Football Manager or Total Club Manager

[De Town]

Which 1 out of these 2 is better? Like in the newest released 1's because im thinking of getting 1 of them but dont know which 1 to get :(

[Éanna]

just got football manager a few days ago, and I've been sat in front of the computer ever since- its excellent

[Neish]

Does Total club manager have the LOI? I know Football manager does

[SligoRoversfan]

FM is excellent

[Aberdonian Stu]

What's the story with FM bugwise? Usually the first of a new engine from the old CM crowd were 'problematic'. I've heard the game is good but are there many problems?

[Ruairi]

There's a lot of bugs in the released build of Fm2005

the list is here

http://games.softpedia.com/get/Patch/Football-Manager-2005-Patch.shtml

download the patch while ur there

[Aberdonian Stu]

Thats a lot of problems alright. Thanks for the link.

[Dan K]

I haven't played TCM, but FM05 is fantastic. I havne't playyed a copy of it without the patch, but with the patch, I've had no problems/bugs whatsoever.

[Bluebeard]

There's a lot of bugs in the released build of Fm2005

the list is here

http://games.softpedia.com/get/Patch/Football-Manager-2005-Patch.shtml

download the patch while ur there

I had a read through the list of faults fixed (don't have the game on this computer) - does it solve the probs with the eL that I have heard of (game ending on the 22/11/05, something with the Setanta Cup, etc?)

[GavinZac]

I had a read through the list of faults fixed (don't have the game on this computer) - does it solve the probs with the eL that I have heard of (game ending on the 22/11/05, something with the Setanta Cup, etc?)

SI are always good for fixing stuff like that. I know people might say "bloody hell why did they let that happen", anyone who has worked with databases the size that SI work off will tell you, they are hard enough to manage on thier own without trying to add script on top...