Under 19 Running Costs

[Lim till i die]

In an interview on the local radio over the weekend Pat O'Sullivan said that it costs 100 thousand (ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND!) to field the U-19s team.

Just wondering what other clubs experience is because this strikes me as a very Limericky figure.

[Mr A]

Not a hope we spend anything like that on our team but it's certainly expensive. If I had to guess (and it's no more than that) it'd be more like a quarter of that figure.

[Charlie Darwin]

It depends on how much the club choose to spend, and also on how seriously you take Pat O'Sullivan's exaggerations.

The baseline cost is pretty low as none of the players and coaches are paid at most clubs. Limerick have targeted their youth structure and spend a lot on coaches and preparation, whereas other clubs are just scratching together a team, so I'm certain they'd pay a lot more than the league average.

[delboyderis]

Thats crazy money if its true.better off spending some of that on the senior team.the under 19's havent provided much to the senior team that is any good in the past few seasons.

[nigel-harps1954]

Nowhere near 100k, that's absolute madness. Considering it costed Shamrock Rovers B 100k to play in the First Division, I'd be very surprised if any u-19 team are paying anything close to that.

[Trainee]

Nowhere near 100k, that's absolute madness. Considering it costed Shamrock Rovers B 100k to play in the First Division, I'd be very surprised if any u-19 team are paying anything close to that.

Cost for home games ( based on GUFC a few years back) were about €1000 a game.
Home games
Rent 250
Refs etc 150
Phyiso 100
food for players 300
other 100

Away games
Bus 500
Phyisio 100
food 300

Outside matchday match day their were other expenses eg manager wages, training ground costs, insurance etc so it would all add up & its not to long before a club would have spent 100k running U19s

[Trainee]

Considering it costed Shamrock Rovers B 100k to play in the First Division,

It must have cost rovers €1,500 to €2,000 a home game to have it in tallaght, eg ref costs, rents cost, stewdart costs etc, Rovers were paying players so it would have cost closer to 200k, It was costing salthill close to 200k so their is now way rovers B were spending less than salthill.

eg if a club is paying a squad of 16 players €100 a week over 40 weeks, wage bill be €64,000 alone, add in all other costs minium 200k to run a first squad if players are being paid

[Mr A]

How were Salthill spending that when they own their own ground and training facilities and were amateur? That just seems as mental a figure as Limerick's.

[Sam_Heggy]

I doubt if there would be anywhere near that in costs.

Say a manager/coach would get in the region of €7,000 for the season.
Buses would cost roughly €5000
Food €3000 - and that's at a push. Not hard to have lads get a bite to eat at their own house before arriving a the pitch for a match.
Refs about €2000
club physio wouldn't be much more than €1000 for the season

All in all, add on a few other bits and pieces and you'd be at a push to exceed €20,000.

[nigel-harps1954]

Cost for home games ( based on GUFC a few years back) were about €1000 a game.
Home games
Rent 250
Refs etc 150
Phyiso 100
food for players 300
other 100

Away games
Bus 500
Phyisio 100
food 300

Outside matchday match day their were other expenses eg manager wages, training ground costs, insurance etc so it would all add up & its not to long before a club would have spent 100k running U19s


Maybe it's a good thing GUST didn't get full control of Galway FC then....

[Mr A]

Better again that Salthill didn't get it!

[White Horse]

I heard Shamrock Rovers have the fourth highest budget.

[wonder88]

I remember Pat Devlin saying on radio about 4/5 year ago that it cost Bray 50k to put out an u-19 team. Or maybe it was 25k, my memory sometimes not that good. But you must take note of the location of Bray, so transport cost would be less than Limerick or Galway for example. Devlin said Bray only had an u-19 team because it was a condition of the licence to be in LoI.

[Trainee]

How were Salthill spending that when they own their own ground and training facilities and were amateur? That just seems as mental a figure as Limerick's.

Salthill were paying players expenses, paying players €100 a week over 40 weeks & a manager/assistant manager a couple hundred would cost 80-90k over 40 week season

[tiktok]

The fact that Limerick U19 train three nights a week in rented facilities for ten months of the year would be a big costs that a lot of the other clubs mentioned wouldn't have to factor in. An AstroTurf pitch for an hour could set you back up to €100 (€200 per session, €600 per week, €24000 per annum) of course, they also have to rent a pitch to play matches.

People tend to underestimate costs e.g. the figure of €1000 per annum for physio for a season is comical.

I've seen it mentioned that Cork City's costs about €50k per annum, and they train at their own base in Bishopstown.

[gufcfan]

Refs etc 150
Seriously? Only 150? That doesn't sound right.

[nigel-harps1954]

People tend to underestimate costs e.g. the figure of €1000 per annum for physio for a season is comical.


What's so comical about that? Most clubs just hire a local physio to come in for the day with the under-19s.

[Charlie Darwin]

€500 a game for bus travel though?

[nigel-harps1954]

€500 a game for bus travel though?

Would have said that was cheap enough.

[Jofspring]

Some of the costs Limerick could possibly have:

3 refs a home game.
Physio at trainings and matches would set you back a lot more than €1,000 over a season.
Training gear, jerseys and training equipment.
Astro/training pitch: Limerick use LIT Astro which is €50 a section but they may get the whole pitch for around €75 at a guess.
Insurance.
Association Fees.
Rental of a pitch for matches.
Rental of a pitch for friendlies.
Buses for away games.
From memory Pat O Sullivan mentioned sports scientists, nutritionists, coaches.
Gym usage for sessions.
Food before or after away games.
Fines for cards.

Those are just things off the top of my head and I would imagine add up fairly quickly to a lot of money.

[Charlie Darwin]

From Ballybofey maybe. From Galway, no chance, especially if you have a season-long association.

[tiktok]

What's so comical about that? Most clubs just hire a local physio to come in for the day with the under-19s.

Harps will play 9 home games this season minimum (excludes friendlies and cup games).
That's say 27 hours of a Chartered Physio's time for €1000, or an hourly rate of €37.

That seems cheap to me, before you factor in that the above assumes they never bring a physio to training or away games, and none of their players will get injured requiring attention by a physio for an entire season. If Harps are getting that level of support for €1000, fair play to them.

[razor]

and they train at their own base in Bishopstown.It may not be in the U19 budget but we pay rent on this.

[the 12 th man]

Seriously? Only 150? That doesn't sound right.


If it's elite U19's throw in Linos and a 4th Official and you're up to over 300.

[tiktok]

It may not be in the U19 budget but we pay rent on this.

Of course, didn't mean to imply otherwise.

[Trainee]

Seriously? Only 150? That doesn't sound right.

Ref costs about are all local based (same refs that ref in junior league). Ref cost around €80, 2 linesmen cost about €35 each & I dont think their is a 4th offical in U 19 league

[optimus]

The fact that Limerick U19 train three nights a week in rented facilities for ten months of the year would be a big costs that a lot of the other clubs mentioned wouldn't have to factor in. An AstroTurf pitch for an hour could set you back up to €100 (€200 per session, €600 per week, €24000 per annum) of course, they also have to rent a pitch to play matches.

People tend to underestimate costs e.g. the figure of €1000 per annum for physio for a season is comical.

I've seen it mentioned that Cork City's costs about €50k per annum, and they train at their own base in Bishopstown.
not from sept to march they don't .. astro rental