Thomas Butler

[drummerboy]

Thomas Butler who last week was let go by Dunfirmline is now on trial at Sheffield Wednesday. Hopefully he gets fixed up soon.

[tetsujin1979]

He played on tuesday night and set up their only goal in a 3-1 defeat. I tried to get on the sheffield wednesday site earlier for a report but it was down

[Donal81]

How the hell was he let go by Dunfermline? What's wrong with that bloke? He was actually a bit of a talent for a while.

[eirebhoy]

He played on tuesday night and set up their only goal in a 3-1 defeat. I tried to get on the sheffield wednesday site earlier for a report but it was down
That was a reserve game, I don't think trialie's can play competitive matches.

[drummerboy]

Only a matter of time before he will be snapped up by an EL club

[Feck off]

He was only on a contract until the end of december with Dunfermline and became a free agent in January.. As far as i know he played well with Shef Wed reserves the other night and should be signing a contract with them soon.

Not a bad move as Wednesday are pushing for promotion and are averaging gates of over 22,000 for home games. So i can't see him heading to the EL just yet...

[tetsujin1979]

That was a reserve game, I don't think trialie's can play competitive matches.

Sorry, yeah, it was a reserve game, should have mentioned that.

can't find a report on the offical site, who were they playing and you could check their site for a report

[eirebhoy]

If Wednesday keep up with these signings they'll be in the Championship in no time. Glenn Whelan and Joey O'Brien are two of our best prospects. They've also put in another loan bid for Mellor and have only recently signed James Quinn. They've scored 9 and conceded just 1 in their last 4 games. With the 3 Irish midfielders at the club I'll be keeping an eye on them.

[Slash/ED]

Despite his goals Mellor is a poor player imo, he was awful with West Ham and he's not premiership class, with Morientes signing for Liverpool he'd do well to get out now.

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

Only a matter of time before he will be snapped up by an EL club

No disrespect to the EL, but Thomas Butler is too good for it. Would prefer to see him play with high-flying Sheffield Wednesday.

[The Owls]

As a wednesday fan weve been through a hell of a lot in the last 5 years and the performances of whelo and joey have been excellent. Their attidude has been something else.it cant be easy to drop down two divisions but they have been outstanding.Joey is only on loan hopefully we can get him for the rest of the season.He loks really promising.I dont know much bout butler but we do need to strenghten our team.And i knew sheff united were after mellor but i dont think wednesday are but id take him.We had kenwyne jones of soton who scored 7 in 6 games but the saints took him back.Hopefully we can keep striding forward and get automatic promotion.I dont think luton will hold on.By the way the site iswww.swfc.co.uk (http://)

[1MickCollins]

No disrespect to the EL, but Thomas Butler is too good for it. Would prefer to see him play with high-flying Sheffield Wednesday.

I'm afraid League One is about Butler's level now, he has definitely slipped.

[Slash/ED]

No disrespect to the EL, but Thomas Butler is too good for it. Would prefer to see him play with high-flying Sheffield Wednesday.

Butler was, of at least, could have been too good for the EL, far too good for it but he's half the player he was, if even that. He certinaly wouldn't get into the current Shels team and if Wednesday get promoted he'd struggle with the form he's shown over the past few seasons.

[Éanna]

No disrespect to the EL, but Thomas Butler is too good for it. Would prefer to see him play with high-flying Sheffield Wednesday.
the league will really progress with that kind of attitude :rolleyes:

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

the league will really progress with that kind of attitude :rolleyes:

Dont think you can take the moral high ground with me. I was just being honest. The league will hardly progress with some EL supporters wanting to see Shelbourne do badly in Europe.

[Éanna]

Dont think you can take the moral high ground with me. I was just being honest. The league will hardly progress with some EL supporters wanting to see Shelbourne do badly in Europe.
I'm not taking the moral high ground, I was stating fact. And what have shels got to do with anything?

[Slash/ED]

Whatever about the moral highground TheJamaicanP.M. is just plain wrong anyway.

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

I'm not taking the moral high ground, I was stating fact. And what have shels got to do with anything?

Certain EL fans, especially Cork ones think it is ok to support the opposition when Shels play in Europe. This is bourne out of jealousy. Surely wanting to see an EL team be knocked out of Europe is more detrimental to the domestic game than me suggesting that Thomas Butler is too good for the league. I dont hear you criticising these people Eanna, perhaps because you are one of them? people is glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
Regardless of what SlashED might think, Butler, if he fulfils his undoubted potential is too good for the EL. I believe Butler is better off staying in England if he is genuine about his football career.

[Slash/ED]

Regardless of what SlashED might think, Butler, if he fulfils his undoubted potential is too good for the EL. I believe Butler is better off staying in England if he is genuine about his football career.

The fact is he isn't going to realise the amazing potential he had. I've heard people question his lifestyle and motivation and maybe that's why but he's never progressed from the promising youngster at Sunderland, in fact he's gone way way backwards. Like I said, he wouldn't get his game for Shels now, and I was a massive fan of his as a youngster.

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

The fact is he isn't going to realise the amazing potential he had. I've heard people question his lifestyle and motivation and maybe that's why but he's never progressed from the promising youngster at Sunderland, in fact he's gone way way backwards. Like I said, he wouldn't get his game for Shels now, and I was a massive fan of his as a youngster.

He's still young enough. He's surely no older than Liam Miller or Graham Barrett. If Sheffield Wednesday give him a chance, it will be his last. He needs to grasp this opportunity. Its not too late.

[Slash/ED]

He's still young enough. He's surely no older than Liam Miller or Graham Barrett. If Sheffield Wednesday give him a chance, it will be his last. He needs to grasp this opportunity. Its not too late.

Yes but Miller has showed signs of actually producing some of his potential, mainly for Celtic mind, and Barrett isn't good enough either. It's too late for him to turn from someone who couldn't make it in the SPL to someone who will be playing at the highest level imo unless he has a serious, serious turn around.

[Plastic Paddy]

Yes but Miller has showed signs of actually producing some of his potential, mainly for Celtic mind

In the Champions League for Celtic, or had that escaped your attention? :rolleyes: I'm not defending Miller, far from it; it's just that such veiled comments about Celtic (mainly from the eL heads) really are wearing thin.

:ball: PP

[Slash/ED]

In the Champions League for Celtic, or had that escaped your attention? :rolleyes: I'm not defending Miller, far from it; it's just that such veiled comments about Celtic (mainly from the eL heads) really are wearing thin.

:ball: PP

My point was he hasn't reproduced that form at Man U, not that scottish football doens't count or anything, but the fact you thought that's what I meant speaks volumes :)

[Plastic Paddy]

My point was he hasn't reproduced that form at Man U, not that scottish football doens't count or anything, but the fact you thought that's what I meant speaks volumes :)

It's hard not to be sensitive, defensive or even prîckly when the mention of the club comes up on this site, given the esteem in which many posters seem to hold Celtic Football Club and its fans. I honestly wouldn't read anything more than that into my response if I were you.

:ball: PP

[Éanna]

Certain EL fans, especially Cork ones think it is ok to support the opposition when Shels play in Europe.
That's their right isn't it? How many other countries do you have a situation where people support their rivals in europe. Do Man Utd fans support liverpool in europe? Do Real fans spport barca in europe? No.


This is bourne out of jealousy.
Not jealousy, just dislike/rivalry, call it what you want.


Surely wanting to see an EL team be knocked out of Europe is more detrimental to the domestic game than me suggesting that Thomas Butler is too good for the league.
No. Wanting to see your rivals do badly is the hallmark of competitiveness. Wanting to see your league improve is a sign of a forward-thinking, positive outlook.


I dont hear you criticising these people Eanna, perhaps because you are one of them? people is glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
I'm not going to criticise anyone for whether they chose to support a rival team in europe. Personally, i always hope Irish teams do well in europe- I said that when shels were in europe- dunno if you missed it.

[tetsujin1979]

Thomas Butler forced to retire due to persistent thigh injury: http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Swansea-City-star-Tom-Butler-forced-time-career/story-16535232-detail/story.html