U23 Players

[tetsujin1979]

Throwing this one out there for public discussion. Last night's EPL Trophy games saw first appearances for Shane Griffin, Josh Barrett, Ryan Sweeney, Dylan Watts, Conor Ronan, Tom Holland, Daniel McKenna, Declan Rice, Thomas O'Connor, Robert McCourt, Zachary Elbouzedi, Des Hutchison and Jay Molumby in the competition, although they've all played for their respective clubs at U23/Academy level this season.
The question is, does each player deserve their own thread, as is currently the case with players making their first appearance at senior club level, or should they all be bundled into one U23 level thread?

I'll let the poll run until the end of the week and abide by the poll results at that point

[DeLorean]

They've still only been included in their club's academy squads so I wouldn't think they're quite worthy of an individual thread just yet! Even if it is a senior club competition they've been invited to participate in.

[tetsujin1979]

They've still only been included in their club's academy squads so I wouldn't think they're quite worthy of an individual thread just yet! Even if it is a senior club competition they've been invited to participate in.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It's very much a grey area.

[pineapple stu]

It's not even sure if the Trophy format is going to continue beyond this year (lots of lower league clubs unhappy about the Academy teams joining, and a protest/boycott was doing the rounds on social media), so this could well be a one-off.

I think one thread for those kind of players is ok.

[BonnieShels]

Can the Single Threads option be changed to "Single Thread" or "A Single Thread"? It kinda reads like they're the same thing.

I'm for them not getting individual threads until they make a senior first team appearance.

[tetsujin1979]

Can the Single Threads option be changed to "Single Thread" or "A Single Thread"? It kinda reads like they're the same thing.

I'm for them not getting individual threads until they make a senior first team appearance.
Crap, missed that. Can't edit a poll after it's been created. Dammit.

[TheBoss]

Slightly off topic but I would be in favour a sub forum in this forum just for players, just think it would be a lot more aesthetically pleasing instead of seeing a mix of player, match and other threads.

[BonnieShels]

Slightly off topic but I would be in favour a sub forum in this forum just for players, just think it would be a lot more aesthetically pleasing instead of seeing a mix of player, match and other threads.

The only thing going against that is traffic. By being all together the players ' threads get hit often enough by being mixed in.

[pineapple stu]

Should be less of an issue now with the match threads getting archived to a different forum surely?

[tetsujin1979]

Slightly off topic but I would be in favour a sub forum in this forum just for players, just think it would be a lot more aesthetically pleasing instead of seeing a mix of player, match and other threads.

forum would look pretty bare, no?
it would be liitle more than the sub forums, plus the sticky threads, and one or two match threads

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

*Mateusz Hewelt kept a clean sheet for Everton as well.

[Paddy Garcia]

Ryan Sweeney has his own thread already - quite right too having played for the Dons.............

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Conor Shaughnessy, younger brother of Joe Shaughnessy, has signed for Leeds after being released by Reading.

[tetsujin1979]

ok, that's a pretty resounding result - one single thread for the U23 players until they get a place in a senior team matchday squad
one or two threads have already been started, and I'll leave them alone but from here on, any new threads for players in the U23 sides will be merged into this one

[tetsujin1979]

Conor Coventry at West Ham U23 and Dan Casey at Sunderland involved in the Trophy games tonight

[liamoo11]

Conor Coventry at West Ham U23 and Dan Casey at Sunderland involved in the Trophy games tonight

thats a fine achievement for Coventry as he is still under 17

[tetsujin1979]

Anthony Breslin came off the bench for Wolves U23's last night after he returned from a loan with Tamworth.

[samhaydenjr]

Others in action last night:
- For Brighton, Des Hutchinson played 76 minutes, Tom Cadman was on the bench
- Robert McCourt and Shaun Donnellan both started for West Brom against Luton
- Ryan Sweeney was an unused sub in Stoke U-23s' defeat at morecambe
- Liam Kelly played the full game and Shane Griffin came on after 19 mins as Reading U-23s defeated Portsmouth on penalties - Griffin missed one of the spot-kicks
- And finally Blackburn U-23s had young up-and-comer Anthony Stokes playing up front as they went down to defeat against Carlisle - one for the future, methinks

[samhaydenjr]

Here's an interesting one - Caoimhin Kelleher, who's still a month away from his eighteenth birthday, has been playing fairly regularly for Liverpool's Under-23s this season, including in the defeat to Manchester City this evening where he made a string of saves: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/academy/241173-reds-u23s-fall-to-narrow-defeat-at-manchester-city

[liamoo11]

Here's an interesting one - Caoimhin Kelleher, who's still a month away from his eighteenth birthday, has been playing fairly regularly for Liverpool's Under-23s this season, including in the defeat to Manchester City this evening where he made a string of saves: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/academy/241173-reds-u23s-fall-to-narrow-defeat-at-manchester-city

its an interesting one him and the polish keeper alternate under 18 games and 23 s games and both look very good . They have benefited from George who has been involved in first team stuff at Liverpool been injured all season

[liamoo11]

Evan Pierce made his first appearance I think tonight at under 23 for West brom

[samhaydenjr]

Checkatrade trophy update:
- Harry Charsley scored for Everton U-23s as they lost on penalties to Blackpool
- Connor Ronan scored Wolves' third from the spot against Accrington Stanley - Anthony Breslin came on as a second-half sub, Conor Levingston was an unused sub
- Ryan Sweeney an unused sub for Stoke U-23s
- Young up-and-comer Anthony Stokes scored for Blackburn U-23s and scored his penalty as they lost a shoot-out to Oldham
- Dylan Watts an unused sub in Leicester's defeat to Walsall - Kevin Toner and Liam Kinsella both played the full 90 for Walsall
- Tom Holland a late sub for Swansea
- Declan Rice played the full game for West Ham, sixteen-year-old Conor Coventry was on the bench
- As mentioned in his own thread, Richie Towell got the winner for Brighton U-23s. Dessie Hutchinson played the full game and Jayson Molumby came on as a second-half sub
- Robert McCourt, Shaun Donnellan and Zachary Elbouzedi all turned out for West Brom U-23s against a Gillingham team that included Mark Byrne, Emmanuel Osadebe and Bradley Garmston in his first appearance since April

That is all

[tetsujin1979]

Paul Rooney and Kyron Farrell made their debuts for Millwall

[tetsujin1979]

Dan Casey, Jean-Yves Poame and James Talbot on the bench for Sunderland U23 tonight

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Paul Rooney follows his debut midweek with a place on the bench for Millwall's league game this afternoon.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Paul Tisdale contradicts reports in The Irish Sun; signing Ryan Swan for Exeter was never an option.

http://www.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/paul-tisdale-says-signing-irish-striker-ryan-swan-was-never-an-option-for-exeter-city/story-29885197-detail/story.html

[SkStu]

Talk of Ryan signing for Bohs.

[Charlie Darwin]

Talk of Ryan signing for Bohs.
Would make sense alright. Few kites being flown in the Sun lately with Swan and Lopes going to English teams but pretty obvious neither was ever going to happen. Hopefully Ryan follows in his da's footsteps and deserts the gypos for Dublin's big club :)

[tetsujin1979]

Wolves progressed earlier, after beating Sunderland's U23 side 4-3 on penalties. Wolves' Conor Ronan and Sunderland's Dan Casey scored their penalties in the shoot out

[liamoo11]

O Connor and afolabi starting for Southampton 23 s against reading tonight. Barrett and Keown start for reading. Griffin sub. Obafemi is on bench for Southampton who is eligible it seems for our under 17s along with afolabi both strikers

[tetsujin1979]

U18 midfielder Daniel Mandroiu came off the bench for Brighton U23 against Coventry earlier.

[samhaydenjr]

...and then there was one.
- Last man standing in the EFL Trophy of the Irish Academy players is Tom Holland, whose Swansea City U23s were the only academy side to progress to the quarter-finals, beating a Wolves' U-23 side that had Anthony Breslin and Conor Levingston as starters, with Levingston replaced by Daniel McKenna on 77 mins.
- Elsewhere Josh Barrett scored an injury-time penalty for Reading's U-23s but it was only a consolation as they were beaten 4-2 by Yeovil. Shane Griffin came on as a second-half sub
- Dessie Hutchinson and Jayson Molumby started for Brighton U-23s as they lost 3-0 to Coventry. Daniel Mandroiu came off the bench while Dylan Barnett was an unused sub

[liamoo11]

...and then there was one.
- Last man standing in the EFL Trophy of the Irish Academy players is Tom Holland, whose Swansea City U23s were the only academy side to progress to the quarter-finals, beating a Wolves' U-23 side that had Anthony Breslin and Conor Levingston as starters, with Levingston replaced by Daniel McKenna on 77 mins.
- Elsewhere Josh Barrett scored an injury-time penalty for Reading's U-23s but it was only a consolation as they were beaten 4-2 by Yeovil. Shane Griffin came on as a second-half sub
- Dessie Hutchinson and Jayson Molumby started for Brighton U-23s as they lost 3-0 to Coventry. Daniel Mandroiu came off the bench while Dylan Barnett was an unused sub

cadman was a sub as well for Brighton

[pineapple stu]

Watts was an unused sub for Leicester too; they lost 6-1 to Cambridge

[samhaydenjr]

Ronan Hale scored Birmingham's third in their U-23 game against QPR (I think that may be his first since stepping up from the U-18s). Corey O'Keeffe, Dan Cleary and Noe Baba all played for Birmingham

[liamoo11]

http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/april/10-april/highlights-west-ham-united-pl2-1-3-middlesbrough

Scully with nice free kick for west ham think it his first appearece at that Level. Chunky lad