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Closed Account 2
04/01/2005, 9:38 PM
Anyone see this ?

Not a goal apparently.

Gary
04/01/2005, 9:52 PM
2, maybe 3 yards over. It was an abysmal decision. That linesman should hang his head. I just wonder had it been Man U done the same, would it not have been a goal.

Disgraceful decision.

De Town
04/01/2005, 10:11 PM
It was disgraceful. Im sorry to say, but im a utd fan and I must say that Roy Carroll and The lino should hang their heads. I wouldnt mind if it was close but it was a mile over.

DolansWaistcoat
04/01/2005, 10:21 PM
Fcukin crazy stuff alright and would ya believe it,Fergie didn't see it from where he was. :eek: :rolleyes:

Two shocking decisions in a couple of days now after Rileys ''Ball to Hand'' to give Chelski a break at Anfield.

Superhoops
04/01/2005, 10:39 PM
Two shocking decisions in a couple of days now....

These incidents strengthen the case for technology to be used. Like most fans, I would prefer not to have to use magic eyes etc. but while this incompetence and blatant dishonesty goes on it has to come.

In the Liverpool/Chesea game, the most annoying thing for me was that Mike Riley has not had the decency to say he got it wrong, even after seeing it several times on TV.

In tonight's incident, the biggest culprit was Roy Carroll who should have had the bottle to signal that the ball was in. I am not a cricket fan but there appears to be a certain 'code of honour' among players when the umpires cannot see clearly.

In football cheating is encouraged and before even talking about players or referees, the two biggest cheats the premiership are Ferguson and Wenger who only see what they want to and criticise any player except their own. It is shameful to think that the two best managers of the last decade choose to, at best, ignore or to, at worst, support cheating.

Metrostars
05/01/2005, 2:22 AM
What are you all saying? The ball never crossed the line!

mypost
05/01/2005, 3:55 AM
Didn't see the game, but let's consider the situation:

Theatre of silence, last minute, away striker scores, or does he?? Referees you see, have different rules to obey in the theatre of silence. So, however clear it was that the ball went in, it can't be given.

The only way you get a goal like that there, is if the ball has hit the stantion, hit all 4 corners of the net, and bounced back out of the net, in order to prevent he who must be obeyed on the home bench, from moaning that it wasn't in.

Still look at the bright side, Spurs didn't lose there for the first time in years, and that crowd are 11 points behind Chelsea with 16 games to go. Let's hope it's 14 after we've sorted them.

Fergie: Face facts, your title's gone. ;)

Karlos
05/01/2005, 7:41 AM
Fcukin crazy stuff alright and would ya believe it,Fergie didn't see it from where he was. :eek: :rolleyes:



It was so obvious I think Arsene even saw it from the dugout in Highbury!! :D

tut, tut, Alex! :eek:

I actually didn't know whether to laugh or cry - Utd dropping all three would have been nice but Spurs getting robbed ain't half bad as a substitute feeling! :D

tiktok
05/01/2005, 7:52 AM
Fcukin crazy stuff alright and would ya believe it,Fergie didn't see it from where he was. :eek: :rolleyes:

In fairness, what he said after the game was:

"I think it hammers home what a lot of people have been asking for and that's that technology should play a part in the game, particularly in an incident like that because it clearly shows the ball was over the line"

but it's easy to have a crack off him based on his reputation isn't it :rolleyes:

Macy
05/01/2005, 7:57 AM
Ferguson said he couldn't see from the dug out - I'd say the fookin ref and linesman was alot fookin closer. He also said afterwards that it strengthened the need for video technology to be used - despite the fact it would've cost United the points last night.

No different from the rent boys getting away with 2 clear peno's the other day against the dippers - except that it could've been the difference between 3 and no points for them, whereas it was only a point for United....

Macy
05/01/2005, 8:04 AM
Never crossed the line anyway :D

Proof it wasn't a goal (http://img21.exs.cx/img21/5952/post-1-1104886332.gif)

Karlos
05/01/2005, 8:06 AM
No different from the rent boys getting away with 2 clear peno's the other day against the dippers - except that it could've been the difference between 3 and no points for them, whereas it was only a point for United....

There is a distinct difference between awarding a winning goal in injury time and awarding an oppertunity to score a goal early in a game in my opinion - there's no guarantee in the world that the penalties would have been converted but it is unquestionable that the ball crossed the line for a valid goal.

Plastic Paddy
05/01/2005, 8:13 AM
No different from the rent boys getting away with 2 clear peno's the other day against the dippers - except that it could've been the difference between 3 and no points for them, whereas it was only a point for United....

"Rent boys"? "Dippers"? :confused:

I wondered what you eL heads did in the close season. Now I know; you obviously spend the time inventing nicknames for English clubs... :D

:D PP

Macy
05/01/2005, 9:18 AM
"Rent boys"? "Dippers"? :confused:

I wondered what you eL heads did in the close season. Now I know; you obviously spend the time inventing nicknames for English clubs... :D

:D PP
I can't take the credit for coming up with those nicknames - just part of my manc education - and come on, everyone knows that Scousers are Bin Dippers ;) :D

Closed Account 2
05/01/2005, 9:31 AM
No different from the rent boys getting away with 2 clear peno's the other day against the dippers - except that it could've been the difference between 3 and no points for them, whereas it was only a point for United....

I know what you mean, and it looks like Glazers' "Home Counties Hotshots" will finish 3rd anyway irrespective of the point they were gifted. But to be fair its worth bearing in mind that there was another team involved, and those 2 points could be costly to Spurs come the end of the season interms of Champions League or UEFA Cup.

Plastic Paddy
05/01/2005, 10:12 AM
I can't take the credit for coming up with those nicknames - just part of my manc education - and come on, everyone knows that Scousers are Bin Dippers ;) :D

I wonder what planet I inhabit sometimes. I'd honestly never come across either expression before. It all makes sense now. :)

:D PP

thecorner
05/01/2005, 6:00 PM
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/5952/post-1-1104886332.gif

enjoy ;)

De Town
05/01/2005, 6:20 PM
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/5952/post-1-1104886332.gif

enjoy ;)

Macy posted that above ;)

mypost
06/01/2005, 1:50 AM
Things have a way of evening out.

Liverpool fans were justifiably upset about a bad decision against them at the weekend, but surely must have been happy to see potential challengers to that 4th/5th position, Spurs, robbed of the three points last night.

Why? :confused:

Our fans wanted Spurs to win last night, but we thought they'd get their traditional 4-0 hammering like they usually do there. They'll have plenty of chances to drop 3 points between now and the rest of the season, starting with their next league game against Chelsea. And as everyone knows, Spurs NEVER beat Chelsea. :D

Macy
06/01/2005, 9:21 AM
Had enough of talking about this incident, as I can list off several times United should've had goals in similar circumstances, so I'll leave this thread with a quote from Robinson....


"But I have to say I thought the tackle on Rio was inside the area, so if the referee thought it was a foul we were lucky to get away with the free-kick.
It just shows these things can work both ways, although you have to say the incident at our end was not as clear-cut as the one at theirs. We really should have scored."