Midweek fixtures. 30/9/14

[nigel-harps1954]

Harps have travelled with almost a whole squad of reserves tonight. Could be an absolute walkover in Wexford. All 5 of the senior registered under 19 squad has travelled as far as I'm aware.

Not the ideal preparation for a cup semi final, but sure, this is the FAI after all, who have also organised the Inter-pros between the four provinces on the same weekend. Insane planning.

[nigel-harps1954]

HT scores:

Bray 1-0 Derry
St Pats 2-0 Bohs
Rovers 2-0 UCD

Wexford 3-0 Harps

[wonder88]

The Wexford v Harps fixture tonight; one example of why the Loi is in such poor state. Pass time there was 1 division league and if possible a regional feeder league. Teams should only play each other twice in the league each year.

[Longfordian]

Harps are playing mostly kids apparently. Saving themselves for the semi understandably. They can do what they like after last Friday anyway ;)

[Mr A]

Actually the team tonight had more front line players than I would have expected. Not that it helped.

[D24Saint]

Form will have little bearing on Sunday, anything can happen in Cup football.Ive seen us turn over a few so called bigger teams in Europe in my day so there is a game to be played, looking forward to it.

[Longfordian]

Actually the team tonight had more front line players than I would have expected. Not that it helped.

Did it? Fair enough so. Just saw someone saying ye were sending the kids out earlier so had a flutter on Wexford -2 which worked out well in the end!

[nigel-harps1954]

Of the starting team that played against Shels, which is expected to be close to our first 11 against Pat's, there was three players. The average age of the starting team was 21. There was two 16 year olds and an 18 year old on the bench, and of the five, the oldest player on the bench was only 23.

There wasn't much in the way of experience about Harps.

[PartySaint]

Of the starting team that played against Shels, which is expected to be close to our first 11 against Pat's, there was three players. The average age of the starting team was 21. There was two 16 year olds and an 18 year old on the bench, and of the five, the oldest player on the bench was only 23.

There wasn't much in the way of experience about Harps.

A nice rest for Harps so, we played our strongest 11 available tonight bar Brennan and O'Brien who were both on the bench but had knocks, Brennan came on for Fahey. Sean Hoare went off with a knock so hopefully he is available on Sunday otherwise Ken Oman will play and Harps will win at least 5-0.

Nice of Bohs to play like a mid table first division side to give us an idea what we will face on Sunday.

[Acornvilla]

I was at the match myself, Pats had it easy, could have had 5, but your keeper made a right balls of that Bohs goal!

[gufcfan]

Pass time there was 1 division league

Taking the league around the back and shooting it would be a better idea than doing that. At least it would kill it quicker.

[Charlie Darwin]

Taking the league around the back and shooting it would be a better idea than doing that. At least it would kill it quicker.
From what I understand, most of the clubs realise a single-tier league might become necessary in future, but ultimately it's not their decision.

Very poor attendance in Tallaght tonight, although it's to be expected with the malaise around the club at the moment as well as the weather, schoolnight, etc. UCD were rank bad, which is frustrating because there are moments when you can see how talented some of those players are. I'd take Benson for Rovers tomorrow, and I'd hope Fenlon was thinking the same thing watching him out there. It could easily have been 10-0 Rovers, but in the end UCD hit the post twice which, had things been slightly different, could have made for a very difficult finish (like the first game here between the sides). First time all season Rovers have scored more than two goals at home in the league - that is a horrendous stat.

[gufcfan]

I would be surprised if it wasn't against UEFA regulations to only have one tier. Even Gibraltar has two divisions.

Nobody ever seems to back up the argument for a single tier LOI with a good argument.

[Charlie Darwin]

I'm not going to make an argument for a single tier because to be honest I don't have any set position myself as I can see merits and demerits on both sides.

As far as I know, UEFA's requirement is for at least two tiers allowing for some sort of merit-based promotion and relegation, but that doesn't necessarily mean two closed leagues like we have now. Look at it this way, we have 19 clubs (plus a B team) right now. Any single-tier league, to be properly functional, would probably need to be 16 teams, which would leave at least three sides in junior football and outside the league.

Potentially, if you tinkered with the junior structure, you could have it so the bottom-placed LOI teams would be faced with the peril of relegation and the top junior teams would have the carrot of promotion, should they meet the criteria to join the league (a premier licence would be a requirement, you'd imagine). That kind of set-up might be amenable to UEFA as long as you could show it's not a completely closed system.

[JC_GUFC]

I think the problem is many of the top non league teams have no desire to enter League of Ireland. If you look at the state of Salthill Devon now after their brief spell in the league you can see why.
I don't know why Tralee and Carlow weren't let in when they expressed an interest.

[pineapple stu]

From what I understand, most of the clubs realise a single-tier league might become necessary in future, but ultimately it's not their decision.

Very poor attendance in Tallaght tonight, although it's to be expected with the malaise around the club at the moment as well as the weather, schoolnight, etc. UCD were rank bad, which is frustrating because there are moments when you can see how talented some of those players are. I'd take Benson for Rovers tomorrow, and I'd hope Fenlon was thinking the same thing watching him out there. It could easily have been 10-0 Rovers, but in the end UCD hit the post twice which, had things been slightly different, could have made for a very difficult finish (like the first game here between the sides). First time all season Rovers have scored more than two goals at home in the league - that is a horrendous stat.
Funny - I was thinking if I was a Rovers fan, I'd have been annoyed at that performance last night. We were there for the taking - couldn't keep hold of the ball at all - yet Rovers "only" scored three. One of those was a cracker, one a lovely inswinging cross and one a penalty. I guess with all Rovers' possession, I'd have expected them to create more. Granted, O'Donnell made a couple of top class saves, but still.

We're going down this year, or else next year for sure.

[nigel-harps1954]

I would be surprised if it wasn't against UEFA regulations to only have one tier. Even Gibraltar has two divisions.

Nobody ever seems to back up the argument for a single tier LOI with a good argument.

Because clubs are dying at an alarming rate over the past ten years, and maybe a bit of stability could be brought to one division?

Like CD, I see merits to both keeping two divisions and joining both, but the reality is, the problem lies much deeper than just League of Ireland and absolutely anything that is attemted with the league, can only be a short term fix.

[desaintsno.12]

We put some stunning moves together against Bohs last night. The move of the night didnt come off for Forrester, but was great to watch. When Forrester is on form like that, it really is worth the entrance fee alone. We are playing with the swagger of last year now and look so threatening with every attack............. but still suspect at the back

[Nailor]

Funny - I was thinking if I was a Rovers fan, I'd have been annoyed at that performance last night. We were there for the taking - couldn't keep hold of the ball at all - yet Rovers "only" scored three. One of those was a cracker, one a lovely inswinging cross and one a penalty. I guess with all Rovers' possession, I'd have expected them to create more. Granted, O'Donnell made a couple of top class saves, but still.

We're going down this year, or else next year for sure.

Any Idea why Callaghan did an impression of Phil Brown at half time ?

[Roo69]

Bray v Derry was a decent game. Was quite surprised that Derry played a pretty much full strength team though.

We dominated pretty much from start to finish, how we didn't pick up all 3 points i'll never know. Poor Jake Kelly missed chance after chance, well Doherty pulled off a couple of fantastic saves and the woodwork came to Derry's rescue as well. 2 points dropped for Bray. Actually gave them a nil all hammering earlier in the season to so should have an extra 4 points on the board and be safe.

[pineapple stu]

Any Idea why Callaghan did an impression of Phil Brown at half time ?
I meant to ask that after alright. I have no idea what that was about.

I think it was our coach rather than Aaron himself who was in the dugout with everyone.

[NeverFeltBetter]

https://vine.co/v/OmJZ0AWmIUt

Wow.

[Charlie Darwin]

Funny - I was thinking if I was a Rovers fan, I'd have been annoyed at that performance last night. We were there for the taking - couldn't keep hold of the ball at all - yet Rovers "only" scored three. One of those was a cracker, one a lovely inswinging cross and one a penalty. I guess with all Rovers' possession, I'd have expected them to create more. Granted, O'Donnell made a couple of top class saves, but still.

We're going down this year, or else next year for sure.
Ah, it wasn't the most clinical performance but the game was over after 10 minutes. When you have lads taking shots from 40 yards, you can tell they're just looking to stay fit for Sunday. And O'Donnell had no right to make those saves, Brennan missed badly when he was through, Kilduff was awful as usual and should have scored, some very questionable offside calls, etc.

[desaintsno.12]

whats Brennan been like this year CD ? Obviously we have the best Brennan, but how has your inferior, uglier version been doing ?

[Charlie Darwin]

whats Brennan been like this year CD ? Obviously we have the best Brennan, but how has your inferior, uglier version been doing ?
He was one of our best players for the first few months when we were scrapping out 1-0 wins, but then he had a couple of injuries and his form's been patchy since. Fenlon's mainly been using him as a substitute for one of the wide men late on to inject a bit of pace and directness into the game because he can be a bit of sieve defensively.

[pineapple stu]

Ah, it wasn't the most clinical performance but the game was over after 10 minutes. When you have lads taking shots from 40 yards, you can tell they're just looking to stay fit for Sunday. And O'Donnell had no right to make those saves, Brennan missed badly when he was through, Kilduff was awful as usual and should have scored, some very questionable offside calls, etc.
Yeah, take your point on the nature of the game alright; it just would have frustrated me to see the team so superior yet with relatively little to show for it at the end of 90 minutes.

O'Donnell's been making those saves since he joined in fairness. It's what we pay him to do!

[Charlie Darwin]

Yeah, take your point on the nature of the game alright; it just would have frustrated me to see the team so superior yet with relatively little to show for it at the end of 90 minutes.

O'Donnell's been making those saves since he joined in fairness. It's what we pay him to do!
Well "relatively little" is three points. You don't get any more points for winning 6-0. Teams just play differently at 2-0 up than they do at 0-0, especially if they have a more important game coming up. They'd already seen Cregg go off injured and didn't want to risk anything themselves. We are, also, just plain useless at scoring goals.

[pineapple stu]

We are, also, just plain useless at scoring goals.
That's the thing. Last night was basically target practice. It would have been encouraging for ye to have had a go at becoming better scoring goals.

Obviously can't argue that Rovers didn't need to play last night, and that we were lucky to get the nil (even if we did hit the post twice)

[Charlie Darwin]

That's the thing. Last night was basically target practice. It would have been encouraging for ye to have had a go at becoming better scoring goals.

Obviously can't argue that Rovers didn't need to play last night, and that we were lucky to get the nil (even if we did hit the post twice)
We did have a bit of a go, to be fair. We must have had about 20 shots. It was just one of those days where everybody thought they could score (even Boccer was hitting them from 25 yards) except for our actual striker. Agreed it might have benefit the team more if they'd put the individual stuff to a side and tried to cut UCD to shreds, but that may not have worked either.

[Sam_Heggy]

Bray v Derry was a decent game. Was quite surprised that Derry played a pretty much full strength team though.

We dominated pretty much from start to finish, how we didn't pick up all 3 points i'll never know. Poor Jake Kelly missed chance after chance, well Doherty pulled off a couple of fantastic saves and the woodwork came to Derry's rescue as well. 2 points dropped for Bray. Actually gave them a nil all hammering earlier in the season to so should have an extra 4 points on the board and be safe.

Cork must be delighted after Derry playing a weakened team before the Drogs game.

[Acornvilla]

Took some photos at the Pats - Bohs game if anyone'd like a look. Richmond is a grand little place.

https://www.behance.net/gallery/20192371/Richmond-Park-under-lights

https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/136000755/disp/8d4642d28e99a1b46d090d29eba9001f.jpg

[desaintsno.12]

Took some photos at the Pats - Bohs game if anyone'd like a look. Richmond is a grand little place.

https://www.behance.net/gallery/20192371/Richmond-Park-under-lights

https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/136000755/disp/8d4642d28e99a1b46d090d29eba9001f.jpg

ah you were the hipster photographer at the match taking photos of anything but the match :p
Checked the photos out last week, fair play to you, they are very impressive, fair play lad