Deal in touble?

[gael353]

:confused: ok maybe im being a pessimist but Dec 1 has come and gone and no word on our deal whats up?

[JohnD]

Hi There:

Strong rumours around that one of our Great Leaders "Eleven Players" is trying to get any much return from his "Investment" as is Possible and agraviting the situation in General to the extent of possibly Driving the new Investor from the club. If this is true it is a Disgrace. That Person is holding Limerick FC's Future to Ransom.

I am Calling for all Fans to Boycott all matches Next Season if this deal does not go through. Also We, as Supporters, should go to the Press and tell the whole story. I have already made initial contact pending the outcome of "Eleven Players" moves . That is How strongly I feel about it.

This is really serious.


JohnD :mad:

[deise deserter]

Simply I am going to say:

"I told you so."

I warned about this last year when O'Sullivan pulled the stunt with the limited company. I told the people who were willing to give it a chance that because of the structure of the limited company he could pull this sh!t.

I think it says an awful lot about the people who were involved that they would stoop so low. It is plain to see that they have zero moral fibre and absolutley no respect for the club.

They have messed up the club so badly and are now trying to grab as much as they can before they leave. An image of someone robbing a mugged corpse comes to mind....

[LFC in Exile]

I am Calling for all Fans to Boycott all matches Next Season if this deal does not go through. Also We, as Supporters, should go to the Press and tell the whole story. I have already made initial contact pending the outcome of "Eleven Players" moves.

But of course if it doesn't go through there will be no matches next season to boycott.

I agree with what you are saying - it may be time for fan power if that could help the situation. It would also show the new administration that the fans want to help them and work with them. I'm willing to help out any way I can. :ball:

I think it is good that the incoming management can see that the SC is strong and well run.

[JohnD]

Hi Lads: Open Letter to Present Owners

Have received a lot of calls this morning from any disgruntled LFC fans. We are LFC at the end of the Day and no one person is bigger than LFC.

Even Big Damien is fuming abut this :mad: and he will seek Counsel advice if this goes belly up. After all We voted not for a Limited company but for a Members club at that infamous meeting last year. Our Club has been Hijacked by "Eleven Men" aka the Moose and we will not stand idly by if that person does not do the decent thing and SELL now.

On behalf of the Supporters Club I urge the incumbent Guardians of the club to go now and stop squeezing the life from it. We will take any necessary action as we see fit if we do not get progress on this matter. There will be no Club next year if this deal goes through so Sell up now and let the new Owners take over before it's too late.

All the best

JohnD

[LFC in Exile]

Even Big Damien is fuming abut this :mad: and he will seek Counsel advice if this goes belly up.

No pun intended? :)

[trevor]

I am Calling for all Fans to Boycott all matches Next Season if this deal does not go through.



how stupid. you call yourself a supporter?

[jebus]

If it falls thru i wonder will we go back to Mike cap in hand and beg him to come back?

[joeSoap]

how stupid. you call yourself a supporter?
I personally would agree with John D in his call for boycott if this takeover doesn't materialise because if it doesn't, then it will be down to people who will still hold the reins at the club, and it has already been proven that these individuals care for nobody but themselves.They have proven that by their actions in this instance.Why should anyone support them. :mad:

[deise deserter]

trevor:
A boycott of an organisation is done when you don't agree with the methods in which the organisation is run. If you re-read the post John asks for fans to not go to the matches. Therefore he is not renouncing Limerick FC he is making a gesture to show his dissatisfaction with the club's operation.

It is not stupid to that.

What is stupid is coming in with less than ten posts and calling other fans and established members of this board stupid when from your post you clearly didn't understand the post.

I am also considering taking the same action. I sat through this season in the hope that better things are coming around the corner. If MOS continues in the actions he is taking, there will be no future for the club.

No-one on this board or anyone who went to Pike this season wants to see a season like that again. The players themselves, I'm sure are more than happy that it's over. If this deal goes through we should have some high quality players coming to the team next year. How many will turn up if next year is a re-run of last season?

[trevor]

trevor:
A boycott of an organisation is done when you don't agree with the methods in which the organisation is run. If you re-read the post John asks for fans to not go to the matches. Therefore he is not renouncing Limerick FC he is making a gesture to show his dissatisfaction with the club's operation.

It is not stupid to that.

What is stupid is coming in with less than ten posts and calling other fans and established members of this board stupid when from your post you clearly didn't understand the post.

I am also considering taking the same action. I sat through this season in the hope that better things are coming around the corner. If MOS continues in the actions he is taking, there will be no future for the club.

No-one on this board or anyone who went to Pike this season wants to see a season like that again. The players themselves, I'm sure are more than happy that it's over. If this deal goes through we should have some high quality players coming to the team next year. How many will turn up if next year is a re-run of last season?

that makes no difference what so ever. what it adds up to is less supporters at the matches. do you think that will change anything? it hasnt for the past few years has it?

how many of you is there? (the supporters club - and with that i mean the diehards) about 10 of you? thats how many will commit to your boycott. and by the looks of it even your numbers dwindled this year.

just cos i havent posted often doesnt mean i havent been watching what you all have been saying. besides i prefer to go to the matches and imput into the club in a more positive way that posting nonsense on the web.

[Nempton]

We all know that Michael O'Sullivan is the problem and I had hoped that he might be gone when I heard what was happening with the club over the weekend. I want him out and I'm willing to do whatever it takes, so if its a boycott then so be it. John, if there is anything I can do then please let me know. We should definitely go public with this, Michael does hate bad publicity. If contacting the press, its important to talk to them on the phone because if you email them I do know that they won't always read them straight away especially with the national press.

When refering back to the limited company, remember that all three said that they were not in this to make a profit when we questioned them. All money would go towards a new ground for the club. Some of us didn't believe Michael because as we have all learned he is two-faced. The man though obviously has no shame and as the unelected chairman clearly has his own agenda at heart rather than Limerick FC's best interest.

Trevor, no offence but what you posted is nonsense. The belief that because there are only a few of us that we are incapable of invoking change, making the public/press aware of what is going on and putting the spotlight on the club, is naive on your part. In recent times, with the formation of the supporters club, fans are taking a more active interest in the club. While you may be a passive supporter only interested in watching the matches, which is perfectly fine, there are some of us who are concerned with the affairs of the club. We have started to put the committee under scrutiny and question their actions, prior to the start of last season the then Mayor of Limerick, Dick Sadlier, had to mediate between the committee and the supporters club to resolve issues that had become public. We have put them under pressure and while we have not had the success we have desired, momentum is gathering and I think we may succeed in removing the likes of Michael O'Sullivan. I know that for example, such as Mike Kerley, that people are at different ends of the spectrum, but one thing that we are all in agreement is the importance of the new investors. If Michael O'Sullivan is going to put that in jeopardy for his own greed then we have no choice but to take action by any means necessary to prevent this. If the club continues under his leadership it will cease to exist and you won't have any matches to watch. Perhaps it is time for you to not just watch what is happening on the field but to take an interest in what is happening off the field as well.

[deise deserter]

Good post Nempton. Agree with all points there.

[Lim till i die]

Lads can someone please explain the ins and outs of this situation to me Im honestly really confused about the whole thing i just cant see the logic in Michael O sullivan holding out for more cash or whatever??? I mean technically unless sold to a new investor his share of the club is worthless is it not because they havent a hope of being allowed in the league next year with the current situation. I mean why try so hard to hold on to a worthless asset? it just doesn't make business sense or add up to me???

[sadloserkid]

What is stupid is coming in with less than ten posts and calling other fans and established members of this board stupid when from your post you clearly didn't understand the post.

It's totally irrelevant how many posts the guy has made Deise. By that logic anything that I say on this forum has to be accepted as gospel because I have far more posts than any other Limerick fan. Surely a more welcoming and less patronising attitude to newcomers should be employed both at Pike and here on the message board?

That said I think that any boycott will end in failure because I don't think that all the prominent fans will commit to it. It won't be a problem for me however, I leave on January 28th (booked my flight today) and will effectively be boycotting this season for the most part anyway. :)

[gael353]

Oh thank god i thought hed never be gone! Now ill be able to put some real talent into my car for away games (if the deal goes true) if not ill be following you over as i wont have a team to support!

[deise deserter]

SLK: Spot on. I was being condescending. I hope I was as condescending as that guy was idiotic. And I have always taken your posts as gospel.... ;)

[anto1208]

Lads can someone please explain the ins and outs of this situation to me Im honestly really confused about the whole thing i just cant see the logic in Michael O sullivan holding out for more cash or whatever??? I mean technically unless sold to a new investor his share of the club is worthless is it not because they havent a hope of being allowed in the league next year with the current situation. I mean why try so hard to hold on to a worthless asset? it just doesn't make business sense or add up to me???

this is not directed directly at you lim till i die but i used your comment to highlight some of the untruths being bandied about .


so called suporters should know that if it had not been for mos taking over and saving the club ye would nt have any club to support at all !!

[Terry]

holding out for more cash you are having a laugh you should try to know what your talking about before spouting off this rubbish . the deal is being delayed over the purchase of hogan park which the new guys are stalling over !!!. for the club to compete next year it has to be licenced to some one on the 13th of dec ,so the new guys have ask mos to stay on untill the deal has gone through !!.

all this running down of mos is sickening to me when you consider he isnt a multi milionare that bought the club , after fr joe left it in ruins with no pitch no money etc .( mos got the stand in hogan park all the work the floodlights all as just a supporter ) fr joe ruined the club and ran .

mos was asked to take over the club he has worked tirlessly for that club never taking a penny from it organising sponserchip deals getting a pitch helping to bring players like j sugrue s o mahony jalmard kusten etc .

when players had to be paid and the club had no money where did it come from ?? mos back pocket , he has invested thousands of pounds into the club .for a ordinary family man that has to work a full time job and try to run a club on his own simply because no one else would !!

so called suporters should know that if it had not been for mos taking over and saving the club ye would nt have any club to support at all !!


Are you MOS ?? :confused: :)

Only kidding, fair play to the guy if he did all that, BUT the question is has the club moved on anywhere after fr. joe or is it in a worst off position now??

[JohnD]

It must be "Eleven Men" :) Nobody could post like that unlike it was the real deal!!! Welcome to Foot.ie boy !!

[fc hammer]

Well said anto1208,what have the "11 muppets" to say to that???

[anto1208]

Are you MOS ?? :confused: :)

Only kidding, fair play to the guy if he did all that, BUT the question is has the club moved on anywhere after fr. joe or is it in a worst off position now??
ha ha no !!
well it has it was going out of business and now its about to be invested in big time .. its not like he was holding out for the cash there was literally no one else that wanted it !!

[anto1208]

Well said anto1208,what have the "11 muppets" to say to that???

re: eleven players
i keep seeing that on here but have never heard of them other wise what are they and what do they want ???

[trevor]

[QUOTE=deise deserter]that guy was idiotic. QUOTE]

nice one. cant wait to join up with the supporters club next year. we'll have another thing in common!

[sadloserkid]

Well said anto1208,what have the "11 muppets" to say to that???

Michael O'Sullivan certainly tried hard to make an impact as Chairman and I believe he always acted with the best interests of the club at heart. He was also always quite nice to me, gave me lifts to and from games and whatever.

HOWEVER

While Michael O'Sullivan stabilised and probably even saved the club he also seemed incapable of moving the club forward. We are the only club in our division without a full first-division license having to settle for a provisional one. There wasn't enough effort made to secure a license last year and with the deadline for this years around the corner I have to ask whether the new administration have much more done (aside from Hogan Park being up in the air for whatever reasons.)

While I believe that Michael O'Sullivan certainly donated money to Limerick FC I doubt that he has any documented proof of this. That I'm afraid, is nodody's fault but his own. If proper club accounts had been maintained there wouldn't be any discussion here, he could ask back for whatever amount he'd invested. Though on a sidebar, at the time that the money was given to the club was there any mention of it being a loan? :confused:

I have an amount of sympathy for him actually, I felt he showed an amount of character in resigning over the blatant nepotism that caused Mike Kerley's sacking. I should also point out that I have great difficulty in taking the new consortium's word without a pinch of salt so I wouldn't neccessarily accept the stories that MOS is trying to derail the deal without allowing for a degree of exaggeration. However if it's even 10% true I'm very, very disappointed in him and it's really wrong if he's going to allow a personal, petty grudge to hamper the best chance the club's been presented with in years. I should also add that cynicism towards those running the club is something that I developed during the O'Sullivan era as there was no dialogue at all with fans.

Overall I think that history is going to be harsher on O'Sullivan than he deserves. He came in at a time when the club was arguably at it's lowest ebb and to be fair to the man he kept us afloat (albeit barely) but in the following couple of seasons there was no progression whatsoever. I don't think that Michael O'Sullivan would ever have led Limerick up the league table. Didn't have the resources for starters and was strangely reluctant to open up the doors to strangers. He came in, he tried his very best and now I think it's time for him to stand gracefully to one side and allow the newcomers an opportunity to fulfill their promises.

[anto1208]

also i forgot to put in my first post the main reason for the deal being held up is the sacking of mike kerly

[anto1208]

Michael O'Sullivan certainly tried hard to make an impact as Chairman and I believe he always acted with the best interests of the club at heart. He was also always quite nice to me, gave me lifts to and from games and whatever.

HOWEVER

While Michael O'Sullivan stabilised and probably even saved the club he also seemed incapable of moving the club forward. We are the only club in our division without a full first-division license having to settle for a provisional one. There wasn't enough effort made to secure a license last year and with the deadline for this years around the corner I have to ask whether the new administration have much more done (aside from Hogan Park being up in the air for whatever reasons.)

While I believe that Michael O'Sullivan certainly donated money to Limerick FC I doubt that he has any documented proof of this. That I'm afraid, is nodody's fault but his own. If proper club accounts had been maintained there wouldn't be any discussion here, he could ask back for whatever amount he'd invested. Though on a sidebar, at the time that the money was given to the club was there any mention of it being a loan? :confused:

I have an amount of sympathy for him actually, I felt he showed an amount of character in resigning over the blatant nepotism that caused Mike Kerley's sacking. I should also point out that I have great difficulty in taking the new consortium's word without a pinch of salt so I wouldn't neccessarily accept the stories that MOS is trying to derail the deal without allowing for a degree of exaggeration. However if it's even 10% true I'm very, very disappointed in him and it's really wrong if he's going to allow a personal, petty grudge to hamper the best chance the club's been presented with in years. I should also add that cynicism towards those running the club is something that I developed during the O'Sullivan era as there was no dialogue at all with fans.

Overall I think that history is going to be harsher on O'Sullivan than he deserves. He came in at a time when the club was arguably at it's lowest ebb and to be fair to the man he kept us afloat (albeit barely) but in the following couple of seasons there was no progression whatsoever. I don't think that Michael O'Sullivan would ever have led Limerick up the league table. Didn't have the resources for starters and was strangely reluctant to open up the doors to strangers. He came in, he tried his very best and now I think it's time for him to stand gracefully to one side and allow the newcomers an opportunity to fulfill their promises.

well put at least some people know what they are on about but dont forget limerick did win a cup and got to promotion play offs with no money . what are the clubs main income s . sponsership and gate money as we know the gate money did nt even cover one players wages !!. the sponsership deal was the best lim have received , which was engineered by mos .

he also knows it cant move foward after him hence bringing in the new investors !

i dont want to sound like his pr guy here but just felt he was getting an unduley hard time from folks that dont know about the club ..

the deal isnt held up by him holding the new guys to ransom , its just take over bids take time , he is not holding out for money or trying to hold onto the club every one either coming or going is working for the best interest of the club


and lastly he offered his resignation from the club but the players manager did nt want that . he resigned but said he will stay on untill new guys come in this took nearly 2 years !!

[deise deserter]

Anto:

If you are MOS, welcome, it would be the first time there has been real contact with the fans. Second, while it is good to have another opinion on the boards you must put MOS's actions in the context of the actions he undertook in last years off season.

Last season against all the public's wishes MOS covertly set up a Limited Company and issued himself with shares for "loans" he had made to the club. The word "loans" is in inverted commas as we disputed the fact and amount and requested the club accounts for previous years to prove his claims. This was requested numerous times through the SC but was never provided.

By setting Limerick FC up in this form MOS effectively owned Limerick FC. As you know if you can claim legal ownership to an asset then it is yours to sell. As soon as this happened last year I predicted that this was a possibility. Although MOS has shown himself to be untrustworthy, even I didn't think that he would stoop as low as we are being told by those taking power. According to them he is holding the club to ransom, demanding more and more cash without the paper evidence to back up these claims (much like last off-season!).

Add to this the hassle he is causing with Fr Joe and Mike Kerley and we can see this man's true charachter has come out. The only way for him to avoid the debacle he has caused is to take the money he can PROVE he invested and simply disappear.

As for the Mike Kerley situation: Mike hasn't a leg to stand on. There is no such thing as a company honouring an oral contract with a now ex-director of the club. I like the guy and do think he was hard done by, but the simple matter of fact is that he didn't cover himself. It's as crazy as having an accident and trying to claim on your VHI without signing up for it.

[anto1208]

Anto:

If you are MOS, welcome, it would be the first time there has been real contact with the fans. Second, while it is good to have another opinion on the boards you must put MOS's actions in the context of the actions he undertook in last years off season.

Last season against all the public's wishes MOS covertly set up a Limited Company and issued himself with shares for "loans" he had made to the club. The word "loans" is in inverted commas as we disputed the fact and amount and requested the club accounts for previous years to prove his claims. This was requested numerous times through the SC but was never provided.

By setting Limerick FC up in this form MOS effectively owned Limerick FC. As you know if you can claim legal ownership to an asset then it is yours to sell. As soon as this happened last year I predicted that this was a possibility. Although MOS has shown himself to be untrustworthy, even I didn't think that he would stoop as low as we are being told by those taking power. According to them he is holding the club to ransom, demanding more and more cash without the paper evidence to back up these claims (much like last off-season!).

Add to this the hassle he is causing with Fr Joe and Mike Kerley and we can see this man's true charachter has come out. The only way for him to avoid the debacle he has caused is to take the money he can PROVE he invested and simply disappear.

As for the Mike Kerley situation: Mike hasn't a leg to stand on. There is no such thing as a company honouring an oral contract with a now ex-director of the club. I like the guy and do think he was hard done by, but the simple matter of fact is that he didn't cover himself. It's as crazy as having an accident and trying to claim on your VHI without signing up for it.


im not on here to have a go at any one i just feel too many people on here are claiming stuff to be true that isnt and the other side should also be put foward .

1 point about first contact with fans . why did you not walk up to the gate where he stood week in week out working on the gate , you could have talked to him there !!

2 the loans was a mistake all that should have been taken better care of and there for he has to take a hit on any thing he cant prove

3 ltd company such as manchester united !!! with no money or investors coming in this was seen as a chance to raise 100,000 for the club with the 3 who have invested over the years all getting 10 % .to own it you need 50.01 %
mos holds 10 % not a major owner !!!. covertly made ltd company WHAT there was announcements flyers etc etc sent around just coz you dont see it does nt mean it does nt exist . i was more than well aware of it !!

the hassle with fr joe and mike you speak of i have no idea what you are on about there fr joe left the club on its knees and ran .
mike getting sacked was by the new guys not mos .

mike has a contract with limerick fc not with mos , its this contract with limerick fc that (new guy) has breached by sacking him .

and the deal isnt held up by mos holding out for more money - fact

[gael353]

sorry anto but i cant take anything you say without any bit of doubt. where have you been for the last 3/4 years when MOS chairmanship was also called into question, his self appointment for example? and your only a new signing but it is an open website so keep posting away its good to have balance but i think its a bit rich u arriving on just now.

[joeSoap]

mike has a contract with limerick fc not with mos , its this contract with limerick fc that drew (new guy) has breached by sacking him .

and the deal isnt held up by mos holding out for more money - fact

Mike has no contract with Limerick FC, plain and simple. He either refused to sign it, because of the financial predicament the club was in, so he could have an easy get-out should a better offer come along, or he simply forgot. Either way, no signed deal, end of story.No contract means he hasn't a leg to stand on, and whoever is giving him his advice :rolleyes: is really doing him a disservice. He needs to move on, and forget about it.

[gael353]

yes his advice is very, very poor indeed. Anto you couldnt find out who is giving him said advice could you? Mikes a decent guy and id hate to see him being led up the garden path.

[gael353]

[QUOTE=anto1208]im not on here to have a go at any one i just feel too many people on here are claiming stuff to be true that isnt and the other side should also be put foward .

1 point about first contact with fans . why did you not walk up to the gate where he stood week in week out working on the gate , you could have talked to him there !!
Ive often ahd chats with MOS at the gate! Anto have you seen groundhog day?
2 the loans was a mistake all that should have been taken better care of and there for he has to take a hit on any thing he cant prove
Totally agree, loans...i mean will Minney O'Halloran ever see his loans to his beloved club back in his hands again?

3 ltd company such as manchester united !!! with no money or investors coming in this was seen as a chance to raise 100,000 for the club with the 3 who have invested over the years all getting 10 % .to own it you need 50.01 %
mos holds 10 % not a major owner !!!. covertly made ltd company WHAT there was announcements flyers etc etc sent around just coz you dont see it does nt mean it does nt exist . i was more than well aware of it !!
The supporters at a meeting with the then committee voted 99.9% in favour of a members club. Three weeks later the new Ltd company JRMSPORTS Ltd was set up without anyones knowledge.

the hassle with fr joe and mike you speak of i have no idea what you are on about there fr joe left the club on its knees and ran .
mike getting sacked was by the new guys not mos .
Fr Joe has been involved in this takeover deal, hill celtic, southill connection etc all due to be apeased untill someone rang him asking him to stall on signing the deal! any guesses?
mike has a contract with limerick fc not with mos , its this contract with limerick fc that drew (new guy) has breached by sacking him .

and the deal isnt held up by mos holding out for more money - fact[/QUOTE
And the question will still be asked are you MOS or his mate TOB Or JOS...no ur not him cos in fairness you can spell. ill get a comp friend of mine to put a trace on ur ip point just for self assurance.

[deise deserter]

Anto:

I hate to say this as bluntly but your posts are incredibly badly informed.

MOS was spoken to practically every week and he lied and avoided giving any details of anything surrounding the club every week.

The Limited Company was done covertly. The launch you speak of took place over a month after it was set up without anyone's knowledge. It was only through the SC that it was brought to the media's attention.

I am not patronising you by saying this but, I think you would be best served by going back through older threads to see the extent of the deception that took place.

Rest assured that the media are well aware of MOS's actions, both present and past, and they have plans should he scuttle the current deal.

[gael353]

Well said anto1208,what have the "11 muppets" to say to that???

oh please hammer dont repeat dont make a fool of yourself on this! if u dont know who the "11 muppets" are please dont make comment on them.

[sadloserkid]

This thread is starting to slide off-topic in places, let's drop the whole '11 players/muppets angle (though it's a reference to a MOS quote right?) and stay focused on the discussion at hand please.

Danke.

slk

[anto1208]

yes his advice is very, very poor indeed. Anto you couldnt find out who is giving him said advice could you? Mikes a decent guy and id hate to see him being led up the garden path.


could nt agree more and seeing as he is such a nice guy and that he did a good job and did nt jump ship like noc maybe ye suporters should get behind him a bit .


i dont know what advice he has been given but the law is the law oral contracts are legally binding . in saying this i have no idea if mike is fighting it or has allready gone , its just laws of the land apply to football aswell .

[anto1208]

This thread is starting to slide off-topic in places, let's drop the whole '11 players/muppets angle (though it's a reference to a MOS quote right?) and stay focused on the discussion at hand please.

Danke.

slk

its just ive never heard this before dont know who said it who it was said to or who it was about

[anto1208]

sorry anto but i cant take anything you say without any bit of doubt. where have you been for the last 3/4 years when MOS chairmanship was also called into question, his self appointment for example? and your only a new signing but it is an open website so keep posting away its good to have balance but i think its a bit rich u arriving on just now.

he was nt self apointed how do you go from being a fan to being chairman by apointing your self .
again fr joe ran when the club was in ruins the members then elected mos to the job people like n. hanley ralf mc. you know who i mean .

i actually just found this site but ive been to lim games from when johny welsh and albert finnan where playing , when big sam was manager through dave o connell , noel king etc etc

[sadloserkid]

its just ive never heard this before dont know who said it who it was said to or who it was about

Ok, I'll explain it to you and then we can let it go.

A couple of weeks before the start of the train wreck of the season we've just endured a well-known fan expressed some concern to Michael O'Sullivan that the club had yet to formally sign any players.

O'Sullivan responded by saying 'Sure you'll find 11 players anywhere' or words to that effect. These words, it's fair to say, came back to haunt him as the season lurched from one crisis to another.

[anto1208]

Anto:

I hate to say this as bluntly but your posts are incredibly badly informed.

MOS was spoken to practically every week and he lied and avoided giving any details of anything surrounding the club every week.

The Limited Company was done covertly. The launch you speak of took place over a month after it was set up without anyone's knowledge. It was only through the SC that it was brought to the media's attention.

I am not patronising you by saying this but, I think you would be best served by going back through older threads to see the extent of the deception that took place.

Rest assured that the media are well aware of MOS's actions, both present and past, and they have plans should he scuttle the current deal.


practically every club is a ltd. mos offered his resignation a long time ago the club has no money , changing to a ltd and raising 70,000 is good : fact .this worked for clubs like united celtic etc etc ..

NO ONE ELSE WANTED THE CLUB THIS IS WHY HE IS STILL AT THE CLUB .
if some one else had come in he would be gone a long time ago .

some of the stuff you say on here is just bad and small minded mos isnt a big businness man or even an acompleshed chairman , he took a job no one else would touch tried his best , not allways doing what was right but every one makes mistakes .

in case you have nt noticed he has been trying to bring in investors such as the one s now with out him limerick would be long gone

[deise deserter]

Anto: If you are replying to previous posts please do all your replying in one response - you're in danger of spamming up this thread.

Let me set this out in plain uncomplicated terms for you:

1. MOS has proven himself untrustworthy.
2. His actions as outlined by the new investors are stopping the deal going through.
3. If he cares about the club as you claim he should be happy to take what he can prove he is owed and leave. His actions are deplorable. He is trying his best to wring as much money out of Limerick FC as possible.

His actions are wrong. There is no debate about this. You are either lacking all the facts or are choosing to ignore them. It is funny that all your posts are about boosting up MOS's image and absolutely none are about the betterment of the club...

[anto1208]

im not here to get into a slagging match with any one i have posted other posts asking yere opinion on next year but got no responces this was the second post i looked at and saw he was getting a hard time .
in my opinion he has done the best he can , in the clubs best interest is he goes now ( which is happening ) and new guys that have money come in .


all i wanted to do is to put foward my point of view and to try and balance a debate out a small bit ,because basically people on here were being nasty to a guy that does nt deserve it , sure he has made mistake s propibly did things all wrong ill admit that but thats what happens when you put a normal family man in charge of a football club !! .

of coarse i dont know all the fact any more than you do . no club in the world tells its fans whats going on its called business sence .

as for the betterment of the club , it does nt matter what i say what you say the guys with the money will do what they want !!

but i will ask one last question if mos was holding it all up why did the new guy ask him to stay on for an extra period to help out with licencing problems ??

how about this the deal is going through its taking a small bit longer than thought but both parties are happy but its just things dont happen over night .

the sports fund investing in my club has taken from august till now and yet still isnt completed . things like this take time

now i feel that is a much more constructive way to look at things and try to improve the club rather than slagging people off

[anto1208]

Ok, I'll explain it to you and then we can let it go.

A couple of weeks before the start of the train wreck of the season we've just endured a well-known fan expressed some concern to Michael O'Sullivan that the club had yet to formally sign any players.

O'Sullivan responded by saying 'Sure you'll find 11 players anywhere' or words to that effect. These words, it's fair to say, came back to haunt him as the season lurched from one crisis to another.


oh right , thats not the smartest thing to say , but they couldnt offer contracts to player with out the licence that was held up by fifa . same thing will happen this year no matter who is in charge

[deise deserter]

Sorry, stop spamming up the board like this.

You are not standing up for a good guy - get that into your head. All he wants is money (that according to the new investors he isn't owed) and he doesn't care how he f*cks up the club getting it.

I'm all for different opinions, but show some sense and stop posting the uniformed and innane cr@p you have been posting.

[anto1208]

calm down and explain your self the new guys have told you personnally that hhe is holding them to ransom over money ??

who told you , name names ?
how much money does he want ?
why have the new guys asked him to stay on ?


i want the new guys in asap i want mos out just the same , sorry im only on this site a few days and im not sure how to use it or all the rule and etitic s yet ! if some one posts derected at me i reply how is that a bad thing ?

[gael353]

moderator get rid of him i found out who he is, if he wants to discuss matters let him arrange a meeting with us.

[gael353]

calm down and explain your self the new guys have told you personnally that hhe is holding them to ransom over money ??

who told you , name names ?
how much money does he want ?
why have the new guys asked him to stay on ?


i want the new guys in asap i want mos out just the same , sorry im only on this site a few days and im not sure how to use it or all the rule and etitic s yet ! if some one posts derected at me i reply how is that a bad thing ?


sob sniff this is tearful!

[anto1208]

well if you did go to the trouble of tracking me down instead of just asking me who i am well done . you may be very close but just out a small bit try one generation down !!. and why should that stop me having an opinion after suporting the club for about 15 years through all the players managers chairman etc .

but now you know me are you going to be man enough to say you you are or keep hiding behind a nick name ??

[gael353]

look you havent been to a game in awile and im not holding that against you, but if you had been or been in the loop with regard supporters/committee(both sides) and the new consortium, you might stop posting up such comments untill you know the whole story. Its a free country keep posting and everyone who goes to the games and who is a reg poster on here knowns who i am. want a jersey? pm me. :)