Ireland v Germany & Poland

[nigel-harps1954]

Squad announcement due today. With a 37 man squad being announced, if there was ever going to be a League of Ireland player included, it'd be for a large squad like this. I don't see it happening however.

Don't expect much in the way of shocks and probably much as you were.

[DannyInvincible]

Maybe a recall for Shane Duffy? We'll see.

What time is it to be announced?

[nigel-harps1954]

What time is it to be announced?

3:30pm press conference. Assume it may be on RTE News Channel or online.

[DannyInvincible]

Squad will be refined on the 4th of October, according to John Fallon: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/martin-oneill-focus-on-players-available-for-double-header-354344.html

Only one Villa player expected to feature.

[DeLorean]

In the eyes of many neutral observers, Germany have improved and Ireland have dipped in the three-year period since the visitors pummelled their way to a 6-1 win on route to their World Cup triumph in Brazil.

We're in big trouble if we've dipped since that particular night.

[jbyrne]

We're in big trouble if we've dipped since that particular night.

we were very much weakened due to injuries that night so which Ireland team has "dipped" since?

[Closed Account]

40 Man Squad!!!



Name

Club
DOB
Caps
Goals


David Forde
(Millwall)
20/12/1979
23
0


Shay Given
(Stoke City)
20/04/1976
132
0


Keiren Westwood
(Sheffield Wednesday)
23/10/1984
18
0


Darren Randolph
(West Ham United)
12/05/1987
2
0


Rob Elliot
(Newcastle United)
30/04/1986
3
0


Richard Keogh
(Derby County)
11/08/1986
7
1


Marc Wilson
(Stoke City)
17/08/1987
23
1


Seamus Coleman
(Everton)
11/10/1988
29
0


Cyrus Christie
(Derby County)
30/09/1992
2
1


John O'Shea
(Sunderland)
30/04/1981
106
3


Alex Pearce
(Derby County)
09/11/1988
6
2


Shane Duffy
(Blackburn Rovers)
01/01/1992
1
0


Ciaran Clark
(Aston Villa)
26/09/1989
15
1


Paul McShane
(Reading)
06/01/1986
32
0


Stephen Ward
(Burnley)
20/08/1985
29
2


Greg Cunningham
(Preston North End)
31/01/1991
4
0


Robbie Brady
(Norwich City)
14/01/1992
16
3


James McCarthy
(Everton)
12/11/1990
29
0


Jeff Hendrick
(Derby County)
31/01/1992
15
0


Darron Gibson
(Everton)
25/10/1987
25
1


Harry Arter
(Bournemouth)
28/12/1989
1
0


Eunan O'Kane
(Bournemouth)
10/07/1990
0
0


Glenn Whelan
(Stoke City)
13/01/1984
66
2


Paul Green
(Rotherham United)
10/04/1983
20
1


Aiden McGeady
(Everton)
04/04/1986
77
5


James McClean
(West Bromwich Albion)
22/04/1989
31
4


Alan Judge
(Brentford)
11/11/1988
0
0


Anthony Pilkington
(Cardiff City)
06/06/1988
8
1


Stephen Quinn
(Reading)
04/04/1986
13
0


David Meyler
(Hull City)
29/05/1989
13
0


Jonathan Walters
(Stoke City)
20/09/1983
35
7


Wes Hoolahan
(Norwich City)
20/05/1982
21
2


Robbie Keane
(LA Galaxy)
08/07/1980
124
67


Shane Long
(Southampton)
22/01/1987
56
13


Daryl Murphy
(Ipswich Town)
15/03/1983
16
0


Kevin Doyle
(Colorado Rapids)
18/09/1983
61
14


Anthony Stokes
(Celtic FC)
25/07/1988
8
0


David McGoldrick
(Ipswich Town)
29/11/1987
2
0


Adam Rooney
(Aberdeen)
21/04/1988
0
0


Simon Cox
(Reading)
28/04/1987
30
4



It's too big!




David Forde






Shay Given






Keiren Westwood






Darren Randolph






Rob Elliot




Seamus Coleman
Richard Keogh

Marc Wilson
Stephen Ward


Cyrus Christie
John O'Shea

Alex Pearce
Greg Cunningham



Shane Duffy

Ciaran Clark




Paul McShane












Aiden McGeady
James McCarthy

Jeff Hendrick
Robbie Brady


Alan Judge
Darron Gibson

Harry Arter
James McClean


Anthony Pilkington
Eunan O'Kane

Glenn Whelan
Wes Hoolahan



Paul Green

Stephen Quinn




David Meyler













Jonathan Walters

Robbie Keane




Shane Long

Daryl Murphy




Kevin Doyle

Anthony Stokes




David McGoldrick

Adam Rooney




Simon Cox

[DannyInvincible]

We're in big trouble if we've dipped since that particular night.

Ability-wise, there shouldn't be much difference. Whether or not O'Neill has moved us forward tactically to a significant degree is open to debate, I suppose, although I do think there is a bit more life, energy and dynamism to the team generally now. I certainly think it would be unfair to say we've actually gone backwards from that point. How do you reconcile the claim that we've gone backwards since that point with the 1-1 away draw in Germany? I think morale was severely depleted when we lost 6-1 and a lethargy/mental tiredness had consumed the team. There's no reason for apathy this time round considering we're right back in the running for qualification again.

[IsMiseSean]

As I've said before. I really don't see the point of these announcements...

[Yard of Pace]

As I've said before. I really don't see the point of these announcements...

In terms of the amount of players?

Even if you eventually get cut, I suppose it must be nice to know that your good performances have caught the eye of the management and you're knocking at the door, so to speak.

If you didn't make it at all, you can see who your target for a place is and whinge to the papers or sit tight and wait for the senior man to retire...

[DannyInvincible]

And it lets our players know that Martin knows they're Irish.

[dr_peepee]

Christ. It's a boring fandom supporting Ireland at the moment.

[backstothewall]

It avoids having to go back to call up someone else (who then knows they were a second choice) after a withdrawal.

[IsMiseSean]

In terms of the amount of players?

Even if you eventually get cut, I suppose it must be nice to know that your good performances have caught the eye of the management and you're knocking at the door, so to speak.

If you didn't make it at all, you can see who your target for a place is and whinge to the papers or sit tight and wait for the senior man to retire...

For the likes of Judge & Rooney who've been named a few times now and have yet to join a meet up, it must be very frustrating.
I suppose it's nice to get the recognition but realistically they know they haven't a much of a chance of joining the squad in Dublin for the games unless there is a injury crisis.

[Yard of Pace]

For the likes of Judge & Rooney who've been named a few times now and have yet to join a meet up, it must be very frustrating.
I suppose it's nice to get the recognition but realistically they know they haven't a much of a chance of joining the squad in Dublin for the games unless there is a injury crisis.

Other than Steven Ireland, I'd have thought any player who isn't in the EPL would relish the international recognition. Whether you ever make the squad or not it'd look good on the CV and maybe increase your transfer value a bit.
And if I was Rooney I'd be looking at some of those other strikers and realise they're 32/33 or even 35 years old and if I can keep up my form, I should be in squads in a year's time in a group where we've a decent chance of making the World Cup.

[tricky_colour]

And it lets our players know that Martin knows they're Irish.

Or English, as the case maybe.

[TrapAPony]

And it lets our players know that Martin knows they're Irish.

He didn't know Samir Carruthers, Stephen Gleeson or Joe Mason were Irish.

[Charlie Darwin]

And it lets our players know that Martin knows they're Irish.
And still Ian Harte can't get picked.

[Wolfman]

He's retired so.

[jbyrne]

For the likes of Judge & Rooney who've been named a few times now and have yet to join a meet up, it must be very frustrating.
I suppose it's nice to get the recognition but realistically they know they haven't a much of a chance of joining the squad in Dublin for the games unless there is a injury crisis.

I thought rooney made the last squad. pretty sure he did

[IsMiseSean]

Just checked. You're right, Rooney joined the squad for the week of training but was released before the squad departed for Faro.
McShane, O'Kane, Pilkington & Pearce also joined up but were released.

[back of the net]

O'Shea dropped from Sunderlands starting 11 today against Bournemouth

[tetsujin1979]

Out with an illness according to various reports

[Closed Account]

O’Neill reduces squad for Germany and Poland games
Martin O'Neill has reduced his provisional 40-man squad to 27 for Ireland's UEFA Euro 2016 Group D qualifiers against Germany at the Aviva Stadium on Thursday, October 8, and Poland in Warsaw on Sunday, October 11.
4th Oct 2015
The revised squad includes two uncapped players, Eunan O’Kane and Alan Judge, while three players – Stephen Quinn (knee), Harry Arter (groin) and Ciaran Clark (quad) - have been ruled out because of injury.

The squad will assemble in Dublin on Sunday evening and train on Monday at the FAI’s National Training Centre on the National Sports Campus in Abbotstown. Marc Wilson will remain at Stoke City for treatment on a calf injury which will be reviewed by the Ireland medical staff early in the week.

Republic of Ireland Squad

Name-Club-Date Of Birth-Caps-Goals

David Forde (Millwall) 20/12/1979 23 0
Shay Given (Stoke City) 20/04/1976 132 0
Darren Randolph (West Ham United) 12/05/1987 2 0
Richard Keogh (Derby County) 11/08/1986 7 1
Seamus Coleman (Everton) 11/10/1988 29 0
Cyrus Christie (Derby County) 30/09/1992 2 1
John O'Shea (Sunderland) 30/04/1981 106 3
Alex Pearce (Derby County) 09/11/1988 6 2
Paul McShane (Reading) 06/01/1986 32 0

Stephen Ward (Burnley) 20/08/1985 29 2
Robbie Brady (Norwich City) 14/01/1992 16 3
Marc Wilson (Stoke City) 17/08/1987 23 1
James McCarthy (Everton) 12/11/1990 29 0
Jeff Hendrick (Derby County) 31/01/1992 15 0
Glenn Whelan (Stoke City) 13/01/1984 66 2
Aiden McGeady (Everton) 04/04/1986 77 5
James McClean (West Bromwich Albion) 22/04/1989 31 4
Alan Judge (Brentford) 11/11/1988 0 0
David Meyler (Hull City) 29/05/1989 13 0
Wes Hoolahan (Norwich City) 20/05/1982 21 2
Eunan O'Kane (Bournemouth) 10/07/1990 0 0

Robbie Keane (LA Galaxy) 08/07/1980 124 67
Shane Long (Southampton) 22/01/1987 56 13
Daryl Murphy (Ipswich Town) 15/03/1983 16 0
Jonathan Walters (Stoke City) 20/09/1983 35 7
Kevin Doyle (Colorado Rapids) 18/09/1983 61 14
David McGoldrick (Ipswich Town) 29/11/1987 2 0

[tetsujin1979]

Explains why Clark has been out of the villa team recently

[DeLorean]

Explains why he wasn't in the squad yesterday, but he's played a League Cup game for them since being dropped for Lescott.

[Olé Olé]

Really disappointed with Clark's injury- was hoping he'd be starting for these games having looked assured in the last two, albeit against weaker opposition.

Furthermore, it would have given us three centre-halves that I'd be relatively comfortable with against the two sides we're coming up against (Wilson, O'Shea and Clark). I don't like the prospect of Keogh, McShane or Pearce coming into the side in case of injury or fatigue to O'Shea or Wilson given the quality of our opposition.

The rest of the squad is as you were really but McClean and Whelan are two we could miss against Germany.

[IsMiseSean]

Coleman looks a big doubt. Would you risk him against Germany or save him for Poland?

[DeLorean]

He's not in the Everton squad at all today again so I'd say we'll be lucky if he makes either.

[DannyInvincible]

I know he hasn't played much of late, but is it a surprise that Gibson has been left out considering he is match fit again?

[Closed Account]

I know he hasn't played much of late, but is it a surprise that Gibson has been left out considering he is match fit again?
MON must have read your post and had a change of heart
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2015/1004/732376-gibson-back-in-the-irish-squad/

[Yard of Pace]

For the likes of Judge & Rooney who've been named a few times now and have yet to join a meet up, it must be very frustrating.
.

And then you actually do make the squad....

[IsMiseSean]

Eventually....

[Stuttgart88]

...when your form deserves it.

[nigel-harps1954]

O'Neill must really have something against Keiren Westwood..

Also disappointed for Shane Duffy who's been performing well this season.

[zero]

strange one on westwood alright. particularly considering forde is in and out (mainly out) of a struggling league one team.

[Stuttgart88]

Has Westwood started last couple of games for SWFC?

[DeLorean]

So Coleman and Clark out and Wilson doubtful. We could be in all sorts of sh!t for these games. Absolute joke that those three goalkeepers are preferred to Westwood. Glass is half empty I'm afraid... just praying for a Poland win in Edinburgh at this stage.

[zero]

yes, straight back in the team once he recovered from injury. played in their last 3 league games - all wins.

[DeLorean]

Has Westwood started last couple of games for SWFC?

Yeah, has started last three league games.

[paul_oshea]

Maybe said he doesn't want to come over unless starting

[Philly]

Worrying stuff regarding our defence.. If Wilson and Coleman miss out, our backup includes Pearce and Ward who have not played first team footbal lthis season from what I can see online. Very odd about Westwood too - there must be something going on in the background we don't know about. Forde has not been the first choice for Millwall in League 1, and Westwood has being playing well enough.

We'll have to just go all-out attack and prevent them from reaching our half, I guess ;)

[DeLorean]

I presume Richard Keogh will be centre back if Wilson doesn't make it. He's been playing well but this is exactly the situation we didn't want to be in against teams of high quality.

[paul_oshea]

Could he draft in Delaney?

[Kingdom]

We're fcuked.

[jbyrne]

We're fcuked.

I thought that Whelan and mcclean were big enough losses for Germany but now that coleman, Wilson and clark are probably added to that list means it will be a long long night I fear.

[DeLorean]

We're fcuked.

I agree in terms of our prospects for this week but...

We'd have jumped at this scenario a month back. Hopefully Poland can do our job for us and we might be back to full strength for the playoffs, all going well against Estonia :p

[paul_oshea]

A draw would be a miracle.

But I'm still worried with the form lewandowski is in what he could do to the likes of Keogh, with his big "i really shouldn't be here" eyes.

[Olé Olé]

Lewandowski is in devastating form at present but the service he's getting is a big factor in that.

I'd have thought Clark was our best fit for him.

[tricky_colour]

Worrying stuff regarding our defence.. If Wilson and Coleman miss out, our backup includes Pearce and Ward who have not played first team footbal lthis season from what I can see online. Very odd about Westwood too - there must be something going on in the background we don't know about. Forde has not been the first choice for Millwall in League 1, and Westwood has being playing well enough.

We'll have to just go all-out attack and prevent them from reaching our half, I guess ;)

Ha ha I was `thinking pretty much the same!

We should have called Rory Donnelly up.

Rd hot form 2 goals in each of his last 2 games.