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patsh
25/01/2005, 10:16 AM
According to http://corkcityfc.ie/forums/index.php?showtopic=986

we have failed to get a Premier League Licence...:eek:
If this is true, whats going on???? :confused:

joey B
25/01/2005, 10:22 AM
Surely not :eek:

pete
25/01/2005, 10:23 AM
I never look at that forum. Whose stirring that? Reliable poster?

Sounds like sh!t to me.

How could city get licence last year, improve ground & organisation &not get one this year.

:rolleyes:

patsh
25/01/2005, 10:25 AM
I never look at that forum. Whose stirring that? Reliable poster?

Sounds like sh!t to me.

How could city get licence last year, improve ground & organisation &not get one this year.

:rolleyes:
Well the guy who posted it is normally reliable and doesn't usually try and silly sh*t.....:(

from http://www.soccercentral.ie



The Football Association of Ireland will hold a briefing for members of the media on Club Licensing at 11.45 am, tomorrow, Tuesday, 25th January 2005 in 80 Merrion Square.

The First Instance Committee met on Saturday and it is believed a number of clubs had some difficultly in meeting the criteria set out in the Club Licensing Manual.

There are reports that two Premier Division clubs failed to secure the necessary nod but no confirmation in that regard has been notified.

It is understood that only those clubs who qualified for European Competition were considered for European Licences while a number of high profile clubs have reportedly had difficulty in meeting the standards and conditions laid down to secure the necessary licence particularily in relation to the Finance and Legal criteria.

eoinh
25/01/2005, 10:33 AM
Ground problems and the like could be easily fixed.


I hope its nothing to do with administrative, taxation or financial matters. Lets face it - not one of us really have a clue about how city perform in these matters. My gut feeling is that it will be something small and can easily be rectified.

The only thing i can think of with regard to the ground is the LUX value of the floodlights.

Gary
25/01/2005, 10:38 AM
This isnt good news, but none of us know the facts, as none of were there putting together our application.

I just hope it is a small administrative error, which can be rectified quickly.

patsh
25/01/2005, 10:57 AM
A few mbs are saying that the majority of clubs didn't get the licence.

Ruairi
25/01/2005, 11:16 AM
according to the frontpage of corkcityfc.ie, we failed on two grounds, legal and finacial, on two VERY small technicalities, for example copies rather than oriiginals of documents were submitted. nothing to worry about.

Colm
25/01/2005, 11:18 AM
according to the frontpage of corkcityfc.ie, we failed on two grounds, legal and finacial, on two VERY small technicalities, for example copies rather than oriiginals of documents were submitted. nothing to worry about.

Yeah, I'd say it's only a couple of minor glitches alright. The club were extremely confident that we would get it so I can't see there being any serious problems.

leesider
25/01/2005, 11:27 AM
what's the story with the eufa license? do we have to get that as well?

wws
25/01/2005, 11:32 AM
"Cork City FC has been denied a premier licence, for minor technical reasons in two areas: Legal and Financial."

If they've been denied a Premier licence than a euro license would be out of the question


where does this leave our clubs in europe??????

eoinh
25/01/2005, 11:35 AM
"Cork City FC has been denied a premier licence, for minor technical reasons in two areas: Legal and Financial."

If they've been denied a Premier licence than a euro license would be out of the question


where does this leave our clubs in europe??????


Minor technical would mean i assume that they can be easily fixed. Should be no problem.

patsh
25/01/2005, 11:52 AM
"Cork City FC has been denied a premier licence, for minor technical reasons in two areas: Legal and Financial."

If they've been denied a Premier licence than a euro license would be out of the question


where does this leave our clubs in europe??????
AS far as I know, the first step was to get the Premier licence, then the extra criteria for the UEFA licence was to be addressed within the next few months?

If we, or any other club, was refused a licence on such petty grounds, the FAI have sunk even lower into arseh*ledom. Surely thye could have looked at all applications, sifted out the ones with minor problems, given the clubs a few days to sort those out, and then go public with the whole thing. Now, again, it's going to look like some shoddy, underhand deal to get the clubs thier licences, and another PR disaster.....:mad: :rolleyes:

drinkfeckarse
25/01/2005, 12:04 PM
All of this licensing stuff goes over my head really, what in simple terms does it mean if City did not get a Premier License? They can't operate in the Premier Division from Turners Cross?? And the same about a Uefa License...

I know it's only a minor detail anyway and will get sorted but all this licensing carry on has left me a confused man :confused: :o

wws
25/01/2005, 12:08 PM
AS far as I know, the first step was to get the Premier licence, then the extra criteria for the UEFA licence was to be addressed within the next few months?

If we, or any other club, was refused a licence on such petty grounds, the FAI have sunk even lower into arseh*ledom. Surely thye could have looked at all applications, sifted out the ones with minor problems, given the clubs a few days to sort those out, and then go public with the whole thing. Now, again, it's going to look like some shoddy, underhand deal to get the clubs thier licences, and another PR disaster.....:mad: :rolleyes:


while i agree with you that delaney is an absolute thundering pr1ck bastid - cork failed on two of the five main criteria - they than issued a spin on their website to calm the fans - god knows what will happen on appeal and what happens if some are in and some are out - we do the hokey cokey delaney and thats probably what he's all about....

Ruairi
25/01/2005, 12:20 PM
not ONE of the 22 clubs got a licence......

http://breakingnews.ie/2005/01/25/story186272.html

niamh
25/01/2005, 12:28 PM
"Cork City FC has been denied a premier licence, for minor technical reasons in two areas: Legal and Financial."

where does this leave our clubs in europe??????

We see how serious the issues are when City appeal...
*I presuming they are*

niamh
25/01/2005, 12:37 PM
According to official website, club are confident of getting licence on appeal on Feb 9th.

pineapple stu
25/01/2005, 12:38 PM
All of this licensing stuff goes over my head really, what in simple terms does it mean if City did not get a Premier License? They can't operate in the Premier Division from Turners Cross?? And the same about a Uefa License...

I know it's only a minor detail anyway and will get sorted but all this licensing carry on has left me a confused man :confused: :o
If Cork failed the ground requirements, they can't play in Turner's Cross, but can play in any ground which has the Premier requirements.

If they failed legal or administrative, it means they can't play in the Premier full stop.

That's the theory at least. The reality, as we saw last year, is different. You can download the manual on the FAI website somewhere - 100+ pages, but the first few are all you need to get an overview.

Ruairi
25/01/2005, 12:45 PM
MANUAL (http://www.fai.ie/2005clubmanual.doc)

it's taking me ages to download....

A face
25/01/2005, 12:56 PM
Aside from the issue at hand ..... it is great to be able to read a statement on the website ..... before we'd have been waiting till someone met someone in the street kinda thing. A small but very welcome detail, at least we have improved on that one thing.

Right ... any have the nuts and bolts of this one yet, where did we fall down ??

shedite
25/01/2005, 1:01 PM
MANUAL (http://www.fai.ie/2005clubmanual.doc)

it's taking me ages to download....

Ah bless the college high-speed computers!

Hardy gonna read it though.

pete
25/01/2005, 1:13 PM
Legal & Admin are a lot easier to fix than say infrastructure.

As i said elsewhere a PR disaster the FAI did not have to announce.

thecorner
26/01/2005, 9:18 PM
according to jerry harris on todays echo, the resaon they failed was because they sent photocopied documentation when the the original was required

minor detail that should be sorted

eoinh
26/01/2005, 9:50 PM
according to jerry harris on todays echo, the resaon they failed was because they sent photocopied documentation when the the original was required

minor detail that should be sorted


Thats good to know! :)