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seanfhear
16/09/2025, 10:20 AM
Was it Keith Andrews who said that in Euro 2012, something like 'It was Iniesta, Xavi and Alonso against me and Whelo.'
Trap refused to budge his tactics.
I suppose Trap didn't want to go to hard on, Iniesta, Xavi, and Alonzo !

elatedscum
16/09/2025, 3:36 PM
Was it Keith Andrews who said that in Euro 2012, something like 'It was Iniesta, Xavi and Alonso against me and Whelo.'
Trap refused to budge his tactics.

Along with Busquets holding and David Silva playing wide - 5 absolutely cracking midfielders packing the midfield. Then Santi Cazorla, Cesc Fabregas and Javi Martinez coming off the bench. Unbelievable depth that Spanish midfield from 2008 to 2012.

Fixer82
18/09/2025, 1:13 PM
Along with Busquets holding and David Silva playing wide - 5 absolutely cracking midfielders packing the midfield. Then Santi Cazorla, Cesc Fabregas and Javi Martinez coming off the bench. Unbelievable depth that Spanish midfield from 2008 to 2012.

True but we had Paul Green

John83
19/09/2025, 1:21 AM
Paul Green would improve our current team. He was a beast in the Championship at his peak.

rebelmusic
19/09/2025, 10:35 AM
Paul Green would improve our current team. He was a beast in the Championship at his peak.

Do you remember how we all felt when Trap was picking Green...and now we'd jump at the chance of having him...that really hit home for me how far we've fallen just now

seanfhear
19/09/2025, 12:11 PM
Do you remember how we all felt when Trap was picking Green...and now we'd jump at the chance of having him...that really hit home for me how far we've fallen just nowGreener Grass.

Eirambler
19/09/2025, 2:08 PM
Honestly I think we have at least four midfielders currently who are as good as, or in some cases better than Green was. That Green was part of a team that could actually hold it's own with mid ranked European sides shows that it's the setup that's the problem, not the players.

elatedscum
19/09/2025, 4:34 PM
I really didn't rate Green. Seemed like a decent skin but he I think he's significantly below Alan Browne for example and Alan Browne is probably not good enough to make the squad at present.

The real outrage from that Euros is that Wes Hoolahan, the best player in a Premier League team (Norwich) couldn't make the squad (and Trap never even went to see him), while the likes of Paul Green, Paul McShane etc. made it

Razors left peg
19/09/2025, 5:41 PM
I really didn't rate Green. Seemed like a decent skin but he I think he's significantly below Alan Browne for example and Alan Browne is probably not good enough to make the squad at present.

The real outrage from that Euros is that Wes Hoolahan, the best player in a Premier League team (Norwich) couldn't make the squad (and Trap never even went to see him), while the likes of Paul Green, Paul McShane etc. made it

Yeah Id agree with that, Green was poor player. He is not someone we should look back on with hindsight and say we maybe didnt appreciate him enough, unlike Glenn Whelan for example.

Fixer82
23/09/2025, 11:22 AM
I really didn't rate Green. Seemed like a decent skin but he I think he's significantly below Alan Browne for example and Alan Browne is probably not good enough to make the squad at present.

The real outrage from that Euros is that Wes Hoolahan, the best player in a Premier League team (Norwich) couldn't make the squad (and Trap never even went to see him), while the likes of Paul Green, Paul McShane etc. made it

I thought Green was a good squad player, good backup to Whelan and Andrews in CM who would work his socks off for you if called upon.
McShane was a bit of a liability alright.
Trap not picking Hoolahan and Reid was completely because he just didn't like that kind of player. His CMs needed to be like the above mentioned. Grafters and tacklers. McGeady was put to the wing and could play that role (also played a good defensive part in the draw away to Russia, tracking back a lot).
But Reid and Hoolahan couldn't be made into wingers.

As I've said before, watch the look on Trap's face when Hoolahan came on and scored against Poland. It was not part of his plan.

Buckett
23/09/2025, 3:47 PM
Green is still playing at the age of 42 according to his Wiki page! Has he retired from international football?

pineapple stu
23/09/2025, 5:10 PM
"On 9 November 2022, Green announced his retirement from football"

No?

tetsujin1979
23/09/2025, 5:14 PM
I think you can retire and still play non league, but not get paid as you will be getting your footballers pension

pineapple stu
23/09/2025, 5:40 PM
Is he playing non-league though?

I don't think his wiki mentions it?

Buckett
23/09/2025, 6:36 PM
Towards the top of the page where all his clubs are listed. Signed for some team in 2022 but no end date. I must admit, I didn't read much more of it

pineapple stu
23/09/2025, 6:53 PM
Workshop? That just means he joined and left in 2022 - if he was still there it'd say "2022-"

Same as with Ipswich and Crewe

Buckett
23/09/2025, 6:57 PM
So, you're saying he's unavailable to make an international comeback?

pineapple stu
23/09/2025, 7:11 PM
Paul Scholes retired and came back - why not Paul Green?

Never say never!

Eirambler
30/12/2025, 9:29 PM
Confirmed ACL - disaster.

irishfan86
31/12/2025, 3:02 AM
Massive loss. Offers best protection for back four of our midfielders. Someone is gonnna have to step up big time in March.

Fixer82
31/12/2025, 7:35 AM
Who do we have that can play that role? Molumby? Collins?

pineapple stu
31/12/2025, 7:56 AM
Coventry I guess?

Cullen has often been overwhelming at international level, but he's still the best we have there. That's a big loss

Eirambler
31/12/2025, 11:04 AM
Molumby, Smallbone or Coventry. Or some combination of them. Don't think it's a role Jason Knight can play, he's more of a runner, we need a sitter to replace Cullen. Coventry the most like for like replacement, but clearly not as good as Cullen.

pineapple stu
31/12/2025, 12:00 PM
Probably so, yeah. But Smallbone hasn't played since October, Molumby is in and out of the WBA team and Coventry has only one (sub) cap. None are really stand-out options.

liamoo11
31/12/2025, 1:57 PM
Probably so, yeah. But Smallbone hasn't played since October, Molumby is in and out of the WBA team and Coventry has only one (sub) cap. None are really stand-out options.

Poor josh. Hopefully he has a long contract on good money at Burnley..

Colbert Report
01/01/2026, 10:39 PM
Cullen is on 55 grand a week sterling according to Capology, with his contract running until the end of June 2027. The club hold and option for a one year extension.

liamoo11
02/01/2026, 7:06 AM
Cullen is on 55 grand a week sterling according to Capology, with his contract running until the end of June 2027. The club hold and option for a one year extension.

Very good. No need for him to rush his rehab so to try and get a new contract.

Fixer82
02/01/2026, 12:34 PM
Cullen is on 55 grand a week sterling according to Capology, with his contract running until the end of June 2027. The club hold and option for a one year extension.

He’s a club stalwart. I imagine they’ll stick by him in his recovery

rebelmusic
02/01/2026, 5:02 PM
I wouldn't rule out Lawal to take the role. He's really coming into form now and has experience in the role. I'd expect HH will put Knight in there though realistically

Eirambler
02/01/2026, 5:56 PM
I don't think Knight suits that position. He's better playing a bit further forward and then dropping back to help out when out of possession, rather than as an out and out defensive midfielder - he generally is ineffective for Ireland in that role. But the emergence of Azaz probably reduces the scope for him to play further up the field - which means he's not really a good starting option right now.