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wandererfan
18/12/2014, 10:54 AM
We all go to 6 pm mass, devout catholic's us lot in Bray;)
we love our mass . but the point of contention is that fans as a whole were not consulted . no survey was carried out as is claimed , in bray friday is league of ireland night to the fans and the new sugar daddy is making wholesale changes and supposedly investing heavily into the squad
Charlie Darwin
18/12/2014, 11:09 AM
Sympathise with the lack of consultation but I don't understand people being precious about the day. It's not as if you're being moved to a day with no regular tradition of football. When you've lost 1/4 of an already subsistence-level fanbase in the space of two years, it's hard to argue the merit of Friday being "League of Ireland night" anyway.
Hulsey
18/12/2014, 11:10 AM
The issue seems to be that a lot of the lads either have their own matches or work on saturdays. If you work in retail it's not a given that you have saturdays off, and its a lot more difficult to get a saturday off that a friday. Hopefully it shouldn't be too much of a problem to knock off at 5 and make the kick off for me but a lot don't seem to be that lucky. Really hope the kick off time spikes attendances but I'd have my doubts
Charlie Darwin
18/12/2014, 11:15 AM
Well people work on Fridays too, a lot more of them in fact. How do you know there isn't 200+ people who can't go because they don't get home from work until late on Friday? Again, sympathise if a lot of Bray fans are students or whatever who can only work on Fridays, but the 5.45 I would guess is partly designed to ensure people who have their own matches are finished.
wandererfan
18/12/2014, 11:26 AM
Well people work on Fridays too, a lot more of them in fact. How do you know there isn't 200+ people who can't go because they don't get home from work until late on Friday? Again, sympathise if a lot of Bray fans are students or whatever who can only work on Fridays, but the 5.45 I would guess is partly designed to ensure people who have their own matches are finished.
lads with games have said they would be lucky to be home for half 5 never mind a bray game . The amount of people who are saying they won't be renewing season tickets is worrying . I know it's not alot of people but the vast majority of people who go to bray games would be season ticket holders . I can't see a drastic increase . at the end of the day it's whats on the pitch that effects attendance not the kick off . I use dundalk as the example . 300 only a few seasons ago watched their last home game v bray . now 2.500 plus every week, that's not due to the kick off time it's due to the quality produced on the pitch
DannyInvincible
18/12/2014, 11:38 AM
Why weren't Bray supporters consulted over something that seems quite a risky move for the club? Is there the means to survey past season ticket holders/regulars on this in order to get a broader idea of support/discontent rather than anecdotal word? If this is to prove seriously detrimental to attendances, is it too late to switch back with fixtures officially scheduled?
Charlie Darwin
18/12/2014, 11:43 AM
lads with games have said they would be lucky to be home for half 5 never mind a bray game . The amount of people who are saying they won't be renewing season tickets is worrying . I know it's not alot of people but the vast majority of people who go to bray games would be season ticket holders . I can't see a drastic increase . at the end of the day it's whats on the pitch that effects attendance not the kick off . I use dundalk as the example . 300 only a few seasons ago watched their last home game v bray . now 2.500 plus every week, that's not due to the kick off time it's due to the quality produced on the pitch
Are you saying you can't see a drastic increase or you think the number will fall?
wandererfan
18/12/2014, 11:43 AM
Why weren't Bray supporters consulted over something that seems quite a risky move for the club? Is there the means to survey past season ticket holders/regulars on this in order to get a broader idea of support/discontent rather than anecdotal word? If this is to prove seriously detrimental to attendances, is it too late to switch back with fixtures officially scheduled?
I don't think it is , they just have to apply to the fai . In years gone by the club has rang season ticket holders etc informing of the price etc for the coming season , this year none of that . There was a meeting in which the supporters club was represented but the majority of the sc is against the switch but the 2 reps said nothing when it was brought up. The club claim research and survey has been carried out but anyone I talk to hasnt heard of anyone who was surveyed
wandererfan
18/12/2014, 11:44 AM
Are you saying you can't see a drastic increase or you think the number will fall?
I can see the attendance falling which I don't want for the club but they've done this themselves
Charlie Darwin
18/12/2014, 11:52 AM
I can see the attendance falling which I don't want for the club but they've done this themselves
Will it fall faster than it's fell the last three years?
davidatrb
18/12/2014, 12:04 PM
Any one notice that Shamrock Rovers play home twice versus all of Pats, Dundalk and Cork? And they have an extra home game overall with 17 but Pats and Cork have only 16?
I think it has to be said that they got the easiest draw of the top 4 teams.
Longfordian
18/12/2014, 12:12 PM
It's just a reverse of last year in that regard as far I know. It's not random.
Sheridan
18/12/2014, 12:12 PM
Hehe, "draw".
davidatrb
18/12/2014, 12:17 PM
It's just a reverse of last year in that regard as far I know. It's not random.
Well, however it worked out that way. It turned out nice for Shamrock Rovers.
Charlie Darwin
18/12/2014, 12:21 PM
Was great craic last year. A season ticket got you Croly's science of soccer with doubles against Bray, UCD, Limerick and Derry. Serious bang for your buck.
wandererfan
18/12/2014, 12:23 PM
Will it fall faster than it's fell the last three years?
remains to be seen , only the first game will tell how much it varies
Hulsey
18/12/2014, 12:52 PM
Well people work on Fridays too, a lot more of them in fact. How do you know there isn't 200+ people who can't go because they don't get home from work until late on Friday? Again, sympathise if a lot of Bray fans are students or whatever who can only work on Fridays, but the 5.45 I would guess is partly designed to ensure people who have their own matches are finished.
Yes a more people work fridays but its more likely those working will be finished up by the original 7:45 kick off. To change the day to try drum up an increased attendance is a good idea which I'm all for. I think even a 7pm kick off on the saturday would have suited a lot more. I'll more than happily eat humble pie on this, but for me 5:45 isn't a great time
pineapple stu
18/12/2014, 1:39 PM
Given it was recently announced that the Premiership is adding Friday night games from 2016, I wonder will other clubs follow Bray and move away from Fridays?
wandererfan
18/12/2014, 2:10 PM
Given it was recently announced that the Premiership is adding Friday night games from 2016, I wonder will other clubs follow Bray and move away from Fridays?
to be honest i dont see what difference it will make, for the friday night games id your looking at mid to lower table sides being on sky. the 5:45 clashes with the sky 5:30 with often see's big enough sides take the slot
mypost
18/12/2014, 6:34 PM
I always thought league fixtures were computer generated. Or is that just in the more sophisticated Premiership?
Every two years, fixtures are reversed from the previous year. Most of them in reverse order. The promoted clubs take the fixture list of a relegated club.
This year as expected, last year's fixtures from Game 1-7 were reversed in reverse order. As it was the 7th game last year in Richmond, Rovers had to play Pats first this year in Tallaght, and are. As usual Games 8-9 were reversed in sequence. Games 10-11 were reversed in reverse order. So whoever you played 10th last year, you play 11th this year at the other venue.
Longford took UCD's 2014 fixture list. Next year, a brand new fixture list will be drawn up.
Professor K
20/12/2014, 12:05 PM
Any one notice that Shamrock Rovers play home twice versus all of Pats, Dundalk and Cork? And they have an extra home game overall with 17 but Pats and Cork have only 16?
I think it has to be said that they got the easiest draw of the top 4 teams.
In 2012, 2013 and 2014, of the teams that ended up in the top 3 each season, Rovers had an extra home game in 2 instances out of 9. Not only is the reversal of fixtures a welcome relief but a bit of "luck" in that Dundalk, Cork and Pat's remain the strong teams, instead of say, Sligo, is needed for it to matter too.
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