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Longfordian
16/08/2016, 7:24 AM
I wasn't really surprised to see them released as I figured we could do better. Turns out we couldn't, or didn't.

sullanefc
16/08/2016, 7:30 AM
Banning drums is a good thing. Wish we could ban the woeful drummer at the cross.

chickennuggets
16/08/2016, 11:42 AM
Wasn't at the game last night as I'm away at the moment, but reports coming from last night's game seem to be highly exaggerated from those of others I've spoken to. While a bit of positivity is obviously long overdue, it all seems so forced and orchestrated. Philly Gannon seemed to hit the nail on the head on Twitter with his immediate calling up of bullsh*t. The thing about Town fans is we agree on probably 80-90% of the issues and the areas that need addressing, it's just the manner in which these issues get brought up that drives us apart. A few people really need to take a look at themselves. For all the good work they see themselves doing, it's more harm than good that's actually being caused. It's a sad state of affairs. And while we are more than likely facing automatic relegation, the level of celebration and faux optimism is fairly sickening in my opinion. I'll be back home this week. Looking forward to standing in Section O next weekend and hopefully sneaking an undeserved 1-0 win.

Nesta99
16/08/2016, 12:35 PM
under John Cleary...Theres only so much you can take.


Leave John Cleary alone - he was a top class cup final *cough* penalty taker!!

Mister X
16/08/2016, 6:07 PM
well for starters, I guess your entire opinion is pretty much invalid as you haven't been attending matches and have been left relying on a mixture of reports


Wasn't at the game last night as I'm away at the moment




the level of celebration and faux optimism is fairly sickening in my opinion.

As for the forced positivity you have eluded to, I myself have noticed a certain few of the fan base have been staying positive all season and knocking others for being negative but its only now when the majority of the negativity is gone, you then say that the positivity in the camp is fairly sickening. Maybe you and these people of the same opinion should take a look at themselves too as you are obviously very deluded if you feel that fans should stay indifferent and in my opinion the only sicking thing is the fact that this group of fans always have to go against the grain.

Town Legend
16/08/2016, 7:44 PM
thanks very much you and your comrades for ruining Section O hope you can live with yourselves..


Ah now lads come on, can we not just let by gones be by gones. We all know Section O was dying a slow death. Maybe now is the time for remaining members gather together and recruit new blood and maybe a year or two down the line the Phoenix can rise from the ashes.

chickennuggets
16/08/2016, 8:15 PM
well for starters, I guess your entire opinion is pretty much invalid as you haven't been attending matches and have been left relying on a mixture of reports







As for the forced positivity you have eluded to, I myself have noticed a certain few of the fan base have been staying positive all season and knocking others for being negative but its only now when the majority of the negativity is gone, you then say that the positivity in the camp is fairly sickening. Maybe you and these people of the same opinion should take a look at themselves too as you are obviously very deluded if you feel that fans should stay indifferent and in my opinion the only sicking thing is the fact that this group of fans always have to go against the grain.

I've been to 90% of games this season. And now I'm on my holidays. But good man, throw everything and maybe something will stick.
The forced positivity is ridiculous to say the least. Nothing has changed in the past week bar the assistant manager is now the caretaker manager. It's not as if we've signed five great players and have a brilliant mind at the helm. Now I'm all for positivity, and I haven't said a negative word publicly once this season as I don't feel it achieves a lot especially given our core group of supporters, but the way some people have gone on since the weekend is laughable.
I'd love to be on here saying great things about everyone and everything. But I can't. There's very little to be cheerful about when it comes to the club right now, on or off the pitch. But I felt the need to say something when certain people are on their high horses. Just because you roar and shout on Facebook and Foot every week doesn't mean you don't care. I wish people could open their eyes and wind their necks in. Using their brains wouldn't hurt either before arming themselves with keyboards.

redarmyfaction
16/08/2016, 8:15 PM
thanks very much you and your comrades for ruining Section O hope you can live with yourselves..

How did they wreck it?

Town Legend
16/08/2016, 8:27 PM
I've been to 90% of games this season. And now I'm on my holidays. But good man, throw everything and maybe something will stick.
The forced positivity is ridiculous to say the least. Nothing has changed in the past week bar the assistant manager is now the caretaker manager. It's not as if we've signed five great players and have a brilliant mind at the helm. Now I'm all for positivity, and I haven't said a negative word publicly once this season as I don't feel it achieves a lot especially given our core group of supporters, but the way some people have gone on since the weekend is laughable.
I'd love to be on here saying great things about everyone and everything. But I can't. There's very little to be cheerful about when it comes to the club right now, one or off the pitch. But I felt the need to say something when certain people are on their high horses. Just because you roar and shout on Facebook and Foot every week doesn't mean you don't care. I wish people could open their eyes and wind their necks in. Using their brains wouldn't hurt either before arming themselves with keyboards.

Were you there last night? I was, and I attended all home and majority of away games including Wexford last week. There was definitely a change in mood with the fans. I think most fans have accepted that we are as good as relegated. Last night for the first time in a long time I see effort been put in by the team. Cronin gave a start to our new midfielder and he did well for the minutes he played. We were very unlucky to lose as Simon hit the post and had another disallowed for a marginal off side. For the last few minutes Cronin threw our big centre half up front to try and nick a draw, something which TC never did.

We will be playing First Division football next year, we will have a new manager next year and I'm positive that there will be changes at board level regarding agm and hopefully relationships will be patched up between the board and supporters. So there's every reason to be a bit optimistic for next season.

De Town
16/08/2016, 8:30 PM
How did they wreck it?

I'm a little disgusted with myself for getting involved in this online, because it's ridiculously childish, but...

<Mod snip, Be civil FFS> If a person or group of people would rather not be associated with another person or group of people, the natural thing to do with be to move away from them or not spend time with them. However, Martinho II, as well as a few others, are the ones who've left Section O and have situated themselves in other areas of the ground. That's their decision, I've no beef with that, they can do what they want. What I do have beef with is the same people then complaining that those who still sit/stand around Section O are the ones who killed it off. One of those who've deserted Section O, and has on a number of occasions stated online that Section O is dead, is more than happy to use the Section O social media pages for his own benefit in promoting his own website that is full of his own LTFC related views. If it's so dead in his opinion, I'm not sure he should still be using the aforementioned pages for his own benefit.

Again, it's childish stuff, but I suppose that's what Internet forums are for, right?

redarmyfaction
16/08/2016, 8:48 PM
Ya, that's what they are for, but for balance can we have Marty's side of things?

outspoken
16/08/2016, 8:53 PM
Look lads section O died for one reason and one reason only the numbers aren't there. Even last year flying high in the PD we were getting the same 14-16 lads over there and no matter how hard they tried to sing or booze up before games the noise just didn't add up to much. Same with this talk of the supporters club or section O not running busses. I tried to run one to all the games at the start of the season but I wasn't even getting 3 or 4 names so simply called time on doing it after 4 seasons I think it was. Time to move on and focus on next season should we go down now as many expect.

redarmyfaction
16/08/2016, 9:12 PM
Football supporters groups have nothing on communist revolutionaries when it comes to splitting on the finest points of doctrine.

Paul Cook might be looking for a job pretty soon , Pompey beat again and 5 adrift after 3 games, prolly best best resourced club in league two. You never know he might be looking for a fixer upper.

chickennuggets
16/08/2016, 9:30 PM
Were you there last night? I was, and I attended all home and majority of away games including Wexford last week. There was definitely a change in mood with the fans. I think most fans have accepted that we are as good as relegated. Last night for the first time in a long time I see effort been put in by the team. Cronin gave a start to our new midfielder and he did well for the minutes he played. We were very unlucky to lose as Simon hit the post and had another disallowed for a marginal off side. For the last few minutes Cronin threw our big centre half up front to try and nick a draw, something which TC never did.

We will be playing First Division football next year, we will have a new manager next year and I'm positive that there will be changes at board level regarding agm and hopefully relationships will be patched up between the board and supporters. So there's every reason to be a bit optimistic for next season.

As I said, I wasn't there last night. And I take your point regarding some moves made by Cronin during the game. I heard about all that. But isn't that what a caretaker manager facing relegation does? Throw the kitchen sink? Try to shake it up? I think we all agree that a change should have been made earlier but it wasn't until now. And we can do nothing about that. But still week after week up until now, Facebook and Foot has been full of negativity. From management, to players, to the board, to the people of the town. Longford is a small town and Longford Town is a small club with a limited reach in terms of fans. If I was someone who didn't go to games, why would I bother, after reading that stuff. In that regard, I'm speaking more about social media, rather than a niche football forum like Foot. The same people who post this stuff then complain about poor attendances and the people of the town not backing the club? Surely you can see my point? This overreaction now is good for no-one but I'd accept it if I hadn't seen all the guff that came beforehand. That's what I mean by it being sickening.
I generally try to stay away from Town-related stuff online. It does me no good. I'll have to renew my efforts in future.

Town Legend
16/08/2016, 9:39 PM
As I said, I wasn't there last night. And I take your point regarding some moves made by Cronin during the game. I heard about all that. But isn't that what a caretaker manager facing relegation does? Throw the kitchen sink? Try to shake it up? I think we all agree that a change should have been made earlier but it wasn't until now. And we can do nothing about that. But still week after week up until now, Facebook and Foot has been full of negativity. From management, to players, to the board, to the people of the town. Longford is a small town and Longford Town is a small club with a limited reach in terms of fans. If I was someone who didn't go to games, why would I bother, after reading that stuff. In that regard, I'm speaking more about social media, rather than a niche football forum like Foot. The same people who post this stuff then complain about poor attendances and the people of the town not backing the club? Surely you can see my point? This overreaction now is good for no-one but I'd accept it if I hadn't seen all the guff that came beforehand. That's what I mean by it being sickening.
I generally try to stay away from Town-related stuff online. It does me no good. I'll have to renew my efforts in future.

Fair point.

Acornvilla
16/08/2016, 9:47 PM
The goings on of Section O sounds like some sort of crap(ier) episode of Hollyoaks.

Mister X
16/08/2016, 9:48 PM
I find it humours that the only person so far I have encountered who thinks it’s an overreaction is the very person who wasn’t at the game.

I agree there has been lots of negativity this season but the majority of it is the truth! As the saying go there is no smoke without fire.
Why should fans stay muzzled or paint everything hunky dory while the simple fact remains, its not! I know personally that id much rather be part of something where I could express my view, regardless positive or negative without it being chastised.

Lastly, this small club mentality is a farce in my opinion. some of the results last season may have flattered us in the league table but why should we not strive to be the best we can be and stop using this term as a cop out.

Mister X
16/08/2016, 10:03 PM
Just because there isn't a barrage of drama queen tweets and statuses coming from all people, it doesn't mean they think everything is OK.

Some people prefer to convey more of their life on social media platforms than others.
This I'm afraid is the world we live in today and I wish you well in your 'war' against this as somethings unfortunately are just beyond our control

chickennuggets
16/08/2016, 10:10 PM
I find it humours that the only person so far I have encountered who thinks it’s an overreaction is the very person who wasn’t at the game.

I agree there has been lots of negativity this season but the majority of it is the truth! As the saying go there is no smoke without fire.
Why should fans stay muzzled or paint everything hunky dory while the simple fact remains, its not! I know personally that id much rather be part of something where I could express my view, regardless positive or negative without it being chastised.

Lastly, this small club mentality is a farce in my opinion. some of the results last season may have flattered us in the league table but why should we not strive to be the best we can be and stop using this term as a cop out.

Deleted that post by mistake. Let me try again..

No-one is saying anyone shouldn't be able to express their opinion or have their say. I haven't heard one person say that all season. I think what we could all do without is the dramatics. It sounds like you feel it's an us v them situation, like it's the second Cold War or something. If that's they way you feel, congratulations, you've won. Because there is no opposition. Just because some people don't fill the internet with drama queen posts and statuses, doesn't mean they're happy or OK with things. To think otherwise is just misguided and childish. Is that what you honestly believe? Or what you want to believe because it fits your narrative better?

chickennuggets
16/08/2016, 10:12 PM
Some people prefer to convey more of their life on social media platforms than others.
This I'm afraid is the world we live in today and I wish you well in your 'war' against this as somethings unfortunately are just beyond our control

Apologies about the original message being deleted. Genuine mistake. Tried to remember it as well as I could in the next message.

chickennuggets
16/08/2016, 10:14 PM
I don't think you understood my Cold War analogy..

bennocelt
16/08/2016, 11:59 PM
You'll never forgive him? My god. You'd swear he'd done a Nick Leeson or something instead of banning a drum and only keeping you in the Premier Division for two years with a First Division squad.

Funnily enough he also kept them in the first division for about two years with a squad that should have walked the first easy, took him 5 years in all...

Charlie Darwin
17/08/2016, 12:32 AM
Funnily enough he also kept them in the first division for about two years with a squad that should have walked the first easy, took him 5 years in all...
Grranted I wasn't following them week-in, week-out but I don't really think there was any FD winner you could say they had such a better squad than that they should have walked it. There were certainly times when they got themselves in a position where they should have finished it off and didn't though.

dahamsta
18/08/2016, 6:52 AM
Folks, get this thread back on topic now or I'll bin it.

Titan
19/08/2016, 8:06 PM
Alan Mathews appointed manager according to the Longford Twitter tonight

KeepersBall
19/08/2016, 10:17 PM
A decent man and a decent manager

nigel-harps1954
20/08/2016, 12:42 AM
He's no Tony Cousins.

Martinho II
20/08/2016, 1:28 AM
He's no Tony Cousins.

hes ways classier than Tony Cousins! I always got on well with him and spoke to him over the years whenever he was scoutin for Shels in Longford! I am delighted he has resumed duty with us. I thought it wasnt goin to happen considering the board hasnt changed much in nine years but he must have bein impressed! I would like to see Gary Cronin stay with us as it was Mathews that signed him for us in 05 and he was there for another season after that.

sadloserkid
20/08/2016, 6:15 AM
I always got on well with him...

Not sure this should be one of the official criteria for selecting your new manager. :)

strokestownroad
20/08/2016, 8:02 AM
Matthews had success with us before however the cliché never go back to an old lover springs to mind. His record since he left Longford has been very poor considering the calibre of club he has managed and the resources available to him. It will be interesting to see if the mood in the camp picks up with him at the helm. I'm very surprised that he was allowed back considering that his departure from the club was far from amicable

Hulsey
20/08/2016, 9:08 AM
Be carefull what you wish for. He signed some absolute dross when he was with Bray and played awful football. I know he was successful with Longford last time but that was a long time ago. The last few jobs he's had point to him being a spent force.
Cue miraculous turnaround at Longford...

Darklordsbane
21/08/2016, 11:20 AM
I hope Mathews has his own back room staff, assistant, etc, after last nights dross I will be more than happy for new blood running the show, it cannot be any worse. I hope Mathews was watching he will have seen first hand the pretenders who go through the motions but produce nothing and the ones who actually do want to play not just collect wages

outspoken
21/08/2016, 12:11 PM
I hope Mathews has his own back room staff, assistant, etc, after last nights dross I will be more than happy for new blood running the show, it cannot be any worse. I hope Mathews was watching he will have seen first hand the pretenders who go through the motions but produce nothing and the ones who actually do want to play not just collect wages

Didn't see him there last night which is a shame becuase as you said there are some absolute pretenders in that team. Their attitude last night stunk of why should we bother trying hard for this guy since he's not our manager anymore. The least interested display of football I've ever seen. Midfield is a disgrace

Martinho II
21/08/2016, 2:11 PM
Didn't see him there last night which is a shame becuase as you said there are some absolute pretenders in that team. Their attitude last night stunk of why should we bother trying hard for this guy since he's not our manager anymore. The least interested display of football I've ever seen. Midfield is a disgrace

yep never at the races. according to paul buttner in the sun today Mathews was at the match!hope his eyes are opened!

outspoken
21/08/2016, 7:07 PM
yep never at the races. according to paul buttner in the sun today Mathews was at the match!hope his eyes are opened!

Must have been hiding, hopefully he saw a certain midfielder pull of a tackle for corks second goal

marinobohs
24/08/2016, 9:51 AM
Sorry for Cousins but pretty inevitable given results this season. Always surprised me that expectations seemed high in Longford, would have thought staying up was as good as it would have got (at best).


Mattews should at least make them more solid although a thing of beauty ? maybe not.

outspoken
24/08/2016, 11:32 AM
Sorry for Cousins but pretty inevitable given results this season. Always surprised me that expectations seemed high in Longford, would have thought staying up was as good as it would have got (at best).


Mattews should at least make them more solid although a thing of beauty ? maybe not.

There seems to be a perception out there that town fans have these huge expectations. That's BS. Why wouldn't we expect to finish above amateur Wexford side, above a newly promoted Harps or a Bray team that was in crisis for long periods. Il say it again, anyone could have guided that 2014 team to promotion, the sponsorship deal we had then put Premier clubs to shame never mind the teams we were up against in the FD.

Martinho II
24/08/2016, 4:31 PM
There seems to be a perception out there that town fans have these huge expectations. That's BS. Why wouldn't we expect to finish above amateur Wexford side, above a newly promoted Harps or a Bray team that was in crisis for long periods. Il say it again, anyone could have guided that 2014 team to promotion, the sponsorship deal we had then put Premier clubs to shame never mind the teams we were up against in the FD.

strangely enough I was looking thro old match reports from cousins first season in 10 and he had the same probs then that he had when leavin us.. players not playin for him tactics not great fans not happy ,poor results. it wasnt to the extent that it was this season but thought I would make the point!

outspoken
24/08/2016, 4:53 PM
strangely enough I was looking thro old match reports from cousins first season in 10 and he had the same probs then that he had when leavin us.. players not playin for him tactics not great fans not happy ,poor results. it wasnt to the extent that it was this season but thought I would make the point!

He deserves credit for spoofing his way through 7 seasons, a fantastic achievement that may never be matched