Limerick Desmond League 2016/17

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Friday, May 5th

Premier Division
Broadford Utd (2) 4 Athea Utd (1) 1

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Premier Division
Abbeyfeale Utd 7 Killeaney 0
Broadford Utd 1 Newcastle West Rovers 0
Glin Rovers 2 Ballingarry 0
Rathkeale 6 Newcastle West 1
Division 1
Abbeyfeale Utd B 0 Kildimo Utd 2
AK Utd 1 Glantine 1
Feenagh 4 Breska Rovers 1
Pallaskenry 0 Shannonside 4
Rathkeale B 0 Granagh Utd 4
(Granagh are champions, Shannonside runners up)
(Feenagh A and Rathkeale B in relegation playoff)
Division 2
Bally Rovers 3 Newcastle West Rovers B 1
Ballysteen 1 Adare Utd 1
Glin Rovers B 0 Shountrade 1
Rockhill Rovers 0 St Itas 5
Division 3 League Cup
Feenagh B 1 Ferry Rangers 2
Carrig Celtic B 3 Glantine B 0
Creeves Celtic 5 Newcastle West B 3

[Cruyff]

Hearing talk of a possible 3 x 12 team divisions next season, getting rid of Division 3. 22 league games a season.
Only speculation yet

[Shearer]

Limerick Desmond League Review 7/5/2017. (http://stoppagetime.ie/limerick-desmond-league/jason/limerick-desmond-league-review-752017/)

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Friday, May 12th

Youths Division 2 League Cup Final (et & pens if required)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Askeaton 730pm, Clounreask, (J Molyneaux, L O’Connor, T Fitzpatrick, 4th official tba)

Saturday, May 13th

Youths Division 1 League Cup (90 min)
Broadford Utd V Rathkeale 230 (J Roche)

Premier Division League Cup Final (et & pens if required)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Rathkeale AFC 7pm, Clounreask, (P O’Connor, P King, G O’Connor, 4th official tba

Sunday, May 14th

Premier Division
Broadford Utd V Newcastle West 1130 (D Wallace)

Division 2
Askeaton V Rockhill Rovers 330 (T Fitzmaurice)
Newcastle West Rvs B V Ballysteen 330 (S Hartnett)
Shountrade V Bally Rovers 330 (G O’Connor)
St Itas V Glin Rovers B 330 (P O’Brien)

Division 3 League Cup (90 min)
Creeves Celtic V Ferry Rangers 230 (E Noonan)
Knockaderry V Carrig Celtic B 230 (P Manning)
Newcastle West B V Feenagh B 230 (P O’Donnell)

Friday, May 19th

Division 2 League Cup Final (et & pens if required)
Askeaton V Shountrade 730pm, Clounreask.

Premier Division
Ballingarry V Athea Utd 7pm
Carrig Celtic V Newcastle West Rovers 7pm
Glin Rovers V Killeaney 7pm
Newcastle West V Abbeyfeale Utd 7pm
Rathkeale V Broadford Utd 7pm

Advance Notice

Saturday, May 20th

Desmond Youths Cup Final (et & pens if required)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Askeaton 7pm, Clounreask

Sunday, May 21st

Division 1 Relegation Playoff (et & pens if required)
Feenagh A V Rathkeale B, (time and venue tba)

[Shearer]

Limerick Desmond League Preview 14/5/2017 (http://stoppagetime.ie/limerick-desmond-league/jason/limerick-desmond-league-preview-1452017/)
The preview is fine and early this week as there's only nine fixtures. Should have next week's one up just as early as some of next week's fixtures are already up.

[Gazza29]

I see that a good few of the other leagues are naming their team of the season. Shearer u are probably in the best position to do this but I'll have a crack off it 4 4 2 - Greaney (Broadford), Roche (Abbey), McAuliffe (Broadford), O'Shea (Rathkeale), Hannigan (Broadford), Hennessy (Rathkeale), Enright (Rathkeale), Brosnan (Broadford), Larkin (Broadford), T Smith (Abbey) Nash (Rathkeale) A few very unfortunate omissions Chris Smith, O'Connor and Joe Kelliher all Abbey, Mike O Keeffe Rovers, Egan, King, O'Brien S Brosnan Lynch all Broadford, Hartnett A O'Shea Rathkeale, K Murphy Athea and T Culhane, Darren and Paul Sheehan Glin. What do ye think

[fanaticfan]

Two players from abbey who are on the Irish squad on the bench?

[Gazza29]

Two players from abbey who are on the Irish squad on the bench?
I never said it was perfect, Chris Smith particularly unlucky, but Sean O'Shea and Joe McAuliffe would also have been unlucky if they were not picked. Look at the defensive records of those teams. What's ur 11

[Shearer]

I don't get to as many games as I would like so you're all probably knowledgeable than I am. Nevertheless I'll try and throw together an XI.

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Youths Division 2 League Cup Final
Askeaton 7 Abbeyfeale Utd 1

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Premier Division League Cup Final
Abbeyfeale Utd 2 Rathkeale 2 aet. Abbeyfeale won 5-4 on pens

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Premier Division
Broadford Utd 4 Newcastle West 1 (played Saturday, May 13th)

[Shearer]

Quick question lads. Rockhill Rovers gave a walkover to Askeaton yesterday, shouldn't they have been deducted three points and therefore go into ninth position and be relegated? Also it was their third walkover so shouldn't they be thrown out?

[fanaticfan]

Yes they should have. 3 walk overs and you're gone. Don't even know why they have a team. The amount of walkovers they give every year is a joke

[Langerdan007]

Going by the LDFL site they gave 2 walkovers in the league, as ye say 3 and you're thrown out so that doesn't seem to be at issue but their points look wrong alright http://ldfl.leaguerepublic.com/l/results/289428920/1_950051707/239406250///-1.html
They gained 19 points have been deducted 3 already and as you say Shearer they should be now in 9th with another deduction - I would agree also fanatic they're the ultimate W/O team and even playing them in the last month or two of a season they might have anything between 8 and 11 players

Cryuff did you hear anymore on that 12 team division plan??? Seems excessive

22 league games + League Cup + Reidy + Hogan + Desmond + (MJC + FAI Cup *for some teams)
Potential for some teams to have well in excess of 30 games in the year - you wouldn't want much bad weather in a season

[Shearer]

Their third walkover was against Newcastle West B in the Desmond Cup.

[Cruyff]

Going by the LDFL site they gave 2 walkovers in the league, as ye say 3 and you're thrown out so that doesn't seem to be at issue but their points look wrong alright http://ldfl.leaguerepublic.com/l/results/289428920/1_950051707/239406250///-1.html
They gained 19 points have been deducted 3 already and as you say Shearer they should be now in 9th with another deduction - I would agree also fanatic they're the ultimate W/O team and even playing them in the last month or two of a season they might have anything between 8 and 11 players

Cryuff did you hear anymore on that 12 team division plan??? Seems excessive

22 league games + League Cup + Reidy + Hogan + Desmond + (MJC + FAI Cup *for some teams)
Potential for some teams to have well in excess of 30 games in the year - you wouldn't want much bad weather in a season

As far as I can make out it would require Friday and Sunday for the first 2 or 3 weekends. And again 1 or 2 double headers at the end of the season.
Would mean a hectic start and finish to the season alright.
League cups would have to be played Friday nights in Clounreask during the season.

They seem to manage fine in Limerick with 22 games. Jackman Park is flat out hosting the cup competitions, 2 or 3 games a week. Clounreask is woefully under utilised.

I wouldn't mind it especially if it forces the league to use Clounreask more

[Cruyff]

As far as I can make out it would require Friday and Sunday for the first 2 or 3 weekends. And again 1 or 2 double headers at the end of the season.
Would mean a hectic start and finish to the season alright.
League cups would have to be played Friday nights in Clounreask during the season.

They seem to manage fine in Limerick with 22 games. Jackman Park is flat out hosting the cup competitions, 2 or 3 games a week. Clounreask is woefully under utilised.

I wouldn't mind it especially if it forces the league to use Clounreask more

A lot of that is based on dot joining and reading between lines but that would be the general gist of it.

Also a quick note, the Premier league in town has 22 games 4 more than ours and most of the top teams in town go far in the MJC and FAI.
The league in town is well finished.
Yet our league has 3 games left to play plus cup finals. For instance our top team Rathkeale were knocked out of the MJC and FAI early but still aren't finished playing, Janesboro got to the last 8 of the FAI and are finished since Sunday week.
And on top the city Oscar Traynor team went a long way as well which meant further delay.

I think it's more of a league scheduling issue than a weather issue.

If a premier team in the Desmond League ask for a week or 2 off they get it.
Not so easy in a 12 team league, GAA fixtures will no longer dictate when games are played.

[AlanOB]

The only reason the Limerick DL has surmounted its barmy schedule so early is that the powers-that-be mandate an absolutely barmy two-games-a-week schedule for the first couple of months; to the point that half the league is over by October.

This of course leads to a whole host of injury problems, and in one case this season -- a midweek abandonment due to fading light.

In short, I would not recommend it.

[Cruyff]

The only reason the Limerick DL has surmounted its barmy schedule so early is that the powers-that-be mandate an absolutely barmy two-games-a-week schedule for the first couple of months; to the point that half the league is over by October.

This of course leads to a whole host of injury problems, and in one case this season -- a midweek abandonment due to fading light.

In short, I would not recommend it.

That's a very fair summation, I was at the game that was called off and you could see before kick off that night it was going to be a problem.

There were no Desmond League Friday night games this season at all until this Friday.

Desmond League teams don't get as far in outside competitions as a general rule so I think we'd get away with it far better than in the District.

Our premier teams have an awful lot of free weekends as it stands so 4 extra games shouldn't​ burn them out I don't think.

As I say I don't think it should be a problem out here but we'll see I guess. It may not happen that way at all just what I'm hearing.

By the way Alan enjoyed​ your reports all season, outstanding stuff.

[AlanOB]

Thanks, much appreciated.

I accept your point about lesser progress in bigger competitions being a factor, but surely the Desmond League would aim to change that in the future, no?

[Johnnie C]

Fine achievement by Chris Smith in making the Regions Cup squad for Istanbul.

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Friday, May 19th

Division 2 League Cup Final (et & pens)
Askeaton V Shountrade 730pm, Clounreask,
(S Hartnett, L O’Connor, J Molyneaux, 4th official tba)

Premier Division
Ballingarry V Athea Utd 7pm (E Noonan)
Carrig Celtic V Newcastle West Rovers 7pm (J Roche)
Glin Rovers V Killeaney 7pm (G O’Connor)
Newcastle West V Abbeyfeale Utd 7pm (P King)
Rathkeale V Broadford Utd 7pm (T Fitzmaurice)

Saturday, May 20th

Desmond Youths Cup Final (et & pens)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Askeaton 7pm, Clounreask
(D Wallace, L O’Connor, T Fitzpatrick, 4th official tba)

Division 1 Youths League Cup Qualification Playoff (et & pens)
Broadford Utd V GB Rovers 230, (Abbeyfeale Utd Grounds)
(J Roche, P O’Brien, P Manning, 4th official tba)

Sunday, May 21st

Division 1 Relegation Playoff (et & pens)
Feenagh V Rathkeale B, 530pm, Clounreask,
(P King, S Hartnett, J Molyneaux, 4th official tba)

Division 3 League Cup Final (et & pens)
Ferry Rangers V Carrig Celtic B, Clounreask, 2pm
(T Fitzmaurice, T Fitzpatrick, P O’Connor, 4th official tba)

Premier Division
Abbeyfeale Utd V Athea Utd 1130 (P Manning)
Broadford Utd V Glin Rovers 1130 (P O’Brien)
Newcastle West V Ballingarry 1130 (E Noonan)
Newcastle West Rovers V Killeaney 1130 (D Wallace)
Rathkeale V Carrig Celtic 1130 (P O’Connor)

[robotwarsfan]

If it is going to be 12 in each division next year will there be no relegation from premier this season and will 4 teams be going from div 2 to dig 1? Any one have an idea or do you know anything Cruyff if you heard about it

[Shearer]

Limerick Desmond League Preview 21//2017 (http://stoppagetime.ie/limerick-desmond-league/jason/limerick-desmond-league-preview-2152017/)

[last man back]

Any changes to divisions will have to be agreed at the agm I think

[sexyfootball]

Well done Chris Smith, have seen him play a few times over the last couple of seasons and must say he is a very accomplished defender, great in the air, very quick and strong; everything you'd want in a defender.
Fair Play to Rathkeale too they kept up their pace when I thought they'd falter and are within touching distance of the league, win/ draw this evening against Broadford and they'll be celebrating.
The treble dream is over but winning the league could certainly ease the pain for them.

Surprised Declan Nash didn't win the player of the year award, was outstanding this season, fair play to Micheal Brosnan though, very good player also.

[Cruyff]

If it is going to be 12 in each division next year will there be no relegation from premier this season and will 4 teams be going from div 2 to dig 1? Any one have an idea or do you know anything Cruyff if you heard about it

All speculation still, not getting a straight answer from anyone official at the moment. They'll wait and see what newcastlewest do before even speculating on it, also Bally Rovers rebuffed Killeaney's advances to join in told.

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Friday, May 19th

Division 2 League Cup Final
Askeaton 2 Shountrade 2 aet. Askeaton won 4-1 on pens

Premier Division
Ballingarry 1 Athea Utd 3
Carrig Celtic 2 Newcastle West Rovers 1
Glin Rovers 0 Killeaney 1
Newcastle West 3 Abbeyfeale Utd 7
Rathkeale 1 Broadford Utd 2

[fanaticfan]

Word out on the streets is that both Newcastle West clubs are joining together next year. Also heard that it might be Killeaney and Carrig now since bally rovers turned down killeaney

[Johnnie C]

The Awards took place in Rathkeale House Hotel on Wednesday 17th May. The winners of the Awards, voted by their peers, were:

Premier Division: Micheal Brosnan (Broadford Utd)

Division 1: Cathal Naughton (Granagh Utd)

Division 2: Jim Liston (Bally Rovers)

Division 3: James O'Connor (Creeves Celtic)

Youths: Eoin O'Connor (GB Rovers)

The Special Merit Award was presented to John Hogan (Pallaskenry AFC). As well as working for his club, John was a long time member of the Management Committee of the Limerick Desmond Football League where he served with distinction for several decades, fulfilling the roles of Assistant Chairman and Assistant Treasurer along the way.

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Youths Div 1 League Cup Qualification Playoff
GB Rovers 4 Broadford Utd 1
(GB Rovers will play Rathkeale in Div 1 League Cup Final)

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Premier Division (Sunday, May 21st) (second last series)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Athea Utd 1130 (P Manning)
Broadford Utd V Glin Rovers 1130 (P O’Brien)
Newcastle West V Ballingarry 1130 (E Noonan)
Newcastle West Rovers V Killeaney 1130 (D Wallace)
Rathkeale V Carrig Celtic 1130 (P O’Connor)

Premier Division (Sunday, May 28th) (last series)
Athea Utd V Rathkeale
Ballingarry V Abbeyfeale Utd
Carrig Celtic V Broadford Utd
Glin Rovers V Newcastle West Rovers
Killeaney V Newcastle West

[Shearer]

Surprised Declan Nash didn't win the player of the year award, was outstanding this season, fair play to Micheal Brosnan though, very good player also.
Player of the year awards are a bit of a joke, wouldn't take too much notice of Nash not winning.

The truth is nobody's going to vote for the lad playing for the team at the top of the table, as can be seen by the fact that of the four junior player of the year winners only one of them topped the table. For arguments sake, if you're Carrig Celtic are you really going to vote for Declan Nash if he tore you a new one twice?

I'm going to use Creeves Celtic as an example.
Last season Creeves Celtic were relegated and Seamus Mangan was Division Two player of the year despite the fact that Granagh and AK were head and shoulders above the rest.

This year James O'Connor won Division Three Player of the year despite the fact that Creeves had a terrible season finishing fourth in the league and sixth in the cup in a season where Ferry and NCW B where out on their own. See a trend?

Nothing against Seamus Mangan and James O'Connor who are both flaking players.

[The Enforcer]

Player of the year awards are a bit of a joke, wouldn't take too much notice of Nash not winning.

The truth is nobody's going to vote for the lad playing for the team at the top of the table, as can be seen by the fact that of the four junior player of the year winners only one of them topped the table. For arguments sake, if you're Carrig Celtic are you really going to vote for Declan Nash if he tore you a new one twice?

I'm going to use Creeves Celtic as an example.
Last season Creeves Celtic were relegated and Seamus Mangan was Division Two player of the year despite the fact that Granagh and AK were head and shoulders above the rest.

This year James O'Connor won Division Three Player of the year despite the fact that Creeves had a terrible season finishing fourth in the league and sixth in the cup in a season where Ferry and NCW B where out on their own. See a trend?

Nothing against Seamus Mangan and James O'Connor who are both flaking players.


Are you saying that Micheál Brosnan and Cathal Naughton didn't deserve their player of the year awards

[Shearer]

Are you saying that Micheál Brosnan and Cathal Naughton didn't deserve their player of the year awards
No, I definitely didn't say that. I'm just saying that the best player doesn't always win it.

[The Enforcer]

No, I definitely didn't say that. I'm just saying that the best player doesn't always win it.

So if they did deserve it I'm not too sure why you think the player of the year awards are a bit of a joke.

[nathanbrown]

I agree that the POTY selection process is very flawed. When the winner was voted for there was 4 or 5 games left in the league. This means half the teams in the league will have only seen some players play once at the most.

What if after every game each manager nominated a man of the match and passed it on to the ref. This still wouldn't be ideal but would be a much better solution than the current process.

[nathanbrown]

Meant to say they nominate man of the match from the opposition

[The Enforcer]

I agree that the POTY selection process is very flawed. When the winner was voted for there was 4 or 5 games left in the league. This means half the teams in the league will have only seen some players play once at the most.

What if after every game each manager nominated a man of the match and passed it on to the ref. This still wouldn't be ideal but would be a much better solution than the current process.

So are you saying that this years winners didn't deserve it

[nathanbrown]

Do you even read the posts? Or do you just get defensive regardless of what's posted? I was at a total of 3 games this year. 1 premier, 1 first division and 1 cup. So i have no idea who deserved what award. I simply stated it was a flawed system.

Are you saying the current system for nominating player of the year is ideal?

[jackass]

i agree with u shearer its a poor system. I cant understand how the poty can be picked with several important league games to go and big cup finals to be played. The nominees should be sent to clubs when the season has finished. Its not always going to be the case where the poty comes from the league winners. I think michael brosnan fully deserves his award, he has scored something like 25 plus goals from midfield which is incredible. Was quiet surprised Cathal Naughton won poty for division 1, he has only played half the season with granagh think he finished up around january as he left the country so most clubs would only have played granagh once.

[The Enforcer]

Do you even read the posts? Or do you just get defensive regardless of what's posted? I was at a total of 3 games this year. 1 premier, 1 first division and 1 cup. So i have no idea who deserved what award. I simply stated it was a flawed system.

Are you saying the current system for nominating player of the year is ideal?

Every system is flawed if you look hard enough for a weakness

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Premier Division (Sunday, May 21st) (second last series)
Abbeyfeale Utd 1 Athea Utd 4
Broadford Utd 3 Glin Rovers 1
Newcastle West 1 Ballingarry 3
Newcastle West Rovers 2 Killeaney 1
Rathkeale 4 Carrig Celtic 0.

After todays results Killeaney join Newcastle West in Division 1.
Rathkeale are away to Athea next Sunday needing a win to clinch the title. A draw here and a Broadford win away to Carrig and its a playoff for the title. Atheas win away to Ballingarry on Friday night preserves their premier status while Ballingarrys ensured top flight football next season after their win away to Newcastle West on Sunday morning coupled with Killeaneys loss away to Newcastle West Rovers.

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Desmond Youths Cup Final
Askeaton 3 Abbeyfeale Utd 1

Division 3 League Cup Final
Ferry Rangers 3 Carrig Celtic B 2

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Division 1 Relegation Playoff
Feenagh A 1 Rathkeale B 0

[fanaticfan]

Fair play to feenagh on staying up. Were miles behind at one stage. Got nice few wins towards the end of the season

[Langerdan007]

congrats to Feenagh, they were cut adrift and gone at xmas as far as we were concerned but they've had some run to finish the season :applause:

[nathanbrown]

Great achievement from feenagh. What happened them early in the year? I see they finished with 17 points. 13 of those came in the last 6 games. Leicester city finished the season like that 2 years ago and continued that form into the next season to win the league. No pressure now feenagh.
At the same time I'm very surprised to see rathkeale b relegated. Always a strong b team