Darts

[patsh]

IS anybody watching the Darts on BBC?
Very interesting I have to say, though I've never seen the Sky version of the WC.
There was a great match on last light between Barneveld and Van der Voort, two Dutch guys. Well great in the respect of watching Barneveld class.
Barneveld, 3 times world champion, was awesome without ever getting out of first gear. He was 4 - 0 up at the break, and it cut to your man from Football Focus, who is presenting the programs, talking to Bobby George.
Presenter: "Is there any hope at all for Van Der Voort, Bobby?"
Bobby G: "Well maybe Barney's right arm might fall off during the interval, and then Vincent may have some chance!"
Class stuff, that guy is a character.
Barneveld won the match on a 170 close out, two triples 20s and the Bull. Incredible stuff.

[carrickharp]

Darts second only to Soccer :D

[pete]

Darts good for 1 week a year.

Never seen Sky version & don't understand the difference. Are all sky guys fulltime pros & BBC some part-time? Do players mix in non-world champ tournaments? Are sky better players?

Seen some BBC stuff at weekend & thought 1st round standard pathetic. Saw Barney match last night & he destroyed Van der Voort. Barely missed a clear-out.

Is Darts the only sport played in basically a giant pub? ;)

[Pat O' Banton]

Darts good for 1 week a year.

Never seen Sky version & don't understand the difference. Are all sky guys fulltime pros & BBC some part-time? Do players mix in non-world champ tournaments? Are sky better players?

Seen some BBC stuff at weekend & thought 1st round standard pathetic. Saw Barney match last night & he destroyed Van der Voort. Barely missed a clear-out.

Is Darts the only sport played in basically a giant pub? ;)

No, there was a boxing type split of associations about ten years back, before then it was a single BDC (ie the one on BBC at the moment) championship, which Phil Taylor won a few times.

[the 12 th man]

anybody know is jocky wilson still alive ?

[Pat O' Banton]

anybody know is jocky wilson still alive ?

According to this he is http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/people/famousfirst907.html
I think I need to read it again but I'm sure it says something about him trying too clear up the beer swilling image of the game :eek: .

Anyone remember Dexys Midnight runer playing 'Jackie Wilson Says' on Top of the Pops and by mistake someone was projecting a big image of Scotlands most famous rotund darts player?

[Pat O' Banton]

BTW, here's a cut and paste job of Waddell's memorable lines...



Did you know that he got a first in History at Cambridge?

[the 12 th man]

According to this he is http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/people/famousfirst907.html
I think I need to read it again but I'm sure it says something about him trying too clear up the beer swilling image of the game :eek: .

Anyone remember Dexys Midnight runer playing 'Jackie Wilson Says' on Top of the Pops and by mistake someone was projecting a big image of Scotlands most famous rotund darts player?


i remember it ok. :)
thanks for your research :D

[Macy]

Anyone remember Dexys Midnight runer playing 'Jackie Wilson Says' on Top of the Pops and by mistake someone was projecting a big image of Scotlands most famous rotund darts player?
Actually that was on the "TV's 3450 biggest gaffs" over Christmas (just flicked and they were on that) - Kevin Rowland saying it was one of the biggest myths ever that it was a mistake, they knew all about it and set the whole thing up. Also had that Canadian DJ bloke (Jansen?) on saying he didn't know about it, and was majorly panicing :D

[carrickharp]

Jockey Wilson used to drink pints of Vodka during matches, the no drinking/smoking on stage rule fecked him.

The split is causing a lot of problems even for our own players CLICK HERE (http://www.pdpa.co.uk/news/PDPA%20members_barred_INDO.htm)

[Aberdonian Stu]

I have never seen a match in the Sky version but a friend of mine who is a bit of an afficionado and watches both says that on the whole the standard of the one on Sky is higher.

[De Town]

Sky darts are way better than BBC. Love watchin Phil Taylor, what a legend. Even when he's playing badly he still manages to win. Don't watch the BBC darts that much because half of them wouldnt hit treble 20 to save their lives :eek:

[carrickharp]

Woulden't say that, Raymond van Barneveld would do well in the PDC (Sky) Tournment but he has stayed loyal to the BDO (BBC) and you can't play in both so until that if ever we won't know.

[Aberdonian Stu]

Well he played Taylor a few years back in a head-to-head on ITV and got creamed.

[De Town]

Well he played Taylor a few years back in a head-to-head on ITV and got creamed.

And your man Fordham played Taylor a few months ago and got beaten.

[Aberdonian Stu]

Yeah but he was injured and had to pull out so it wasn't quite as convincing.

[Partizan]

I much prefer the BBC darts to its Sky variant. BSkyB initiated the split in 1994 over money and promptly bought out the best darts players with the promise of bigger wads of cash. Since then I have viewed the Sky competition as being artificial and devoid of any real atmosphere and excitement. Phil Taylor's dominace of the Sky competition has all but killed it and all the old pros that originally came from the BBC are now retired.

The Lakeside cannot be beaten no matter what you say. Ok, the standard is probably higher on Sky but I think that because the BDO is part time, makes it more appealing and holds to its urban English proletariat (working mens clubs). The sight of the different characters in the crowd, the panto, tacky xmas decorations, the beer swilling, tatoo clad chain smoking lads and ladettes, beer belly athletes, warts and all give it the cutting edge. This is where its at, not the hyped up, money ridden, commercialised Sky crap.

Ted Hanky, Andy Fordham, Martin Adams, Colin Monk and Barney, gods amongst men.

Its looking like a Hanky-Barneveld final........BRING IT ON.

In short, the Lakeside encapsulates everything that is the humble pub game of DARTS.

[carrickharp]

I much prefer the BBC darts to its Sky variant. BSkyB initiated the split in 1994 over money and promptly bought out the best darts players with the promise of bigger wads of cash. Since then I have viewed the Sky competition as being artificial and devoid of any real atmosphere and excitement. Phil Taylor's dominace of the Sky competition has all but killed it and all the old pros that originally came from the BBC are now retired.

The Lakeside cannot be beaten no matter what you say. Ok, the standard is probably higher on Sky but I think that because the BDO is part time, makes it more appealing and holds to its urban English working class roots. The sight of the different characters in the crowd, the panto, tacky xmas decorations, the beer swilling, tatoo clad chain smoking lads and ladettes, beer belly athletes, warts and all give it the cutting edge. This is where its at, not the hyped up, money ridden, commercialised Sky crap.

Ted Hanky, Andy Fordham, Martin Adams, Colin Monk and Barney, gods amongst men.

Its looking like a Hanky-Barneveld final........BRING IT ON.

In short, the Lakeside encapsulates everything that is the humble pub game of DARTS.

Here, Here well said!

[Pat O' Banton]

Ahhhh, Ted Hankey, no name in sport makes me laugh like his. :D

[pete]

Some of the women in darts crowds are scary looking.

Seems to be part of the appeal for BBC as they always showing them. :eek:

Was funny to see odd BBC clip of "injured" darts player ;)

[Schumi]

Barney looks like he's gonig to walk it this year. Hankey is the only one who can get near him I'd say but even he won't beat him.

[carrickharp]

Barney proved yet again he is best in the BDO world of darts, he is now one title behind Bristows 5 world crowns, I hope he can put up a good show against Taylor this time around.

The big difference in the two competitions is that there was only one interval last night, while on SKY they break after most sets for advertisements, it’s a better system as both players are up their on stage and cant leave until the interval.

[patsh]

Does Barneveld get to play the guy from the Sky version of the WC?

Has there been games between them before, and if so, what were the results?

[cullenswood]

Does noone else think that Darts is one of the weirdest sports in the world. I mean, you do the same thing over and over and over again, ie throw three darts at a board. Conditions never change, it is always going to be the same type of board and you are always going to be the same distance from the board. The only taxing thing is being able to add and subtract properly.

Not a great "sport" if you ask me

[Schumi]

Does Barneveld get to play the guy from the Sky version of the WC?

Has there been games between them before, and if so, what were the results?
Taylor hammered Barney a few years back. I think that's the only time it's happened. Fordham pulled out of last year's because of ill health.

[Aberdonian Stu]

Yeah he went a fridge too far

[Pat O' Banton]

Not a great "sport" if you ask me

According to Radio 5 its officially a sport at all. Still I think its great entertainment.

[Pat O' Banton]

It's a sport in the sense that Formula 1 is a sport.

Far more of a sport then watching cars going round the same piece of concrete 70 odd times. I'd rather watch the traffic, at least you'll get a varitey of cars.

[cullenswood]

Far more of a sport then watching cars going round the same piece of concrete 70 odd times. I'd rather watch the traffic, at least you'll get a varitey of cars.

Yeah but my point is (and I am not a big fan of F1 either) that at least there are different conditions in each race and different tracks etc, so the competitors are challenged in different ways each time. In Darts the conditions are the EXACT same for each competition, (even though one could technically argue that the amount of cigarette smoke in each venue differs)

[Pat O' Banton]

(even though one could technically argue that the amount of cigarette smoke in each venue differs)
:D :D

[the 12 th man]

Far more of a sport then watching cars going round the same piece of concrete 70 odd times. I'd rather watch the traffic, at least you'll get a varitey of cars.


lately most people would take the darts over f1...schumacher zzzzzzzzzzz.


p.s. i maxed out me credit card :o on play.com so i'll have to wait for me frank sidebottom cd

[pineapple stu]

Darts is great for the drama, I think. Watching some lad trying to hit a half-a-square-inch segment from seven-odd foot away knowing that if he misses, the other lad will be in for a chance to win the game...watching him bottle double 8, then double 4 only to get double 2 is brilliant. And as someone who takes about 20 minutes to finish a game of "Round the clock", it's amazing just how good the top players are! You appreciate a game so much more once you realise how rubbish you are at it!

I don't think anyone really claims that darts is a sport. But (in Ireland, anyway), sports get Government funding whereas games don't, which is why chess players, for example, want chess recognised as a sport when it's even less physical than darts...

[the 12 th man]

darts players wives on sky last night:

scarey stuff :eek:
what about phil "the power" taylor's house,it has tacky ornaments from top to tail and of course a a dart board in the middle of the wall in the living room of his house :D






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