Olamide Shodipo M Lincoln (loan from QPR) b.1997

[Deckydee]

Mide Shodipo has committed his future to #QPR (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/qpr?source=feed_text&epa=HASHTAG&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARA-kwZM4d0uzQHhVzFdVt835x1OFDJ6OUT_NH5TcJDOxqtq1xyb4K NelQC8oY8znDFj8h36vpnM6siM_-D7eqSUOkoKTKiyzFqeInY0EcUMXF3jS40V7CXC1vkkmou-PkH6scPM5oUMkL5N_607S8zScuDVQTQ9qyayvLXq6Fme5ceIqc BAyVluA14I8htSUUbJCnoCweposXaS0MMng8KbtRLOaZSG0oxh fbGmayS4e0Q0llCAlUvJ7EUOsOykI_ic5QD41imNPcPPioyiXG QCMry51QQIG5vuZd8q0p3dkt_N0d5E-B6rumBbYYTIetqTT9hhXgZDxFWxzZBKoOMA4hbe4EL0Rs5ZnVx Uf-okneKbTp9hQg&__tn__=%2ANK-R)!

http://qprng.rs/ShodipoExtension (http://qprng.rs/ShodipoExtension?fbclid=IwAR1-UtzIm7RicMTIG3LP-oWF_Azx5OYUZjf4n6dOmELNsv_lxb6G3KJxnLA)

[samhaydenjr]

Mide Shodipo has committed his future to #QPR (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/qpr?source=feed_text&epa=HASHTAG&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARA-kwZM4d0uzQHhVzFdVt835x1OFDJ6OUT_NH5TcJDOxqtq1xyb4K NelQC8oY8znDFj8h36vpnM6siM_-D7eqSUOkoKTKiyzFqeInY0EcUMXF3jS40V7CXC1vkkmou-PkH6scPM5oUMkL5N_607S8zScuDVQTQ9qyayvLXq6Fme5ceIqc BAyVluA14I8htSUUbJCnoCweposXaS0MMng8KbtRLOaZSG0oxh fbGmayS4e0Q0llCAlUvJ7EUOsOykI_ic5QD41imNPcPPioyiXG QCMry51QQIG5vuZd8q0p3dkt_N0d5E-B6rumBbYYTIetqTT9hhXgZDxFWxzZBKoOMA4hbe4EL0Rs5ZnVx Uf-okneKbTp9hQg&__tn__=%2ANK-R)!

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Hopefully he can re-establish himself next season - we could still do with some depth in midfield

[samhaydenjr]

Started today and played an hour: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48081779

[Deckydee]

Started for QPR yesterday in pre-season friendly against Oxford > https://www.qpr.co.uk/fixtures/first-team/2019/oxford-united-v-qpr/

[Deckydee]

Going nowhere! > https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/going-nowhere-far-from-it-warburton-keen-to-keep-qpr-man?fbclid=IwAR2UMseD6mTCHta7byWBCY6BRWLQa7WsScJNI Atf-d0G-aJC9Xxgp0PpmlE#.XURSCl2eNvw.facebook

[Trequartista20]

Joins Oxford on loan.

[samhaydenjr]

Well that was a good move! Came on after 86 minutes and scored the winner two minutes later: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54519069

[elatedscum]

Nice goal:

https://youtu.be/xqv8UAlhCyQ

Assists of other goals came from: Ex-Ireland u17 Marcus McGuane (not sure if he’s eligible under new rules), ex-u21 Anthony Forde. Recent convert Mark Sykes played in midfield and former u21 Liam Kelly was an unused sub... Plus, there were always rumours that Cam Branagan was eligible but not sure it was ever confirmed...

Oxford might be the team to root for in League 1 this season...

[samhaydenjr]

Scores again two minutes after coming on as Oxford won 3-1 against Gavin Bazunu's Rochdale (assist for his goal from the aforementioned Marcus McGuane): https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54700575

[samhaydenjr]

Well this is a loan spell that's working out well - Shodipo scored his fifth of the season and third in five games, winning and converting a penalty as Oxford beat Plymouth 3-2: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55406711

[ColourfulPeanut]

I'd much rather give Shodipo a go as an option off the bench than ever see Daryl Horgan another look in at this point. Good to see a player in a bit of form at any level.

Still young enough to develop too, especially since this is his first consistent run of games he's gotten in his career.

[Charlie Darwin]

I'd much rather give Shodipo a go as an option off the bench than ever see Daryl Horgan another look in at this point. Good to see a player in a bit of form at any level.

Still young enough to develop too, especially since this is his first consistent run of games he's gotten in his career.
What on earth has Horgan done wrong? He's actually created things, which is a step up for Ireland.

[nigel-harps1954]

Don't understand the hatred for Horgan either. He's been one of the bright spots of an otherwise poor run of games in 2020.

[Eirambler]

I don't think Horgan has done anything wrong as such, but he has a level that he won't ever go past and if he's getting picked for Ireland it's a sign that were regressing rather than a sign that Horgan has suddenly improved to senior international standard.

My own view would be that if we find ourselves again in a position where Horgan is in contention for caps due to injuries or Covid or whatever I would rather see a younger player like Shodipo (or Ogbene, Scully or Harness) get the run out to see what they've got rather than cap Horgan again.

[irishfan86]

Every time Horgan is selected I groan, and almost every single time he exceeds my expectations.

We have problems but he doesn’t strike me as one of them. His role out wide is to create chances and he’s one of the few we have who has actually been doing that lately.

[Charlie Darwin]

I don't think Horgan has done anything wrong as such, but he has a level that he won't ever go past and if he's getting picked for Ireland it's a sign that were regressing rather than a sign that Horgan has suddenly improved to senior international standard.

My own view would be that if we find ourselves again in a position where Horgan is in contention for caps due to injuries or Covid or whatever I would rather see a younger player like Shodipo (or Ogbene, Scully or Harness) get the run out to see what they've got rather than cap Horgan again.
But if he's playing better than those guys then what is the point? The international team is not a development side for guys in their mid-20s like Shodipo and Harness who don't play at the level Horgan is.

In general, I don't see why people don't like Horgan. He has attributes that no Irish player other than McGeady has had in 20 years. He can take a man on in close quarters and dig out crosses at angles our other players aren't capable of.

[ColourfulPeanut]

What on earth has Horgan done wrong? He's actually created things, which is a step up for Ireland.
What has he created? I don't remember him crafting a single chance in the recent games he's played. I don't think he offers anything and isn't at the level of international football.

Not saying we act as a development for players like Shodipo but if he's performing then I personally would like to see him involved and given a chance rather than Horgan, who I don't rate.

Kenny has shown he's happy to go with complete inexperience by starting Adam Idah in competitive games, who now has more senior international starts than club starts. I don't see the problem in giving players like Shodipo a run.

[Charlie Darwin]

What has he created? I don't remember him crafting a single chance in the recent games he's played.
Well then you need to watch the games again.

I wouldn't be against giving players like Shodipo a game if it was warranted but not sure why it requires pretending the guys above him haven't got anything to offer.

[Eirambler]

But if he's playing better than those guys then what is the point? The international team is not a development side for guys in their mid-20s like Shodipo and Harness who don't play at the level Horgan is.


Is Horgan playing at that high a level though? He doesn't seem to stand out in the worst team in the Championship, before that he was in and out of the Hibs team, who would be a league 1 standard side, who were happy enough to get him off the wage bill, and I don't know that he's been anything other than decent and no more when he has played for Ireland.

I would say, based on club form in the last two or three years, Harness has done a lot more to deserve a run than Horgan has.

[ColourfulPeanut]

Well then you need to watch the games again.

I wouldn't be against giving players like Shodipo a game if it was warranted but not sure why it requires pretending the guys above him haven't got anything to offer.
That's your opinion and you didn't answer my question. You can arrogantly write off any argument with "watch the games again"

What chance did Horgan create? He ran about a lot but was being careless in possession is my lasting impression of him. The lad loves a blind little flick that consistently gives the ball away.

[Charlie Darwin]

That's your opinion and you didn't answer my question. You can arrogantly write off any argument with "watch the games again"

What chance did Horgan create? He ran about a lot but was being careless in possession is my lasting impression of him. The lad loves a blind little flick that consistently gives the ball away.
Off the top of my head he made a sitter that James Collins should have buried against Bulgaria. That's without going back and checking other games, where he was our most likely creative outlet.

[Eirambler]

Shodipo has just scored a cracker past Kieran o'hara for Oxford today. O'Hara really poor for the first Oxford goal but nobody would save that one from Shodipo.

Adds a second now as well. Poor enough standard of opposition but he's doing well.

[Stuttgart88]

Off the top of my head he made a sitter that James Collins should have buried against Bulgaria. That's without going back and checking other games, where he was our most likely creative outlet.Collins put a header over and tried an instinctive shot that was saved at the near post. I'd have said neither was a sitter, but the header probably was the easier of the two. Is that the one you're referring to?

[Charlie Darwin]

Yeah, the header. For a striker, it wasn't a difficult chance.

[Stuttgart88]

Is Horgan playing at that high a level though? He doesn't seem to stand out in the worst team in the Championship, before that he was in and out of the Hibs team, who would be a league 1 standard side, who were happy enough to get him off the wage bill, and I don't know that he's been anything other than decent and no more when he has played for Ireland.

I would say, based on club form in the last two or three years, Harness has done a lot more to deserve a run than Horgan has.I hate this "what level is he playing at?' question. Horgan has done better than others so far under Kenny. He can create space for a cross from nothing, can beat a man, can carry the ball, can go inside and out and just generally offers an option. I prefer to judge players on what I see and I think he's been more than decent when few others have been. He has tended to start games well and then fade though. For me he's a good bench option for when we need creativity.

[Eirambler]

That's fair enough, but then how do you compare him to someone who hasn't played for us like Harness or Shodipo? We don't know until we give them a try. Horgan has been fine but hasn't particularly improved us I think. And we really need to improve from what we have produced in the last 3 years.

[irishfan86]

I’m going to throw out something radical — what if we can suggest Horgan has actually been a pleasant surprise AND we need to look at some of these young players? In the absence of proper friendlies the Qatar games are the appropriate place to have a look at these guys (assuming they don’t force Kenny’s hand with incredible club form).

[samhaydenjr]

Injury-time winner for Shodipo tonight, unfortunately at the expense of Gavin Bazunu, whose error led to it. That's eight goals in twenty appearances, eight of which were off the bench. Seven league goals means he's joint 13th scorer in League One this season - I guess Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink was right about him: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55713919

[Trequartista20]

Another goal today.

Double figures for the season now.

Arguably having a better season than Horgan.

[Olé Olé]

Another goal today.

Double figures for the season now.

Arguably having a better season than Horgan.
He's a level below. Apples and oranges. Shodipo has not proven himself at Championship level- yet.

[Eirambler]

To be fair, neither has Horgan.

[Trequartista20]

He's a level below. Apples and oranges. Shodipo has not proven himself at Championship level- yet.

They play in a similar position, and I said 'arguably', only in reference to the debate above.

And have we established that Horgan's a 'proven' Championship player? I'm not so sure that we have. Wycombe are rock bottom, 13 points from safety and with a GD 14 worse than their nearest rival. And I'd suggest that was largely down to the lack of 'proven' Championship quality in their team.

[Charlie Darwin]

Well Horgan has 60+ Championship appearances so he seems fairly established.

[Eirambler]

Well Horgan has 60+ Championship appearances so he seems fairly established.

I'm not sure about that. He never even managed a 50% appearance record in any of his seasons at Preston. This year he's playing in a Championship team in name only, Wycombe are a league 1 standard side.

I saw a lot of Horgan up close at Hibs. He always looked like a player that was about to turn into something special but was never able to kick on as seemed like he would. Rarely finished games that he started and most of his best work was coming in off the bench. And the Hibs teams he played in were League 1 standard at best. He should have been a standout at that level but he just wasn't. To put it into context Jonny Hayes was far more successful in Scotland than Horgan but you never hear him being suggested for a call up.

If it hadn't been for his stint in the League of Ireland years ago I don't think anyone would be calling for him to be picked, being honest.

[Olé Olé]

Who is calling for Horgan to be picked? There's a queue that Horgan is well down. He moved up the queue due to COVID complications and injury and did okay. There's nobody screaming for him to be starting or even in the squad based on some form of romantic support for the LOI. Come on.

[Eirambler]

The last two pages of the thread include a number of calls for his continued selection in the squad.

[Olé Olé]

The last two pages of the thread include a number of calls for his continued selection in the squad.

Okay. I went back through the two pages of this thread and I saw a couple to faint compliments towards his contributions but nothing like "a number of calls for his continued selection in the squad."

[tetsujin1979]

He did play well when selected, even though he wasn't in the initial squad, maybe Kenny can get something out of him.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the squad in March, but I wouldn't select him myself

[Olé Olé]

He did play well when selected, even though he wasn't in the initial squad, maybe Kenny can get something out of him.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the squad in March, but I wouldn't select him myself

My view too and probably the view of most of the posters that have been positive towards him in the last two pages.

[Charlie Darwin]

I'm not sure about that. He never even managed a 50% appearance record in any of his seasons at Preston. This year he's playing in a Championship team in name only, Wycombe are a league 1 standard side.

I saw a lot of Horgan up close at Hibs. He always looked like a player that was about to turn into something special but was never able to kick on as seemed like he would. Rarely finished games that he started and most of his best work was coming in off the bench. And the Hibs teams he played in were League 1 standard at best. He should have been a standout at that level but he just wasn't. To put it into context Jonny Hayes was far more successful in Scotland than Horgan but you never hear him being suggested for a call up.

If it hadn't been for his stint in the League of Ireland years ago I don't think anyone would be calling for him to be picked, being honest.
But Hayes was called up when he was at Aberdeen before? I don't think Horgan is a world class player but any strength but he does have abilities no other Irish player has right now bar McGeady, and that's obviously useful to a coach. I wouldn't be fussed if McGeady was called up ahead of Horgan, for the record.

[samhaydenjr]

Just getting back to Shodipo himself, it is a tricky one - on the one hand, he is playing in League One, often only as a sub and, with the Serbia game only seven weeks away, surely it would be folly to give him a debut cap in that game. On the other hand, he's on a remarkable run of form - ten goals in the season, with eight in the last twelve games. Plus if you add up the minutes he's actually played, it's closer to ten goals in thirteen games. If we wait for him to start playing at Championship level again to cap him, we may not get the chance to use him in a qualifying international until 2023, even if he makes a big breakthrough to the QPR first team in August - so if we wanted to be daring, that first friendly against Qatar is starting to look like a potential first international for him.

In particular, he seems to have a penchant for scoring off the bench, which could be a handy trait if we're chasing a point against Portugal or on the verge of blowing a playoff place by drawing with Luxembourg

[samhaydenjr]

And he's only gone and scored again - eleventh of the season for Shodipo, which makes him joint top scorer for Oxford:https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54850475

[Eirambler]

Impressive considering he is not a striker and he rarely plays the full 90 for them. Still only 23, so could be a useful player for us yet at senior level at some point.

[John83]

Scoring for fun in the English third tier? That's more than we can say for Troy Parrott, who's in some people's proposed teams for Serbia. He'll need keep at it after moving up a tier before he's really an option - as insipid as some of our midfield play is, it's worth remembering that Paul Green was a beast in the Championship and international football is a step up from that - but he'd hardly be the first player to make it for us after climbing the divisions. Mark Kinsella was around his age when he stepped up from Colchester (4th tier) to Charlton (2nd) and then got promoted with them.

[samhaydenjr]

If he keeps this up, we'll have to start calling him... wait for it... Golamide Shodipo!

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[Charlie Darwin]

If he keeps this up, we'll have to start calling him... wait for it... Golamide Shodipo!

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[samhaydenjr]

Hasn't been as prolific in recent months but opened the scoring today, to bring him to double figures in the league: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56960299

[samhaydenjr]

Finishes his loan spell with a flourish, with yet another goal off the bench, too late to save Oxford from defeat - finishes with thirteen in all competitions for the season: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57110428

[Deckydee]

#QPR (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/qpr?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZWP5OYs45rAKlLz0uB1Jlpw14UZ_gI2Wwjtzl4-KclyhXwZugC9FM8TiJpRH23S23scAPhnXbAchMInXFqy8h7HvO 46X12JMULHERukBLW5XNAH9wzEExpJQ6CynfP6ar9GBoYMRBL4 8W62Mv9ChOHoZcjHAUG6AUhEU99q0c7iy8BN57UkJULgf-s41ohC6ks&__tn__=*NK-R) winger Olamide Shodipo has joined Sheffield Wednesday on a season-long loan.

Full details here: https://bit.ly/ShodipoLoan (https://bit.ly/ShodipoLoan?fbclid=IwAR14EIJpfnWwWkgWe6r1JpwXMFM22 3Eauv4CcEgs5EmTqYQgFxk7nvMechg)

[John83]

Pity it's not a level higher, but if he does it again for a second League 1 side he'll have a fairly established reputation.