Tom Field

[liamoo11]

Been quite a rise for field. Brentford paid about 2million for a 19 year old left full from walsall in the summer and brought in another left full on loan from leicester in the summer when he got injured. Field has taken his chance but 2 19 year old left fulls into one will not go

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

He was born and raised in England. Hardly a surprise he might support England too. It doesn't negate his positive sentiment for Ireland or his apparent interest in playing for us at senior level.



Yeah, and Field responded in agreement unambiguously that, "definitely", Stephen Ward gives him a bit of hope for the future. What do you think Field is talking about in that final tweet? He even added a shamrock, just in case it wasn't obvious enough. I see no reason to think that Field would turn down an invitation to join our squad if he was offered one. I think the signs look pretty good from our perspective and he's someone who could provide strength in depth in what has been a long-term problem-position for us.

Hardly a surprise he might harbor aspirations of playing for England as he continues to ascend the ladder. Who knows? I don't know. You don't know. He hasn't played for Ireland since U-16's. You're not going to get anything concrete from an exchange of banter in 140 character tweets unless you are looking for it. The strongest sentiment seems to be coming from Hayes, not Field. But, hey, maybe that's just me.

He added a shamrock, did he?! He's in the bag so.

If you look into Jack Grealish's tweeting history, he had countless similar exchanges with Irish fans. And he, and his father, have gone on to talk about how he always supported and wanted to play for England. So, I won't read too much into it until something more concrete happens.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I seen Liam Kelly making similar tweets about supporting England on Twitter and I said I wouldn't post about it here because a) it's Twitter and b) I don't want to open up a can of worms, but since someone else brought up Field's tweets I thought I'd chime in about Field specifically.

[Closed Account]

FFS. How are we arguing over this again. Nobody knows his intentions, but statistically, more non Irish born players capped Underage for Ireland, end up staying with Ireland. Can we park any talk of players changing association until it actually happens.

Tets, can we get a warning system on it. If anyone speculates on Irish Underage players playing for another association, 1 week ban. It's pointless and tiresome.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

It wasn't me that even brought the subject up!

I have already said umpteen times that players who have Irish first names or Irish last names shouldn't be talked about until it's clear that they are eligible or even have Irish blood.

And if I had my own way, there would be a moratorium on Bamford and Hogan until their Intl situation is cleared up.

The person speculating on his intentions is/was Danny and I'm going to hazard a guess that it's not him you want a 1 week ban levied on.

[DannyInvincible]

He added a shamrock, did he?! He's in the bag so.

Strawman. :rolleyes: I haven't said anything as definitive as that. I've said he's given a clear signal of interest, which I think looks good from our perspective. It's obviously more promising than apathy or ambiguity.


It wasn't me that even brought the subject up!

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The person speculating on his intentions is/was Danny and I'm going to hazard a guess that it's not him you want a 1 week ban levied on.

Hmm, see post #31 (before I ever posted in this thread): http://foot.ie/threads/213819-Tom-Field?p=1907112&viewfull=1#post1907112

In that post, you said:


I concur.

O'Dowda plays there and Ward still has two campaigns in him.

Field is miles away from a call up, if he even wants one.

Anyway, numerous other posters have also, like myself, been wondering what level of interest Field may have in potentially representing us at senior level. I don't think there's much wrong with that personally; being an Ireland fan makes me naturally curious about potential or future players. I had a look for what liamoo11 was referring to on Twitter and thought the exchanges I posted above may be significant towards helping to form some sort of impression as to where Field may stand on the matter. (If tets wants to ban such discussion, so be it; he can dictate that.) Either way, you're discussing it with me now even though you've previously repeatedly claimed you're ignoring me. :confused: Take responsibility for your posts.


I have already said umpteen times that players who have Irish first names or Irish last names shouldn't be talked about until it's clear that they are eligible or even have Irish blood.

Well, seeing as Field has represented us a few times at under-16 level, it appears he does indeed have Irish blood and is eligible.

[Closed Account]

The person speculating on his intentions is/was Danny and I'm going to hazard a guess that it's not him you want a 1 week ban levied on.
I'm not an arbitror of anything and I don't think Danny or anyone is making sense in this thread.
We have a player, Tom Field, who has represented 1 country Underage. Ireland. Hence he has a thread in here. Let's discuss his progress.

Now should a quote from Southgate or the player himself or his family come out about him representing England, boom, discussion.

Similarly, your Hogans, Stearmans, Chambers, until they are named in a squad, they get discussed in the eligibility thread. (hogan was named in a squad sorry)

Towk, this has nothing to do with you, or Danny. It's about not reading the same discussion ad finite. This situation is not unique.

A tiny part of me hates when I Google "James McCarthy", one of the first results is the stupidness that was in his thread and I don't want the same for other players.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I've said he's given a clear signal of interest

Anthony Hayes? I agree.


Either way, you're discussing it with me now even though you've previously repeatedly claim you're ignoring me. :confused: Take responsibility for your posts.

When Tets reprimanded us and told us to ignore each other, I was the only one who did so. You would do so for a week or two and then you would gradually start replying to my posts again after the smoke had cleared. I've decided to start engaging with you again. I'd have no problem doing so to begin with if you weren't so patronising and rude.

[DannyInvincible]

Anthony Hayes? I agree.

What do you think Field's "definitely" was in reference to?


I've decided to start engaging with you again.

Fine. I'm always happy to engage. Feel free to answer the question above so. Or even here (http://foot.ie/threads/147164-Eligibility-Rules-Okay?p=1906074&viewfull=1#post1906074).

[Stuttgart88]

How is that spinning it negatively?

I have worked with Rangers fans who supported ROI over their opposition in the Euros.

Just like lots of us rooted for NI over their opposition in the Euros.

If England weren't there we would probably be most people's second team.you get all hot under the collar when Grealish tweets support for England. You dismiss Field when he tweets support for Ireland. It's hard to win when you're the interpreter. Few of us know anything about this guy or Conor Ronan so the least said about either's international intentions the better.

[KrisLetang]

Is this Dean Smith who manages Tom at Brentford the same Dean Smith who coached Michael Jordan at North Carolina? Because if he can do for Tom what he did for MJ we really could have something going here.

[Charlie Darwin]

And he, and his father, have gone on to talk about how he always supported and wanted to play for England.
Have they? Just curious, if you have a link.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Have they? Just curious, if you have a link.

"I was born here, as were my parents, so I felt more English than Irish.”

Telegraph

Will look for the others.

I heard his father saying similar but on radio so not sure if I will be able to find the link, but I will try!

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

you get all hot under the collar when Grealish tweets support for England. You dismiss Field when he tweets support for Ireland. It's hard to win when you're the interpreter. Few of us know anything about this guy or Conor Ronan so the least said about either's international intentions the better.

If I got hot under the collar it's because he was playing for our underage teams and taking a squad place from someone who wants to play for their country all the while harboring a desire to play for England. I've kind of come around to the fact that you reap what you sow. Northern Ireland have produced several players who felt the same way Grealish did and ended up declaring for Ireland so you can't complain; you win some, you lose some.

Field tweeted his support for Ireland. He also tweeted his support for England. There's no point ignoring the latter. You also have to acknowledge the presence of inducement. Some of the comments referred above were prodded out of him by Anthony Hayes.

"Come on England" also seems more like a vociferous statement of support than "Ireland to Win", although there is an emoji there.

The chap hasn't played for Ireland in over four years. You're right. God knows what his situation is.

Joe Mason didn't play for Ireland for a similar length of time and there seems to be confusion over his situation also.

[IsMiseSean]

"Come on England" also seems more like a vociferous statement of support than "Ireland to Win", although there is an emoji there.


He included a shamrock emoji in his tweet. How can you question the lad's loyalty?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

"Ireland face tug-of-war with Wales for Brentford prospect Tom Field"


IRELAND face a tug-of-war with Wales for Brentford prospect Tom Field.

Left-back Field, 19, has made the breakthrough at the Championship club recently.

Prior to this season, he had clocked up just one first-team appearance, against Fulham last April.

He got another run-out in the League Cup defeat to Exeter City in August but, since December, he has become a fixture in the side.

The London-born player has clocked up a further 12 games, scoring three times, renewing the FAI’s interest in him.

Both of his maternal grandparents are Irish.

Field was capped twice by Tom O’Connor in Under-16 friendlies against Estonia in November 2012 but has not been involved since.

Under-21 boss Noel King was looking at calling him up for their first Euro qualifier against Kosovo next month.

But he has been informed that the player wishes to concentrate solely on club football between now and the end of the season.

It is reminiscent of the stance taken by his former Bees team-mate Scott Hogan — who has since moved to Aston Villa — when approached by Martin O’Neill to declare for Ireland.

While an England call-up for Hogan may be a long shot, there is a more realistic rival for Field.

SunSport has learned that the Football Association of Wales have also made enquiries as he also qualifies for them.

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/610951/ireland-face-a-tug-of-war-with-wales-for-brentford-prospect-tom-field/

[Charlie Darwin]

Don't tell me he's been posting dragons when Wales are playing.

[liamoo11]

unfortunately he has lost his place for the last 3 games since henry the 19 year old they bought in the summer got back fit after preseason injury. Not promising for his future there unless henry gets a big move in the summer

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Henry's surname is vaguely Irish. Perhaps we can pursue him now that he has taken Field's place in the team.

[liamoo11]

Henry's surname is vaguely Irish. Perhaps we can pursue him now that he has taken Field's place in the team.

Perhaps we could convince ybig to take towk off our hands!

[Eminence Grise]

Henry's surname is vaguely Irish.

I'd say it's a dead cert that he's Irish. Sure even Henry VIII was King of Ireland.

Is it possibly French too...? Seem to have a repressed memory that says it might be.

[Closed Account]

Perhaps we could convince ybig to take towk off our hands!

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[DannyInvincible]

Noel King on Field (via Dan McDonnell): http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/king-denies-wrongdoing-as-row-over-recruitment-of-northern-players-rumbles-on-35535925.html


On the issue of eligibility, [Noel King] said that Brentford's Tom Field is opting to concentrate on club football for the remainder of this season.
The English-born left-back represented Ireland at U-16 level but has been out of the scene for a while and Wales now want to bring him on board.

"If he doesn't come to us, we'll wish him all the best where he goes, that would be the normal thing," said King.