are retarded.
backstothewall
17/11/2016, 6:23 PM
Rough translation: Groups of people are retarded.

To be fair to Sanders he's hardly a radical. He'd be vaguely centre-left here.
BonnieShels
19/11/2016, 10:57 PM
He's radical for the States though.
backstothewall
23/11/2016, 1:08 PM
He's radical for the States though.

Ohh most definitely.
Real ale Madrid
26/01/2017, 4:50 PM
If Trump Builds a wall - then Canada does the same - we should all pitch in for a lid.
dahamsta
31/01/2017, 11:28 PM
Trump took office on 20/01, I've moved posts from after that date here (http://foot.ie/threads/219506-Trump).