Margaret Hussan Dead [Archive]

Closed Account 2

17/11/2004, 3:16 AM

Seems to be true (BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4017515.stm))

Sad, sad news… I think we all feared this might happen as soon as the first news of her capture broke, but harboured hopes, however slim, that she might survive.

thecorner

17/11/2004, 6:53 AM

shows how hard these "men" really are :rolleyes:

carrickharp

17/11/2004, 7:12 AM

RIP Margaret, heartless scum who take the life of a woman who spent 30 years looking after their sick and poor, at this stage nothing could shock me the world and morals have changed so much this 3-4 years.

Éanna

17/11/2004, 8:37 AM

was listening to coverage on 5live last night- apparently even Al Zarqawi said she should be released as she was a friend of the Iraqi people.

Dublin12

17/11/2004, 10:23 AM

I heard on the news yesterday that the Marines found a body of a western female with no arms,no legs and the face disfigured,could this be her?,RIP Margaret

Robinski

17/11/2004, 11:31 AM

I heard on the news yesterday that the Marines found a body of a western female with no arms,no legs and the face disfigured,could this be her?,RIP Margaret

No, that wasn't her. That was a blonde woman who is yet to be identified.

Closed Account 2

17/11/2004, 12:56 PM

^ yeah I heard on the Radio they think that might be the Polish woman who went missing a couple of weeks back. Pretty disgusting stuff, mutilating someone like that.

sligoman

17/11/2004, 3:24 PM

A Mass has been held in County Kerry this morning for Irish-born aid worker Margaret Hassan.Her apparent death at the hands of Iraqi kidnappers has drawn condemnation from around the world.

Mrs Hassan was remembered in a special Mass in the Roman Catholic church in Kenmare in the southwest of Ireland.

The 59-year-old's sister Geraldine Riney lives in the area.

Local curate Father Edmund Corridan said Mrs Hassan was an "indescribable loss".

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/041117/140/f6s7d.html

Why do they call her British?, She was Irish for Christ's sake

liam88

17/11/2004, 6:16 PM

RIP Margaret

DOn't know what the scum hoped to gain by it....certainly hasn't done 'their' people ANY favours :(

jofyisgod

17/11/2004, 6:17 PM

She was actually out there to help them ffs. Spineless c*nts.

RIP

tricky_colour

17/11/2004, 6:18 PM

Truely appalling news, such a pointless and mindless act, I wonder what
the people who killed her expect to gain from her death, certaintly not
support for their 'cause'.
Apparently an Arab media outlet did a poll which had 70% against and 30%
in favour (or whatever) of her killing.

My own personal view is that the TV footage of American soldiers shooting
wounded Iraqi fighters who apparently didn't pose a threat probably
sealed her fate.

Still a terrible crime to kill someone who devoted her life to caring for
the Iraqi people, these people would probably have no qualms shooting
there own mothers.

Sickening.

jofyisgod

17/11/2004, 6:24 PM

My own personal view is that the TV footage of American soldiers shooting
wounded Iraqi fighters who apparently didn't pose a threat probably
sealed her fate.

Don't believe everything you see on TV. Could well be right, though, To be honest, these guys are not the type who are ever going to listen to reasoning. How could they bring themselves to do it. It sickens me right to my stomach, it really does...

Éanna

17/11/2004, 6:26 PM

My own personal view is that the TV footage of American soldiers shooting
wounded Iraqi fighters who apparently didn't pose a threat probably
sealed her fate.
could be. certainly won't have helped. althought the fact that al zarqawi said she should be freed points to it being a criminal gang. there was a great comment from an iraqi interviewed on th news a while ago. he said " these people call themselves the opposition. where were they when saddam was in charge."

tricky_colour

17/11/2004, 6:45 PM

could be. certainly won't have helped. althought the fact that al zarqawi said she should be freed points to it being a criminal gang. there was a great comment from an iraqi interviewed on th news a while ago. he said " these people call themselves the opposition. where were they when saddam was in charge."

Well presumable they were either working for Saddam's regime or in one
of his jails (which he had emptied when the country was invaded).

I wondered whether it was Al Zarqawi who held her all the time?
They may have realised it would be bad publicity to harm here and
so made out they were another group. Probably pretty unlikely considering,
but it was a thought which crossed my mind.
However they did not demand money rather the troops to be pulled out etc..

I still cannot see what they think they have gained from this it just
portrays them as less than human.
More support form sub-humans no doubt?

DolansWaistcoat

17/11/2004, 6:53 PM

I know it's fcuk all consolation to her or her family now but at least they shot here and made it quick because i've had the seen clips of the beheadings of Bigley and the american soldiers and it was horrific,supposedly was forty minutes before the 'insurgents' finished with them,sick.

No western looking person is safe in Iraq now.I wouldn't go there for all the money in the world.

Éanna

17/11/2004, 7:01 PM

I know it's fcuk all consolation to her or her family now but at least they shot here and made it quick because i've had the seen clips of the beheadings of Bigley and the american soldiers and it was horrific,supposedly was forty minutes before the 'insurgents' finished with them,sick.
true.

as for what tricky_colour said- I think if the group had wanted to release her, they could have found a way.

tricky_colour

17/11/2004, 7:05 PM

Its a shame some people thought they would be safe because they were
Irish, these people willl kill anyone.
I can understand how they could kill someone working for the
security forces but not a charity worker, thats just incomprehensible.

tricky_colour

17/11/2004, 7:08 PM

true.

as for what tricky_colour said- I think if the group had wanted to release her, they could have found a way.

But is not what I said, I don't know where you got that impression from.
They didn't want to release her, I don't know where you got that idea from.

(Typical manager?)

eoinh

17/11/2004, 7:11 PM

Its disgusting what happened to her. I think two things sealed her fate - (1) she was a British citizen and (2) apparently she was being held captive in Fallujah which was being attacked at the time. The screening of the injured iraqi being shot dead by an american soldier didnt help. Also, if reports out of Fallujah are true apparently its just the tip of the iceberg. Five seven live reported mass executions by the americans, the dumping of bodies into the Euphrates and the indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas with phosporus and cluster bombs.

Éanna

17/11/2004, 7:13 PM

But is not what I said, I don't know where you got that impression from.
They didn't want to release her, I don't know where you got that idea from.

sorry, I didn't put that very well. you said

I wondered whether it was Al Zarqawi who held her all the time?
They may have realised it would be bad publicity to harm here and
so made out they were another group. Probably pretty unlikely considering,
but it was a thought which crossed my mind.
However they did not demand money rather the troops to be pulled out etc..

and what I meant to say was, that if they had realised it was publicity, they could have released her, rather than killing her if they wanted to.

sligoman

17/11/2004, 7:27 PM

supposedly was forty minutes before the 'insurgents' finished with them,sick.

Maybe they wanted to punish him for escaping first! Still not right obviously

Metrostars

17/11/2004, 7:28 PM

Éanna

17/11/2004, 7:34 PM

30% wanting her dead is shockingly high
absolutely. can't figure how any right-thinking individual would think like that. i guess war messes with peoples heads, and right and wrong become confused. but still, 30% :confused: :mad:

tricky_colour

18/11/2004, 1:09 AM

30% wanting her dead is shockingly high

I am not sure if that is how you should read it, if I recall correctly (after
seeing it for a second time) 70% condemed it, thats doesn't mean
the other 30% condoned it (necessarilly) I mean after all the real
'bad gay' Al Zarqawi said she should be freed ( although that may have
been a form of propaganda, although I now doubt it).

I wonder how many Americans would condem the shooting of the
defenseless wounded in a poll? Not very many I would imagine.

Or take an example from Northern Ireland, where the word regret is used
rather than condemnation.

Having said that it was a truely evil act which ever way you look at it,
and I hope I do not sound as if I am excusing it, it is utterly
inexcusable vile act comitted by what must truely be the scum of the
earth.

I hope the guys who did it don't have any martyrdom missions
planned cos they will be going straight to hell when they die, there
is no doubt about that.

tricky_colour

18/11/2004, 1:21 AM

sorry, I didn't put that very well. you said

and what I meant to say was, that if they had realised it was publicity, they could have released her, rather than killing her if they wanted to.

Yes I see your point, I guess Al Zarqawi did not kidnap her (as I conjected)
anyway.

I suspect those who did killed her were mentally ill criminals released
from Saddams jails, I don't know if that would make anyone feel any
better about it.

It does seem clear from the earlier videos that she realised she was
in the hands of some really sick people.

It is very sad indeed. I hope the people who did it are now dead, it
is hard to imagine anyone who would harbour such people.

eoinh

18/11/2004, 6:28 AM

More misguided heartless fools did this,amongst many in the region.

R.I.P.Margaret H.

The proportion of misguided heartless fools is about the same evrywhere ....... sadly! :(

DolansWaistcoat

18/11/2004, 8:34 AM

Maybe they wanted to punish him for escaping first! Still not right obviously

I don't believe he escaped at all,I think they made it up so they could kill him anyway.

I think it was the same length of time for the beheading of the americans as Bigley.

liam88

18/11/2004, 9:50 AM

Its a shame some people thought they would be safe because they were
Irish, these people willl kill anyone.

If I recall an Irish reporter and cameraman have already been killed.....making Margaret the 3rd or 4th if you include Ken Bigley to be executed.....plus any Irishmen fighting in the Royal Irish Gaurds who were killed (not sure if any have been) :(

sligoman

18/11/2004, 12:47 PM

I don't believe he escaped at all,I think they made it up so they could kill him anyway.

They dont need to make up a reason to kill anyone.If they want to do it, they will.

Closed Account 2

18/11/2004, 7:10 PM

I don't believe he escaped at all,I think they made it up so they could kill him anyway.

I think it was the same length of time for the beheading of the americans as Bigley.

I think what is alledged to have happend was someone (a less violent individual) in or associated with the kidnapping gang let/set him free on "their watch" so to speak, but he was then found by either some local criminals who handed him back over to the gang or by the rest of the gang itself and thats when they killed him. I seem to remember reading the paper on last month, local Iraqi's had said that had happened. Although I doubt if we'll ever know what exactly happened.

If I recall an Irish reporter and cameraman have already been killed.....making Margaret the 3rd or 4th if you include Ken Bigley to be executed.....plus any Irishmen fighting in the Royal Irish Gaurds who were killed (not sure if any have been) :(

I think at least one, a Dubliner from what I recall, has been killed in action... I think another might have died earlier on in a traffic accident at their base in Southern Iraq.